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Probably pretty good because they're minions!
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Jun 18, 2020 16:24
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So the furthest I've ever got in this game was A5 Sirus last league with Poison BV Assassin, which was also my most fun build. I don't particularly want to run it again, but I do want a build that can tear through maps as quickly, which was in no small part due to whirling blades being mapped to my right mouse button. I thought about making an RF Jugg as a second character (I've never played one before) because the idea of bombing it through maps with minimal clicking appeals to me a lot. Would Ice Crash Raider be better? Thinking that RF hasn't really been relevant for a very long time for a reason.
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Jun 18, 2020 16:37
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Alright going to try penance brand as a starter this league. Not sure what ascendancy yet. It does massive damage with ailments so maybe stormfire or fire conversion with ignite as well? Also if there is room in the goon guild can I get an invite on PlatypusPancake
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Jun 18, 2020 16:38
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Perforate has always been an amazing early skill and they made it better
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Jun 18, 2020 16:39
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boredsatellite posted:The last I played with SRS was in harbinger league It feels better mostly thanks to being able to cast a lot with something that isn't spell echo but it still poo poo because the damage just isn't there anymore compared to other newer things. SRS should be like skeletons, the default should be being able to summon 3-4 of them at a time
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Jun 18, 2020 16:39
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for those who were using Ziz's VD spellslinger league starter build, he published an update for Harvest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzgzJdPEnL4
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Jun 18, 2020 16:40
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Ixjuvin posted:If there's guild space, can I get an invite on Ixjuvin please? If there’s room I’d like one too - fwoompf
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Jun 18, 2020 16:44
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frytechnician posted:So the furthest I've ever got in this game was A5 Sirus last league with Poison BV Assassin, which was also my most fun build. I don't particularly want to run it again, but I do want a build that can tear through maps as quickly, which was in no small part due to whirling blades being mapped to my right mouse button. I thought about making an RF Jugg as a second character (I've never played one before) because the idea of bombing it through maps with minimal clicking appeals to me a lot. Would Ice Crash Raider be better? Thinking that RF hasn't really been relevant for a very long time for a reason. RF got dumpstered back in Blight. It's 20% of your life + flat fire damage per second to enemies instead of 40% of your life, so the old strategy of "get ALL OF THE LIFE to get all of the damage" is far less effective. If you're looking for minimal button pressing + great clear, I'd probably go Baron Zombie Necromancer. Aggressive minions are quite good at murdering everything a screen and a half away, Baron Zombies are drat near invincible and most of your clicking would be situational casting of Offerings/Debuffs/Guard skills.
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Jun 18, 2020 16:48
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After theorycrafting a bunch of builds using 2h uniques with the skill/item damage accounted for, nothing looks particularly crazy but there are definitely some viable builds to be made. Ironically, the only experiment that I really thought looked cool was a nebuloch/cons path chieftain using shockwave + tawhoa's. Previously that build suffered a lot from its low attack speed, but the two extra attacks neutralize it by letting you focus on per hit damage. Tuning to 2 APS to consistently trigger both effects, and it roughly doubled the dps of my 3.10 juggernaut version with like 3000 net life regen and still huge armor.
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Jun 18, 2020 16:49
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One of the great cycles of life in this game is telling everyone that wants to do RF that they missed the boat by over a year. You could make a perpetual motion machine with the disappointment.
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Jun 18, 2020 16:54
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I ran a pretty successful rf juggernaut in hc delirium using grey spire + doryani's delusion. Map clear was solid, boss fights were admittedly pretty slow. Downed sirus and shaper with it, didn't get around to uber elder and I think it would've been pretty poo poo for simulacrum or blighted maps. Even pulling off that mediocre kind of performance took a massive pile of perfected cluster jewels.
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Jun 18, 2020 16:57
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whypick1 posted:RF got dumpstered back in Blight. It's 20% of your life + flat fire damage per second to enemies instead of 40% of your life, so the old strategy of "get ALL OF THE LIFE to get all of the damage" is far less effective. That's decided then, Ice Crash Raider as a second character it is. I also love necro but have played one every league since Bestiary so I want to do something different. Curse you for getting ideas in my head FastAF!
