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lol remember the CIG HAS DEVELOPED RENDER TO TEXTURE AND RUTTO (our co-founder and lawyer) IS THE FIRST NPC TO SET THE AMAZING STAGE OF THIS NEVER BEFORE SEEN TECH and then it turns out he was there and was just invisible because the npc cast a loving shadow and they just blew up his head on the display and made it blue lol
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It is pretty amazing that CIG figured out how to Render to Texture. For decades every game we've played has just been a black screen, until now.
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Jun 18, 2020 20:13
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Come on EA : Star Citizen being a severely troubled project is no secret. All you have to do is compare the CIG official communication to realized results. Not even mentioning the deeper analysis done by more prominent gaming journalists. Or ex-sc streamers/shills for that matter. : The only people who believe that "Star Citizen is a severely troubled project" is you and your hate club. The only "gaming journalists" that agree with you are those that haven't bothered to do their research at all and those that do the research have reported that the game is being made and nothing is out of the norm. Of course, you want to ignore those facts to push your agenda.What was it you were saying to the mirror? "Do you often feel harrassed by facts?" Yes...I believe that was it.
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Jun 18, 2020 20:21
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Beet Wagon posted:I forgot what you even have to do to unlock him lol, maybe I'll go back one of these days and try it. Pretty sure it's just bounty hunt missions around Delamar. Eventually you'll get one of those "we should talk" missions from Miles.
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Jun 18, 2020 20:22
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Beet Wagon posted:This is what miles three jackets looks like for me as of today This dude took more than a year of work to create, he should look good. Now that we have a grand total of 3 different quest-givers (and the latest has been delayed for months) the pipelines will finally be able to deliver them faster than ever.
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Jun 18, 2020 20:24
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trucutru posted:This dude took more than a year of work to create, he should look good. I'm all a titter about the "bartender." I can only imagine seeing him for the first time will be like witnessing a real angel. Maybe our eyes will melt because of the bartender's intense beauty?
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Jun 18, 2020 20:40
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trucutru posted:This dude took more than a year of work to create, he should look good. I forgot how long they took to build that guy. He should probably be the Adonis of character appearance and reality. What is he drinking, milk? Warm cum?
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Jun 18, 2020 20:44
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a redditor, originally posted:To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty. The humour is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Rick's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Narodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realise that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Rick & Morty truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Rick's existential catchphrase "Wubba Lubba Dub Dub," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons. I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Dan Harmon's genius wit unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools.. how I pity them. 😂
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Jun 18, 2020 20:48
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I think he is drinking a 'Dirty Sandi'. Also, when talking about Star Citizen characters, you must judge them with the fact that you must keep in mind the song "Full Burn". This makes them super mega ultra awesome.
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Jun 18, 2020 20:49
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The tech behind the art in SC tends to be decent, clearly some talented 3D and tech artists worked on it, but its direction is derivative and ugly. The characters look fine at best and awful at worst, they stick out like sore thumbs in their respective environments with their floaty and weightless animations and thousand yard stares. For a 300 mil project that has at best a claim to having achieved decent graphical fidelity this is kinda pathetic. Speaking from the heart as a 3D artist, even though i mostly work on cheap mobile games, the aesthetics of SC as a whole and its characters are deeply disappointing. In fact it was exactly its failure on the aesthetic front that made me curious as to why people were supporting with so much and how is it possible it achieved so little. Also since cinematics were mentioned, i felt empathetic cringe watching Gary Oldman in the SQ42 trailer, thats how bad it was.
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Jun 18, 2020 20:58
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resistentialism posted:The development is extremely subtle, It's like jazz, it's all about the development milestones you don't reach.
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Jun 18, 2020 21:01
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Peak Star Citizen aesthetic is the 890j trailer.
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Jun 18, 2020 21:04
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trucutru posted:This dude took more than a year of work to create, he should look good. that's the main problem. it isn't so much that individual assets are bad. they just have a real problem assembling them into environments that are more than the sum of the individual parts. occasionally with enough time they can manage it but it's rare. it's a big problem because it doesn't make a world that captures you and pulls you in, just a waiting room for gameplay that doesn't exist.
