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TheTofuShop
Aug 28, 2009

Bucnasti posted:

You can't sell drops on the Flea because they're not FIR, so you're only going to get the Therapist price for it, and unless you get really lucky the flea price will never really go below that.

As mentioned by Haki earlier, if you right click > required search, you can find barters people are looking to be fulfilled by keytools, which can be paid with non fir items and can get you more value than vendor price usually.

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idiotsavant
Jun 4, 2000
Man it’s some real FIR flea Stockholm syndrome poo poo when I’m happy to get a graphics card for two buttcoins in barter

Oysters Autobio
Mar 13, 2017
Yeah I also got a keytool in a drop but already have a docs case. Since the docs case can hold more variety of stuff (keys, Intel, money) is there even a real purpose for the keytool for me other than stash space or should I barter it in flea/ sell to therapist?

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Bucnasti posted:

You can't sell drops on the Flea because they're not FIR, so you're only going to get the Therapist price for it, and unless you get really lucky the flea price will never really go below that.

This isnt really true.

You can right click items without the "find in raid" enchantment and click "required search" then use them to fulfill barter orders.

You won’t get as much as you would for an enchanted key bar you could list for cash, but you can get more than the vendor would give.

idiotsavant
Jun 4, 2000

Oysters Autobio posted:

Yeah I also got a keytool in a drop but already have a docs case. Since the docs case can hold more variety of stuff (keys, Intel, money) is there even a real purpose for the keytool for me other than stash space or should I barter it in flea/ sell to therapist?

If you’re keeping keys to useful/valuable spots as you find them you will definitely end up with more than a docs case worth. Unless you desperately need the value now, it’s worth holding on to if only for the stash space it’ll save.

Mesadoram
Nov 4, 2009

Serious Business
Can I replace the front sight of the ADAR / raise up the scope with level 1 traders?

I do love the ADAR but holy poo poo is that front sight annoying.

Lemon
May 22, 2003

https://escapefromtarkov.gamepedia.com/MK12_Low_Profile_Gas_Block

This is available from Mechanic LL1, probably best used in conjunction with a scope/sight.

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


I find the default FAL sight worthless.

LGD
Sep 25, 2004

FYI the 7.62 AKs got a (badly needed) recoil buff

I'm working so can't really test, but on first appearance this isn't a sea-change level adjustment but hopefully does render the various AKs somewhat more controllable at non-point-blank distances

SSJ_naruto_2003
Oct 12, 2012



Gabriel S. posted:

I find the default FAL sight worthless.

I think most people can agree on that one

1001 Arabian dicks
Sep 16, 2013

EVE ONLINE IS MY ENTIRE PERSONALITY BECAUSE IM A FRIENDLESS SEMILITERATE LOSER WHO WILL PEDANTICALLY DEMAND PROOF FOR BASIC THINGS LIKE GRAVITY OR THE EXISTENCE OF SELF. ASK ME ABOUT CHEATING AT TARKOV BECAUSE, WELL, SEE ABOVE
wew the amount of hackers on labs is crazy now, i lose about 50% of the fights but i'm actually able to beat aimbotters due to a tactic or two i've developed

labs is just cheater v cheater now, and even reserve has lots of the types of cheaters that try and look legit.

Famethrowa
Oct 5, 2012

LGD posted:

FYI the 7.62 AKs got a (badly needed) recoil buff

I'm working so can't really test, but on first appearance this isn't a sea-change level adjustment but hopefully does render the various AKs somewhat more controllable at non-point-blank distances

That's a good rear end change. Having aks being only usable as tap shooters felt weird.

Cage Kicker
Feb 20, 2009

End of the fiscal year, bitch.
MP's got time to order pens for year year, hooah?


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Lipstick Apathy
Hi, new here...how exactly do I hide items up my rear end?

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

Cage Kicker posted:

Hi, new here...how exactly do I hide items up my rear end?

your alpha container, or gamma if you have that instead

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


Aren't larger rifle caliber weapons from the AKM to the M-14 essentially uncontrollable automatically?

And I also keep running into teleporting players. :smith:

Orv
May 4, 2011

Gabriel S. posted:

Aren't larger rifle caliber weapons from the AKM to the M-14 essentially uncontrollable automatically?

As in realistically? No, there wouldn't be a whole lot of point in making a weapons platform for warfare that your average trained adult couldn't control. Video game recoil has always been vastly out of line with the reality of these things which just makes Tarkovs insistence on the most realistic simulation of combat possible a bit funnier.

Though granted the revelation that automatic recoil in Tarkov becomes basically non-existent after four or five rounds is actually a pretty decently realistic way to handle things.