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Jun 18, 2020 17:06
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Vasudus posted:cast on death discharge 
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Jun 18, 2020 17:08
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FP totems Berserker Cyclone/EQ CA/TR Trickster SRS necromancer BL/Arc miner Spectral Throw Deadeye
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Jun 18, 2020 17:13
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frytechnician posted:That's decided then, Ice Crash Raider as a second character it is. I also love necro but have played one every league since Bestiary so I want to do something different. I try my hardest to squeeze Raider into every melee build I do, but it's hard to recommend that ascendancy over something like Slayer or Berserker, especially since warcries and fist of war want you to be attacking slow.
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Jun 18, 2020 17:19
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Don't forget ED trickster, bleed bow glad, and bleed lacerate glad.
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Jun 18, 2020 17:19
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Chieftain with BLS and tukohama shield can pretty much do everything with AWC. Those are cheap as hell uniques
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Jun 18, 2020 17:21
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I'm actually thinking ice crash. You can freeze stuff instead of stunning, it fully converts, and you don't have to worry about tectonic slam issues (endurance charges, the third slam not lining up with exerted/fist of war) or the awkward scaling of earthquake. The question is whether to do slayer or berserker. Or chieftain cold to fire, but I don't know how complicated that would be.
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Jun 18, 2020 17:23
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Third slam being charged not a thing with Tec slam Every tec slam hit is buffed by your endurance charges. Every third hit it eats a charge. That’s it.
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Jun 18, 2020 17:25
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You would need two of these three: Avatar of Fire, Cold to Fire support, or a 20q Pyre if you wanted to do fire Ice Crash. The 20q Pyre would only be 48%.
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Jun 18, 2020 17:26
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I did a One with Nothing Ice Crash Zerker with warcry clusters last league that was extremely strong and cool, I mashed every boss in the face very quickly and rapidly until they were dead and I was not and it felt good. not having to use a Hatred conversion eye or Hrimburn or picking up bad nodes on the tree to fully convert seem like very nice benefits to that build. obviously you can't league start something with OWN but I'm sure you could Facebreak your way through until you could afford the jewel
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Jun 18, 2020 17:33
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I'd consider SRS but I can't afford the raven cosmetic until payday, two weeks away. So it's a second build at best. And no. What's the point of playing it if I'm not summoning my crow friends? I'm still torn between dual neb tecslam jug and an ED trickster.
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Jun 18, 2020 17:38
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Arcanist brand doesn't look that great, but I wonder how it would compare with little investment vs. spell totem. Do new gems usually not get added to PoB until after launch?
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Jun 18, 2020 17:50
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Aye Doc posted:I did a One with Nothing Ice Crash Zerker with warcry clusters last league that was extremely strong and cool, I mashed every boss in the face very quickly and rapidly until they were dead and I was not and it felt good. not having to use a Hatred conversion eye or Hrimburn or picking up bad nodes on the tree to fully convert seem like very nice benefits to that build. obviously you can't league start something with OWN but I'm sure you could Facebreak your way through until you could afford the jewel I did it with Glacial Hammer Zerker with the warcry stuff and Hegemony on HC till level 91. Was pretty drat good, but I think a bit carried with the clusters? Not sure. Doing an Ice Crash variant seems tempting, but I got a decent setup for BleedQuake to start first I think.
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Jun 18, 2020 18:02
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https://pastebin.com/8MEWNtuh Welp, reddit figured out how to herald. Or rather selfish auradin, cuz he isn't running all 5 Futzing around with the asc, I swapped to guardian and got 2/3 the dps for more pdr and 1.5x the recovery. Also arc > spark imo Grimoire fucked around with this message at 18:21 on Jun 18, 2020 |
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Jun 18, 2020 18:07
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SpunkyRedKnight posted:Arcanist brand doesn't look that great, but I wonder how it would compare with little investment vs. spell totem. Do new gems usually not get added to PoB until after launch? It looks pretty good to me. GGG has confirmed Arcanist brand is your hits like other brands, so you can leech from them; reducing AOE is actually a DPS boost to some pretty good skills and the surplus More for attached enemies means that these should be effective at killing bosses still too. Imagine 2x Firestorm brands both dumping their whole damage potential onto a boss with recasts 2-3 times per second. Or other skills that get more damage with less AOE, I've just actually tried Firestorm previously  .I look forward to seeing what works well and what doesn't. I was hoping to do Ball Lightning brands, if the overall reductions to it from the Arcanist Brand support are not ruinous. I'll be getting more AOE in my build to help make up for the brand attachment behavior nerfs, so hopefully the reduced AOE won't make it too small to be effective against packs or whatever. Though given that they are still self cast hits, the AOE will probably be limited to one in-range AOE per monster rather than them all applying separately like traps/mines (totems? I would assume?). So it may be better to go with something else, I'll have to see. Tomorrow! Agreed fucked around with this message at 19:11 on Jun 18, 2020 |
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Jun 18, 2020 18:58
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How is SSVD boss damage once you're into late red's (without switching to low life/big investment)? Reddit seems to think it falls off a bunch, but...Reddit. I haven't played VD since the Poet's glory days.