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Jun 18, 2020 21:08
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Top of reddit right now Note to self: Dont open cargo door onto rocks  1 step forward, 2 steps back  Well, this one genuinely startled me  Plus some post about turret placement being crap
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Jun 18, 2020 21:09
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Jim DiGriz posted:Sexist smart kid It's like you can almost tell who is still in high school and/or living in their parents basement struggling to get an IT degree (CS was too hard, but they still want to feel smart).
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Jun 18, 2020 21:20
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Just a reminder that actual good space game Outer Wilds has hit steam at a discount. https://store.steampowered.com/app/753640/Outer_Wilds/
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Jun 18, 2020 21:30
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Beet Wagon posted:Also fwiw I'm not trying to dogpile. I understand the desire to be fair, and specifically to avoid the sort of kneejerk "Everything in Star Citizen must be horrible, I'm not allowed to think anything is good!" thing that people sometimes fall into. I just disagree with the idea of bending over backwards to try and excuse graphical shortcomings, particularly in a game where - like I said - they've been jacking off nonstop over eyeball texture fidelity for the last seven years. It's not bending backwards. It's being fair. You can't take the best of game X and the worst of game Y and draw the conclusion that X is good and Y is bad. I mean, if you seriously see nothing wrong with how this whole debate started ( a comparison between Last of Us 2, main character cinematic, versus a generic in-game character in Star Citizen ), then I'm not sure what to say any more, I've made my point crystal clear. I wouldn't have raised hell if the comparison was with a cinematic character from SQ42. Nyast fucked around with this message at 21:36 on Jun 18, 2020 |
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Jun 18, 2020 21:33
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All Star Citizen characters are generic. That's what happens when the person who micromanages every aspect of your game has no ideas of his own.
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Jun 18, 2020 21:38
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Nyast posted:It's not bending backwards. It's being fair. You can't take the best of game X and the worst of game Y and draw the conclusion that X is good and Y is bad. I mean, if you seriously see nothing wrong with how this whole debate started ( a comparison between Last of Us 2, main character cinematic, versus a generic in-game character in Star Citizen ), then I'm not sure what to say any more, I've made my point crystal clear. I wouldn't have raised hell if the comparison was with a cinematic character from SQ42. And, you are purposely ignoring when people do make X to X and Y to Y comparisons. Look most of us have been following this game since its inception. It had very pretty static graphics almost a decade ago, there are games that are surpassing it and will continue to do so. There is nothing special about Star Citizen, nothing.
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Jun 18, 2020 21:39
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Inacio posted:i managed to make the launcher button appear. What the gently caress, wasn’t this problem only due to the ultra super massive number of players influx during free fly week?
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Jun 18, 2020 21:40
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monkeytek posted:And, you are purposely ignoring when people do make X to X and Y to Y comparisons. I am ignoring these comparisons because they're fair, that's my entire point and that's what I was asking for in the first place ! At no point have I defended or argued that Star Citizen, or SQ42's characters are better or look top-notch or worthy of $300M. I invite you to read again all my posts with a fresh mind. All I've said is "if you're gonna crap on Star Citizen, make sure you're comparing apples to apples and not apples to oranges otherwise the comparison is biased".
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Jun 18, 2020 21:44
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This discussion stemmed from how delusional backers are saying this game is revolutionary in every single aspect, especially graphics. The moment they took that deal with Crytek to USE Cryengine (because they seemingly had no other options) this project was doomed. They wanted a good presentation and they sure as poo poo got it at the cost of using an old resource hog of an engine that is not designed for space games at all
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Jun 18, 2020 21:53
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People are being fair, imo, extremely fair by the standards of SA pileons. I had a very similar experience to the titanic over free fly week and did my level best to give the game a fair shake. The npcs were competent for a 2012 game like spec ops the line, I'd say, though they were generally a combination of frozen, t-posed, flicking from place to place or superimposed on each other. The clothing and gear is decent, maybe solid 2016 vintage?
