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Lemniscate Blue posted:*sniff* Good, good, much better. Now you need a soliloquy about your breasts and how they compare to every other woman's breasts, make it like a few minutes.
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*67 page spanking montage*
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Still better than tolkein tho
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Jun 19, 2020 03:45
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Good, good, much better. Now you need a soliloquy about your breasts and how they compare to every other woman's breasts, make it like a few minutes. Fifty bucks, same as in town.
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Jun 19, 2020 03:48
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Lemniscate Blue posted:Fifty bucks, same as in town. 
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I'm so glad that about half the text on fandom page for the Brakiri is dedicated to how they reproduce. That's definitely what I needed to know from that.
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Jun 19, 2020 03:49
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ultrafilter posted:I'm so glad that about half the text on fandom page for the Brakiri is dedicated to how they reproduce. That's definitely what I needed to know from that. Nerds. Nerds never change
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Jun 19, 2020 04:46
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Babylon 5: Brakiri Sexual Reproduction Fanwiki Page
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Lemniscate Blue posted:In the novel trilogy, it's eventually revealed that It's been a long time since I read those books, and I may be misremembering, but the inner circle of the Technomages knew that, but the rest did not. Also, much like how other beings were forced to drive the ships, the Shadows would put a technomage inside of the Z'hadum planetary defense network. The technomage inside it during the show had essentially discovered a bug and choose to exercise it at just the right time to crash the system when Sheridan decided to pull his off stunt there.
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Jun 19, 2020 08:20
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ultrafilter posted:I'm so glad that about half the text on fandom page for the Brakiri is dedicated to how they reproduce. That's definitely what I needed to know from that. They had a 500-word quota, and half of what we know about the Brakiri is that they're called the Brakiri.
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Jun 19, 2020 08:44
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Doctor Zero posted:You guys seriously don't think that ren fest geeks given the technology would be like that? So Marcus is a theatre geek with special forces training and Technomages are ren faire geeks with nanotech access. That tracks.
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In other news, having finished a complete watch for the first time and feeling an itch for more, I went through all the movies (mostly good) and Crusade (mostly bad) and now I’m on another rewatch. Just finished The War Prayer.
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I'm apprehensive about a Crusade rewatch since I mostly liked it the first time around but I'm not sure Peter Woodward and Captain Lumbergh can prop it up this time...
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Small White Dragon posted:It's been a long time since I read those books, and I may be misremembering, but the inner circle of the Technomages knew that, but the rest did not. See, this sort of poo poo is why I can never get behind the whole "The Vorlons were just as bad as the Shadows" thing. You don't see them going around grinding up sentients to make their ships or forcing sobbing captives to be their wetware CPUs. The Vorlons are dicks but the Shadows were actively malicious.
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Polaron posted:See, this sort of poo poo is why I can never get behind the whole "The Vorlons were just as bad as the Shadows" thing. You don't see them going around grinding up sentients to make their ships or forcing sobbing captives to be their wetware CPUs. The Vorlons are dicks but the Shadows were actively malicious. But on the other hand, the Shadows show at least some intent of making the younger races grow through conflict while the Vorlons just want the younger races to do as they're told. So the question becomes: which is worse, barbarism or fascism?
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Polaron posted:See, this sort of poo poo is why I can never get behind the whole "The Vorlons were just as bad as the Shadows" thing. You don't see them going around grinding up sentients to make their ships or forcing sobbing captives to be their wetware CPUs. The Vorlons are dicks but the Shadows were actively malicious. They have different methods to be sure, and the Vorlons are a lot less bloodthirsty, but they are still huge jerks. Which situation would be worse - someone who capriciously kills the weakest ants in the colony, or someone who manipulates them to be seen as a god and bend them to their will? Both are abhorrent, but one involves less loss of life. Some people may see the former as better since, the ones left are stronger. I'm sure I mentioned before but on Usenet about the beginning of S3 when the show was airing, the conversation veered into speculation about why the Shadows do what they do. JMS predicted that when the true motives of both sides were revealed, about 30% of the viewing audience would actually side with the Shadows. Everyone said that there is no way anyone would agree with the Shadows. And then lo and behold, after the season ended, it was drat near 30% of the posters actually did agree with the Shadows' philosophy. Doctor Zero fucked around with this message at 14:03 on Jun 19, 2020 |
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S4 spoilers: The Vorlons are the ones who started destroying planets to eradicate any trace of Shadow influence. The Shadows start retaliating because they clearly can’t be seen as incapable of the same feat, but they must be miserable about it because it undermines their philosophy. From the Vorlon perspective, destroying an inhabited planet with billions of people to kill one Shadow-tainted person is justified.