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


Orv posted:

As in realistically? No, there wouldn't be a whole lot of point in making a weapons platform for warfare that your average trained adult couldn't control. Video game recoil has always been vastly out of line with the reality of these things which just makes Tarkovs insistence on the most realistic simulation of combat possible a bit funnier.

Though granted the revelation that automatic recoil in Tarkov becomes basically non-existent after four or five rounds is actually a pretty decently realistic way to handle things.

The M-14 is absolutely too powerful at the least, I don't have a comparable Kalashnikov video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAABMvmaGWQ

I wish they'd get rid of the automatic recoil reduction and add that feature were bushes move when they're hit by players.

Orv
May 4, 2011

Gabriel S. posted:

The M-14 is absolutely too powerful at the least, I don't have a comparable Kalashnikov video.

I wish they'd get rid of the automatic recoil reduction and add that feature were bushes move when they're hit by players.

I mean yeah there are absolutely guns that are way too much but most of the weapons in the game are or were service or police weapons that needed to be usable by an average person.

Speaking of which where's our Metal Storm emplacement on Reserve.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8hlj4EbdsE

darnon
Nov 8, 2009
7.62x39 is only an intermediate cartridge so it's less of a problem. Full auto battle rifles like the FAL (which was originally designed for an intermediate cartridge) or M14 it's considered the first 3 shots or so you can reasonably control and then likely you're way above your target until you get up to like LMG weight does it become more manageable.

Wooper
Oct 16, 2006

Champion draGoon horse slayer. Making Lancers weep for their horsies since 2011. Viva Dickbutt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6cqYLdIqmI

Orv
May 4, 2011

darnon posted:

7.62x39 is only an intermediate cartridge so it's less of a problem. Full auto battle rifles like the FAL (which was originally designed for an intermediate cartridge) or M14 it's considered the first 3 shots or so you can reasonably control and then likely you're way above your target until you get up to like LMG weight does it become more manageable.

The new Modern Warfare is finally the game in which there is a usable FAL and it turns out it's probably for the best that it's a nightmare everywhere else.

LGD
Sep 25, 2004

Orv posted:

As in realistically? No, there wouldn't be a whole lot of point in making a weapons platform for warfare that your average trained adult couldn't control. Video game recoil has always been vastly out of line with the reality of these things which just makes Tarkovs insistence on the most realistic simulation of combat possible a bit funnier.

Though granted the revelation that automatic recoil in Tarkov becomes basically non-existent after four or five rounds is actually a pretty decently realistic way to handle things.

tbf that's part of the reason they moved away from using full sized rifle cartridges for automatic infantry weapons, because something like an M14 isn't particularly controllable

that doesn't apply to the AKM though, because 7.62x39 is an intermediate cartridge



compared to NATO rounds, 7.62x39 has more muzzle energy than 5.56 but only by ~10-20% iirc (it's a heavier, slower bullet), but only somewhat over half of what 7.62x51 packs

e;fb

Orv
May 4, 2011
Hold on, are you telling me we don't need to make .308 battle rifles the standard military firearm?

But yes, it's all sort of a moot point anyway because I don't think you're going to find too many units out there training to corner peak your local shopping mall aisle while spraying a 100 round drum mag at another man in a full body suit of body armor doing the same.

Stux
Nov 17, 2006

1001 Arabian dicks posted:

wew the amount of hackers on labs is crazy now, i lose about 50% of the fights but i'm actually able to beat aimbotters due to a tactic or two i've developed

labs is just cheater v cheater now, and even reserve has lots of the types of cheaters that try and look legit.

Gabriel S. posted:

And I also keep running into teleporting players. :smith:

if only we couldve seen this coming lol

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


Skimming through the Tarkov forums they banned over a thousands players earlier this week. Unreal.

aniviron
Sep 11, 2014

I admit that I hold out relatively little hope that the cheating problem will ever go away in this game. I remember PUBG before and after the cheating waves; it got unplayably bad years ago, and I stopped trying. Last week, Steam flashes a news update about PUBG to me- hey, they're still fighting the cheaters, and even with two factor and a special queue and everything the cheating plague remains. I think Tarkov is just going to be infested forever.

