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Yeah, that's Nemesis. I think it might be the only Millar thing I've read. I am very ok with that staying the case.
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bunnyofdoom posted:Wasn't that the one with the all white joker? He's not the Joker. Nemesis is anti-Batman - he's very rich and very bored, so one day he decides to dress in white and be a villain. And even Millar fans called him out on the booby trapped womb because it was dumb. It's by a long way the worst thing he's written.
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Jedit posted:It's by a long way the worst thing he's written. Unfunnies takes that honour I think.
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Jun 19, 2020 00:58
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Jedit posted:It is, and he didn't. All the Secret Service stories were written by Rob Williams, who is credited as writer on the sequels. I do believe that Millar had the original idea, though, so it's more of him trying to be a Stan Lee for his Millarworld line than outright theft. Millar wrote the original The Secret Service miniseries, unless memory (and my Google searching) is failing me really badly. Williams wrote the sequel series a few years later, though.
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Jun 19, 2020 01:13
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Unfunnies is an excellent reason to seal Millar into a vault and throw away the key all on its own.
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Jun 19, 2020 01:36
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Did Nemesis even have a fully story arc because I just remember hearing about that stupid first issue and nothing else.
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It sucks Millar is a talented writer, decides to mostly just write gross, immature stuff, and has probably made more money off licensing than any other living comic writer. Except Kirkman, probably.
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https://twitter.com/warrenellis/status/1273785757338083328?s=20 I think it's a good apology, but I need to see him actually do the work he says he'll do. I thought Louis CK's apology when the poo poo about him first came out was well done and then he just hunkered down for 6 months and came back pretending nothing happened.
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i feel like the idea that he didnt realize he was in a position of power would land better if the main allegation in the news right now wasnt that she was 19 and he was 30something at the time
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Jun 19, 2020 02:33
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Madkal posted:Did Nemesis even have a fully story arc because I just remember hearing about that stupid first issue and nothing else. Yeah. The protagonist is a well-known supercop who's doing his best to catch Nemesis, and the book is a series of back-and-forth moves between them. RevKrule posted:You mean it's missing the incest baby with abortion-trigger bomb? Not just that. Before Secret Service, most of his creator-owned work had remarkably bleak endings. The first volume of Kick-rear end, Chosen, Nemesis, and Wanted, off the top of my head, all have very "edgelord" conclusions. Wanted might be the happiest, and only then because Wesley did manage to murder most of the world's villains by the end, so he's done a lot of good overall even if he himself is still a monster. I will say that Huck was fairly upbeat overall, and I actually like MPH more than most of his creator-owned work, so he's getting a little better as he goes. Prodigy is a little by-the-numbers, though.
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doingitwrong posted:Also that he was literally know as Stalin on WEF. quote:Dr Nerdlove has a good accounting of the culture of the forum and the wider culture of comics. I’ve only been on the edges of this world but none of what is described sounds out of character to me. https://www.doctornerdlove.com/on-f...-comic-culture/  Steve McQueen slapping Ali McGraw from The Getaway (1972) as the WEF's stock response to anyone complaining or stepping out of line. Ha ha hilarious!
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Very strong Myth of the Male Bumbler vibes coming off of Ellis's response.
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FMguru posted:He tries to elide that at the start of his "apology", with his comment about how he never thought of himself as powerful and famous despite twenty years of bad jokes about it.
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Edge & Christian posted:One of the many receipts I wish I had kept, but do you have any recollection of Brian Wood making that image into a house ad for AiT/PlanetLar on some weird "Comics of Action. For Real Men!" tip that in my head I conflate with the weird ongoing grudge against Lea Hernandez? I found an off-hand reference to it on a Brian Wood blog/forum years ago, but when I looked for it awhile back that link is dead thanks to Brian Wood doing a media scrub when all his stuff hit.
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Jun 19, 2020 03:40
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FMguru posted:That sounds vaguely familiar (and be would entirely on brand for Larry Young's throwback Rat Pack "real man" horseshit persona) but I have no specific recollection.
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Jun 19, 2020 04:19
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I wonder if all this poo poo floating around Ellis was the reason why all of his artists bailed on him in the middle of any long form work he was trying to do in the last 10 years.
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Jun 19, 2020 06:24
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Putrid Grin posted:I wonder if all this poo poo floating around Ellis was the reason why all of his artists bailed on him in the middle of any long form work he was trying to do in the last 10 years. Very possible. Hell there's projects he announced that never saw light despite being well into production.
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Somebody pointed out this makes the Kitty Pryde/Pete Wisdom stuff, at best, much weirder in hindsight.
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The Ellis stuff is especially awful because until this I would have held him up as some who was great at using his platform for promoting up-and-coming artists and writers, especially female ones. A lot of the people coming out with gross stories about him now are people whose work I’ve been following for years that I only learned about in the first place because of Ellis featuring them on one of his blogs or newsletters. Ughhh.