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Narsham posted:S4 spoilers: The Vorlons are the ones who started destroying planets to eradicate any trace of Shadow influence. The Shadows start retaliating because they clearly can’t be seen as incapable of the same feat, but they must be miserable about it because it undermines their philosophy. From the Vorlon perspective, destroying an inhabited planet with billions of people to kill one Shadow-tainted person is justified. Sure, but The Shadows started moving directly and openly after the attack on Za'Ha'Dum, which they clearly saw as influenced by the Vorlons (and the White Star has Vorlon tech). The Vorlons went fairly insane after Kosh was killed. That's not really either sides' normal MO and they just went WHY YOU THROW CHIP? loving COME ON THEN!
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Not sure why we need to spoiler tag this but I won't be a dick by accident The Vorlons have no qualms about genetically modifying and practically enslaving individuals to serve them and their needs (eg Sebastian, Lyta) and modifying entire species to naturally view them as divine and a turning a significant subset into living weapons.
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Also I don't think Vorlons being bad means Shadows are good. They're both dicks. Hence why they need to get the hell out of our galaxy, both of you.
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I thought the first to break the pact were the Vorlons, for organizing the first Shadow war to get the Shadows out of the picture. And then once again, the Vorlons wanted to keep their involvement in the new Shadow war secret until Kosh was moved by his own empathy.Polaron posted:See, this sort of poo poo is why I can never get behind the whole "The Vorlons were just as bad as the Shadows" thing. You don't see them going around grinding up sentients to make their ships or forcing sobbing captives to be their wetware CPUs. The Vorlons are dicks but the Shadows were actively malicious. We see at least one human that the Vorlons abducted for their own purposes, and it's not implausible for the Vorlons' organic technology to have similar basis. I always saw the Technomage messing with Londo as more just messing with the circuitry and devices that were already there in his room, but if he was using an ancient shadow artifact, that would definitely qualify as mystic-enough. Further splitting the Shadows and Vorlons on the basis of what kind of technology they use is also interesting, although the dichotomy of organic vs. inorganic technology is one of those silly sci-fi distinctions that has no bearing on the real world.
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IIRC the pact was just that the Vorlons and Shadows wouldn't attack each other directly. It's fine for the Vorlons to organize the younger races as long as they don't fire any shots.
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ultrafilter posted:IIRC the pact was just that the Vorlons and Shadows wouldn't attack each other directly. It's fine for the Vorlons to organize the younger races as long as they don't fire any shots. Yeah, that's the whole point. The Vorlons would organize and try to build alliances and societies that worked together directed by authority, and the Shadows would try to create chaotic environments where their preferred "strong rise to the top" client races would defeat the Vorlon clients.
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Y'all ranting about technomages yet y'all seemed to like the ubertech healing guillotine ps vorlons vs shadows neither are 'good' or 'bad' per se. They represent two polar opposite approaches to racial development for same goal. Vorlons are cooperative evolutionary approach and shadows are a conflictory (is that even a word?) competitive 'survival of the fittest' approach. It was said almost straight in some Loriel-Sheridan convo afair both vorlons and shadow lack any sense of morals and other kinds of philosophical fast food. They will do what it takes to do their thing. What are even morals if you are eternal and immortal and you have poor funny talking idiotic animals running around you biting each other. They will loving kill each other for a piece of bread, why care. You have a set goal to achieve, you use all possible resources period. Erulisse fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Jun 19, 2020 |
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AntherUslessPoster posted:Y'all ranting about technomages yet y'all seemed to like the ubertech healing guillotine That's because Rosen's machine was in itself neither good nor bad; it was the use you chose to put it to. Sure, you could go full Deathwalker and crank it up to full, taking one life to save another. But you could cure a wound with a bit of energy that would be replenished with time - and in fact that's what Rosen's records said it was used for; corporal punishment, not capital - or you could fix a more serious wound through several contributing volunteers. I just remembered the other thing I noticed in The Quality of Mercy: Rosen was struck off for abusing stims, trying to do more when she should have tried to do better. Franklin really doesn't learn from the mistakes of others, does he?