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Jun 18, 2020 21:58
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MedicineHut posted:What the gently caress, wasn’t this problem only due to the ultra super massive number of players influx during free fly week? Apparently spinning up additional servers is not in the cards.
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Nyast posted:I am ignoring these comparisons because they're fair, that's my entire point and that's what I was asking for in the first place ! In a way I agree with you, you feel we are comparing the graphics from single player games to an MMO. I get that this is not valid. The main issue is that currently Star Citizen is a MP arena game pretending at some point that it will be an MMO and maintain the current graphics.
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I feel like we've reached a point in this discussion where discussing SC's graphics has become like discussing Sandi's attractiveness. It's like sure, 3D artists/DNA may have arranged all the pieces in more or less the right place, and given everything a convincing size and shape...but there's something about the whole package that is off-putting and mildly terrifying.
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trucutru posted:This dude took more than a year of work to create, he should look good. so they already had his facial animations and rigs right outta the box, including high lod and texture work
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Star Citizen is what you get when a bunch of untrained at best, inept at worst, people get together on a project none of them are remotely qualified to work on, and claim they'll do it better than seasoned and experienced professionals because
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TheAgent posted:you also gotta remember that dude is already in cryengine 3 thanks to a previous performance capture for Ryse The Archering is pretty shameless, to the point where they actually use the Latin for soldier ("miles") as Eckhart's first name.
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Nyast posted:I am ignoring these comparisons because they're fair, that's my entire point and that's what I was asking for in the first place !
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CB2077 delayed 8 weeks. SC is... good?
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leave star citizen alone! https://i.imgur.com/JB7xfzo.gifv
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Beluga Snail posted:CB2077 delayed 8 weeks.
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TheAgent posted:awhile back I wondered why they didn't just delay until the new consoles were out, could be angling as a next gen launch title at this point Yeah it's telling that they're letting press start doing initial playthroughs and impressions 5 months in advance - while I'm sure they could use more time working out bugs and balance (and even if they do it'll likely still be a Witcher 3-esque buggy mess on launch just by virtue of how damned big it's sure to be) I also think they could have made that Sep date if they wanted to. I'd wager some kind of sweet sweet tie in with one of the new consoles might be involved. Also, belated congratulations on the nuptials! Hopefully the honeymoon went well regaling the new spouse with the latest HELLO dump.
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I suspect it's just not that fun yet and they're frantically trying to put the fun in. Poor devs, I hope their families didn't want to see them for the next six months..
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Nyast posted:It's not bending backwards. It's being fair. You can't take the best of game X and the worst of game Y and draw the conclusion that X is good and Y is bad. I mean, if you seriously see nothing wrong with how this whole debate started ( a comparison between Last of Us 2, main character cinematic, versus a generic in-game character in Star Citizen ), then I'm not sure what to say any more, I've made my point crystal clear. I wouldn't have raised hell if the comparison was with a cinematic character from SQ42. Nah I mean you wrote like detailed instructions about which character tiers can be compared between which games. It's really not that complicated and I don't think anyone has to do that much to justify the statement that star citizen characters look like poo poo, because they objectively do and anybody who fires it up long enough to see one realizes this. Beluga Snail posted:CB2077 delayed 8 weeks. Reddit is gonna be insufferable lol, thank god I don't go there any more
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Nyast posted:I am ignoring these comparisons because they're fair, that's my entire point and that's what I was asking for in the first place ! Fair points.
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Defiance Industries posted:All Star Citizen characters are generic. That's what happens when the person who micromanages every aspect of your game has no ideas of his own. ...and won't let the artists use their ideas, which is how you most effectively use an artist. You don't hire them to drive Blender (or whatever the cool renderkids are using these days); you hire them to be creative and turn your thoughts/direction into a better concrete expression than you ever could. Theoretically. Speaking as someone who does not understand game/software/art/joke development.
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thank you, I read her the hello dump in lieu of our wedding vows, it was a big mistake as the county clerk was a $250,000 backer and has now completely refunded my bad, crobbear
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