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Jun 18, 2020 18:58
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Prel posted:How is SSVD boss damage once you're into late red's (without switching to low life/big investment)? Reddit seems to think it falls off a bunch, but...Reddit. I haven't played VD since the Poet's glory days. Ziz said his build gets about 1.3 mil which is kinda low these days but definitely capable of doing everything. His setup is also like comically defensive so you could probably double that damage without even having to go lowlife by giving up the max res and warcry stuff
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Jun 18, 2020 19:06
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Alright throwing this out there: Wintertide Brand Trickster How bad would that be as a starter
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Jun 18, 2020 19:17
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Agreed posted:It looks pretty good to me. GGG has confirmed Arcanist brand is your hits like other brands, so you can leech from them; reducing AOE is actually a DPS boost to some pretty good skills and the surplus More for attached enemies means that these should be effective at killing bosses still too. Imagine 2x Firestorm brands both dumping their whole damage potential onto a boss with recasts 2-3 times per second. Or other skills that get more damage with less AOE, I've just actually tried Firestorm previously Firestorm, icestorm, bladefall, cremation are the ones that come to mind. Not sure how the brands will interact with intensify, but with 5-6 cluster jewels that give +1 to intensity it was possible to turn firestorm and bladefall into lasers that dropped every hit into a tiny area. More gimmick than anything else but interesting to see those extremes.
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Jun 18, 2020 19:19
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Traitorous Leopard posted:Alright throwing this out there: Wintertide Brand Trickster Might be good, its just winterbrand instead of vortex. You could be winterbrand and vaal cold snap. It's a hella lot of travel if you intend to get that +1 brands between witch/templar.
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Jun 18, 2020 19:20
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Traitorous Leopard posted:Alright throwing this out there: Wintertide Brand Trickster If it sucks you could respec to Vortex/Cold Snap pretty painlessly
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Jun 18, 2020 19:20
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnJ30vbK9Ho Reddit actually made a funny meme this league.
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Jun 18, 2020 19:22
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OK lemme see if I understand Wintertide Brand correctly: -It attaches to an enemy -Each time it activates, it increases the DOT stack, kind of like Blight -When it detaches, it spreads the total DOT stack to all nearby enemies That sounds pretty good?
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Jun 18, 2020 19:35
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Now imagine poe 2 where you also have arctic breath, vortex, and cold snap also in 6 links and you stack all 4 dot spells.
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Jun 18, 2020 19:39
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iwQpPD-GYY No, this is a funny meme.
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Jun 18, 2020 19:40
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It kinda looked like you could get Wintertide so short that it would be triggerable in CwC or Asenath's or whatever and still get most of the value but I didn't feel like running the numbers, will just wait for pob to check.
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Jun 18, 2020 19:41
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Fister Roboto posted:OK lemme see if I understand Wintertide Brand correctly: The increase in dot damage is more like scorching ray. It's a single instance of damage over time that grows in stages. With just the default values from the jewel, you'd hit 8 stages for 160% more damage (+1 stage per .25 seconds, max attach of 2.0 seconds) and then it would detach off and apply that amplified dot to everything around it for 6 seconds. That default 2 second wait for aoe to kick in sounds pretty awkward. It'll probably always be paired with swiftbrand to bring the time down to .8 seconds and speed the stage ramp-up. Looks like you would want some cast/activation speed to amp the stage gain because default rate is only going to get you to 7 or 8 stages, while the max is 20. Cast speed is not otherwise something a cold dot build cares much about, so it will detract from either defense or your vortex/cold snap secondary damage.
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Jun 18, 2020 19:45
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McFrugal posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iwQpPD-GYY  Spiders? Spectral Wolves? Bestial Rhoa?! Wtf I have never even heard of any of these summons and I only play minions. I love this game.
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Jun 18, 2020 19:48
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I have 600 hours in this game and I have been looking up skills all week and being like "wtf I never heard of this one".
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