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Jedit posted:That's because Rosen's machine was in itself neither good nor bad; it was the use you chose to put it to. Sure, you could go full Deathwalker and crank it up to full, taking one life to save another. But you could cure a wound with a bit of energy that would be replenished with time - and in fact that's what Rosen's records said it was used for; corporal punishment, not capital - or you could fix a more serious wound through several contributing volunteers. Is using the machine as a form of capital punishment better or worse than the Death of Personality approach Earth takes? Discuss.
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Tsaedje posted:Not sure why we need to spoiler tag this but I won't be a dick by accident In the past new watchers would find their way to Sigma 957 and join us and we would watch and marvel. Now the younger races have founded their own society but we still keep traditions here.
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Doctor Zero posted:In the past new watchers would find their way to Sigma 957 and join us and we would watch and marvel. Now the younger races have founded their own society but we still keep traditions here. ZOG
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Tsaedje posted:ZOG Now that aged poorly.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Now that aged poorly. At some point you just have to accept a coincidence and move on.
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Midjack posted:At some point you just have to accept a coincidence and move on. When it comes to a conspiracy theory, you NEVER ACCEPT A COINCIDENCE
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Absurd Alhazred posted:When it comes to a conspiracy theory, you NEVER ACCEPT A COINCIDENCE You used the letter after g twice in your post, friend.
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Midjack posted:You used the letter after g twice in your post, friend. Who told you to say that?
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Edit: I went full eye-in-pyramid with the AA but this ain't the thread.
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Midjack posted:Edit: I went full eye-in-pyramid with the AA but this ain't the thread. PM me
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From the Blind Watch thread:The_Doctor posted:S2ep5 - The Long Dark Angry Salami posted:There's always been arguments in geek circles that Star Trek: Deep Space Nine was ripping off Babylon 5. For some reason, none of them ever hinge on the particularly damning evidence that both Dr. Franklin and Dr. Bashir have the same terrible medical ethics.
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You know I never thought about how both doctors are horndogs and really have a hard time with the whole doctor/patient relationship thing.
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Narsham posted:Is using the machine as a form of capital punishment better or worse than the Death of Personality approach Earth takes? Discuss. Worse. Death of personality is reversible.
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Re: stephen franklin in the Long Dark people seem to forget that he initiates a kiss and then goes "no no no we can't do this" like it's her fault
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Jedit posted:That's because Rosen's machine was in itself neither good nor bad; it was the use you chose to put it to. Sure, you could go full Deathwalker and crank it up to full, taking one life to save another. But you could cure a wound with a bit of energy that would be replenished with time - and in fact that's what Rosen's records said it was used for; corporal punishment, not capital - or you could fix a more serious wound through several contributing volunteers[/spoiler] The only thing we are left wondering is if it restores 'life essence' in 1:1 ratio or the giver loses more than the receiver takes. Jedit posted:Worse. Death of personality is reversible. They both are. Memory suppression is totally same purpose of making an individual 'restore' his criminal damages in form of a gratuitous work with no memory. The fact that ubertech guillotine can not kill and/or outright revive dead people (spoiler HELLO SUSAN) by sacrificing makes it a even (or maybe even a better?) thing tbqh. Even if the 'ratio' of life force is close to 0.5:1 they could have applied the 'futurama theorem' to it, keeping everyone alive and later use memory suppression for the case of psychotic maniacs that have to be contained.
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