1001 Arabian dicks
Sep 16, 2013

EVE ONLINE IS MY ENTIRE PERSONALITY BECAUSE IM A FRIENDLESS SEMILITERATE LOSER WHO WILL PEDANTICALLY DEMAND PROOF FOR BASIC THINGS LIKE GRAVITY OR THE EXISTENCE OF SELF. ASK ME ABOUT CHEATING AT TARKOV BECAUSE, WELL, SEE ABOVE

Gabriel S. posted:

Skimming through the Tarkov forums they banned over a thousands players earlier this week. Unreal.

i've been "cheating" in tarkov for almost a year at this point and haven't even come close to being caught

the game is dead

Umbreon
May 21, 2011

1001 Arabian dicks posted:

i've been "cheating" in tarkov for almost a year at this point and haven't even come close to being caught

the game is dead

Do show us literally any competitive online FPS game that doesn't have cheaters no matter how long it's been out

Mesadoram
Nov 4, 2009

Serious Business

Lemon posted:

https://escapefromtarkov.gamepedia.com/MK12_Low_Profile_Gas_Block

This is available from Mechanic LL1, probably best used in conjunction with a scope/sight.

Thank you!

Stux
Nov 17, 2006

Gabriel S. posted:

Skimming through the Tarkov forums they banned over a thousands players earlier this week. Unreal.

a good chunk of those are RMT farm accounts that already paid for themselves and just bought a new one immediately after

Lucca Blight
Jun 2, 2009
What is the etiquette for the discord?
Do I throw myself in the stage appropriate voice chat and wait? Ask in general first? DM people that are already in a voice chat?
I don't want to be rude.

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

Lucca Blight posted:

What is the etiquette for the discord?
Do I throw myself in the stage appropriate voice chat and wait? Ask in general first? DM people that are already in a voice chat?
I don't want to be rude.

same but more importantly is it ok if I suck rear end at this game

Famethrowa
Oct 5, 2012

Lucca Blight posted:

What is the etiquette for the discord?
Do I throw myself in the stage appropriate voice chat and wait? Ask in general first? DM people that are already in a voice chat?
I don't want to be rude.

just don't be annoying if people are clearly in a gunfight or coordinating (they usually aren't). just say "hey" and you'll get pulled into the next raid as long as they don't have 5

Stux
Nov 17, 2006

https://i.imgur.com/s4Q9KG7.mp4

my official advice this wipe is to run pp-19s and leg people who have the reaction times of a slug

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


Umbreon posted:

Do show us literally any competitive online FPS game that doesn't have cheaters no matter how long it's been out

The amount of hacking I’ve seen in this game reminds me of when PubG hit critical mass. It was awful for nearly months and every game had a few flying players.

Mesadoram
Nov 4, 2009

Serious Business

Stux posted:

https://i.imgur.com/s4Q9KG7.mp4

my official advice this wipe is to run pp-19s and leg people who have the reaction times of a slug

People underestimate the PP-19. Close to medium range it can leg meta hard, and with the buff to 19m rounds armor pen, it can do pretty decent with body shots.

TheTofuShop
Aug 28, 2009

Lucca Blight posted:

What is the etiquette for the discord?
Do I throw myself in the stage appropriate voice chat and wait? Ask in general first? DM people that are already in a voice chat?
I don't want to be rude.

Pornographic Memory posted:

same but more importantly is it ok if I suck rear end at this game

Just join a channel for the map you wanna play if no one is playing. If you see people in a voice chat, hop in. Wait a moment of two and listen to make sure they arent in the middle of a tense firefight, then say hi and let them know you're new. Most goons are pretty friendly and chill, the wipe has a whole bunch of people returning as well.

Its fine to be bad, we all are, just dont be an rear end in a top hat.

If you have specific questions, you can ask in general or ping a sherpa (roles are listed in discord)

Stux
Nov 17, 2006

Mesadoram posted:

People underestimate the PP-19. Close to medium range it can leg meta hard, and with the buff to 19m rounds armor pen, it can do pretty decent with body shots.

yeah ive been having really good raids with it, i was originally using it to hunt scavs with but it really does leg well. and as a bonus ive been using this same one for ages because no one ever loots it

SSJ_naruto_2003
Oct 12, 2012



Quattroace just went through all of dorms and found THREE more factory keys in jackets.

apparently you can only carry two factory keys. So he had to just leave two of them there

even tried putting the extras into a bag on the ground, but as soon as it would have been more than 2 in inventory, he couldnt put his backpack back on. why

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Grimthwacker
Aug 7, 2014

The more I learn and see about this game the more the voice in my head screams: "When's S.T.A.L.K.E.R. 2?!?"

I've been thinking of getting into this but I don't know if I'll have the time/patience to dedicate to it. I do want something to fill that "Russian loot 'n shoot" void short of reinstalling Shadow of Chernobyl for yet another playthrough. I'd have to chew over the $45 asking price, which is money I can put towards the many other games on my wishlist.

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