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Yeah. The reckoning that Nerdlove points us towards is that he was both. He was a supportive mentor, he signal boosted many great creators, and he abused that power. More and more, this is what a lot of creative industries need to deal with. We’re getting past the easily hated monsters and moving towards dealing with the damage caused by flawed sometimes well meaning sometimes horrible bundles of contradictions that are a much larger swath of people. That mess is going to be extremely difficult to untangle.
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https://twitter.com/seidmanlea/status/1273877446333313025?s=21 NerdLove apologized in a reply. Edge & Christian posted:One of the many receipts I wish I had kept, but do you have any recollection of Brian Wood making that image into a house ad for AiT/PlanetLar on some weird "Comics of Action. For Real Men!" tip that in my head I conflate with the weird ongoing grudge against Lea Hernandez? I found an off-hand reference to it on a Brian Wood blog/forum years ago, but when I looked for it awhile back that link is dead thanks to Brian Wood doing a media scrub when all his stuff hit. https://twitter.com/seidmanlea/status/1273914352458846212?s=21 She has a thread in reply here.
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sounds like there might be even more to it https://twitter.com/alexdecampi/status/1273995714121654280?s=20 https://twitter.com/alexdecampi/status/1274007243445411840?s=20
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I love how the industry I want to work in has an implosion every few months entirely predicated on the fact that it refuses to keep its house in order, shut down this creepy behavior and lock out the bums who perpetuate it. Also love how this system is so sideways that so many highly placed women in there have been harrassed, to the point where that harrassment is practically considered a rite of passage. Because making your supposed colleagues feel worthless is just normal when you're building a cool insider society that normies can't handle. Because when people desperately want to work in your space, the reasonable course of action is to use them, bully them, and throw them aside when you find a shiny new thing. No, wait: I don't love it, I am actually in genuine pain, and I hate it here!
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Eisner Awards voting website closed abruptly due to "anomaly," with investigation underway by Comic-Con In merely incompetent news, voting for the Eisners was abruptly stopped due to serious security issues. Users were changing sessions every page load, and could change other people's votes. They could also see the home address of whoever the site believed they were.
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Number go up! https://twitter.com/Foxtongue/status/1273746722380869632 The Facebook group for women to share their experiences of Ellis creeping on them has grown to almost 50 people. loving yikes. Also LOL at that Eisner voting debacle. Reasonably secure online voting has been a thing for 20 years, but they chose instead to go with some HTML 1.0 Perl/CGI era implementation for their system.
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The hits keep on coming, this one about the head of the CBLDF. https://twitter.com/Jennifer_deG/status/1274067226425831424
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https://twitter.com/anime/status/1274035478963068928?s=21 Not the first senior figure in Dark Horse to be a creep - there was an exposé on Scott Allie five years ago: https://twitter.com/ann_lynzee/status/1274125615101128704?s=21
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Dawgstar posted:The hits keep on coming, this one about the head of the CBLDF. don't they explicitly defend pedophiles?
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WeedlordGoku69 posted:don't they explicitly defend pedophiles? Most of their cases are people arrested for either making or distributing "obscene material" but what that means varies wildly to stuff you wouldn't think twice about an adolescent reading to stuff that's pretty loving disgusting.
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WeedlordGoku69 posted:don't they explicitly defend pedophiles? It's more of a "we support everyone due to the first amendment despite subject matter". The case I vaguely remember was Boiled Angels where the author was arrested for doing some dumb rear end "edgy" comic and eventually convicted for obscenity. I guess you can decide whether that is worth defending or not.
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Everyone's favorite imbecile decided to weigh in on this: https://twitter.com/EthanVanSciver/status/1273988950470864903 Always a good sign when the scum of the earth come to your defense. Ellis unequivocally told ComicsGate to gently caress off when it was picking up steam, so none of them are in a hurry to actually doxx or attack people on his account, thankfully. Unfortunately some of his shittier fans are doing that anyway.
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The wild storm/cyberfrog crossover is gonna put comicsgate on the map in 2021
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It begins https://twitter.com/RyanHigginsRyan/status/1274125604967690241
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I just read the news about Ellis and it's just dawning that my favorite Batman story of all time (the Planetary/Batman crossover) was written by a serial predator.
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Schneider Heim posted:I just read the news about Ellis and it's just dawning that my favorite Batman story of all time (the Planetary/Batman crossover) was written by a serial predator. Could be worse. You could be a fan of WRPGs and discover a tremendous majority of them were also. (linking from another thread.) END ME SCOOB posted:Well, this is depressing. He's also worked on comics as well so I guess it belongs here.
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Schneider Heim posted:I just read the news about Ellis and it's just dawning that my favorite Batman story of all time (the Planetary/Batman crossover) was written by a serial predator. Don't worry, that just means you haven't read Judgement on Gotham yet. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Jedit posted:Don't worry, that just means you haven't read Judgement on Gotham yet. Absolutely not the time or place for whatever this is.
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ImpAtom posted:[Avellone's] also worked on comics as well so I guess it belongs here. Did he? I think I entirely missed that part of things. This is totally after his "I'm post-Obsidian and leaping from consult to consult" era, isn't it?
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