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I think they're having elections about that at the moment.
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Ian Holm has passed away  https://www.theguardian.com/film/2020/jun/19/ian-holm-dies-alien-chariots-of-fire-bilbo-baggins?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
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Jun 19, 2020 12:42
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bessantj posted:Are Momentum a decent organisation? I did wonder if they should turn into a grass roots organisation that is outside the labour party campaigning on issues year round but then couldn't remember if they'd already done that. They started out like that, but then in response to a massive flap about 'entryism' they agreed to restrict themselves to Labour members. And yes, they are generally good people and the best Labour left group.
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OwlFancier posted:I think they're having elections about that at the moment. Oh dear me posted:They started out like that, but then in response to a massive flap about 'entryism' they agreed to restrict themselves to Labour members. Thanks for the info, I don't know how effective they were in the elections but I think they can be more effective if they're an all year round thing rather than a Labour party/election machine.
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Jun 19, 2020 12:57
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I think the constant election footing kind of put the kibosh on any wider plans as it did for the corbyn administration more generally.
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Jun 19, 2020 12:58
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The Momentum NCG elections have a lot of talking about democratising the org and links with the unions, but not much about improving the ability of the localised groups to actually organise their own campaigns or do other stuff, it's still very electoralist.
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Zalakwe posted:Fool you once, shame on them.... Do they count as unseated if they're replaced with other tories? The Lib Dems sound good, and Layla Moran honestly seems like a good generally leftist person. But the Lib Dems as an organisation are Liberal first, they will never back a socialist, reformist, nationalising government.
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Octolady posted:Ian Holm has passed away https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siDlSFjhNww
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I think the Lib Dem’s were so humiliated, as were anyone that voted for them, that they’re dead for the next decade atleast
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Jun 19, 2020 13:03
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Right that's my weekend sorted.
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bessantj posted:Are Momentum a decent organisation? I did wonder if they should turn into a grass roots organisation that is outside the labour party campaigning on issues year round but then couldn't remember if they'd already done that. I would be surprised if they had the funds for that really To give a sense of scale, Labour as an organisation had an annual income of about £45m (and expenditure of about the same) in 2018-2019 Momentum does not publish its finances but seems to raise a high of £300kish in 2019... this is less than 1% of the national party it sets out to shape. For perspective a high street kebab store can expect a larger turnover. It sets out to be more nimble and more obedient left-wing machine than can be expected from within the cumbersome Labour party apparatus itself, an answer to the Mandelson machine or the union power bases, and by those lights it has been massively successful, as measured by sending the candidates it backs to the NEC or by promoting favoured motions at Conference Community organising and year-round relationship building is a running theme of the Labour Together recommendations, so I expect it to crop up again this year. It's a perpetual siren call for the soft left (the hard left tends to interpret a more militant edge on it too), and nobody can really object, save with the quiet caveat of "... and please do whatever you're already passionately doing for free, whilst also being obediently whipped to whatever evolving position on Brexit or hot-button du jour that we have, thanks".
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Jun 19, 2020 13:06
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Not been following the UKMT for a few years, have I missed anything or is it still mostly Monster Munch chat.
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So what I get is Labour has purged anyone who actually did any work
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glitchkrieg posted:Not been following the UKMT for a few years, have I missed anything or is it still mostly Monster Munch chat. it's basically the same except pissflaps is gone and like seven of us are trans now
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I've got mixed feelings about Malala Yousafzai graduating. On the one hand, she's gone through some appalling things and is genuinely inspirational for many people. On the other hand, she studied PPE, ffs
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Angepain posted:it's basically the same except pissflaps is gone and like seven of us are trans now Can relate.
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ronya posted:I would be surprised if they had the funds for that really I suppose funds will be an eternal problem.
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glitchkrieg posted:Can relate. well may i be the first to say congratulations for having your pissflaps removed
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Angepain posted:well may i be the first to say congratulations for having your pissflaps removed 
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Angepain posted:well may i be the first to say congratulations for having your pissflaps removed And now I have chunks of skittle up my nose thanks.
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smart, if you put them up there whole they might get stuck
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XMNN posted:smart, if you put them up there whole they might get stuck I happen to know from empirical study that I can get a whole 50p into and out of my nose again.
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Jun 19, 2020 13:40
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Can you get a 50p into each nostril, and if so do a full set of pool balls drop out of your mouth (or somewhere else)?
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Guavanaut posted:Can you get a 50p into each nostril, and if so do a full set of pool balls drop out of your mouth (or somewhere else)? Probably, can't remember if I ever tried and also I don't want to experiment because I think the people at the hospital would literally murder me if I turned up at the moment.
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Jun 19, 2020 13:43
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As a result of this link, I've now found myself on this debate: "The trouble with this country is the Daily Mail" And good grief, I'm only on speaker 2 (speaking against the motion, from one of the DM's execs) and it's frankly quite entertaining to listen to the view across the immense chasm of perspective.
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Jun 19, 2020 13:44
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You've a stronger constitution than me because that sounds like it would have me reaching for the entire coin jar.
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What could the DM possibly say in their defence? That some people line their pets litter tray with the Daily Mail?
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I know I probably should have stopped following John Cleese on twitter a long time ago but he's currently going down the Gender Critical rabbithole and I don't need that in my timeline.
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I would probably put a small amount of money on something to the tune of "no and also if you think we're bad you're a loony lefty commulist"Mr Phillby posted:I know I probably should have stopped following John Cleese on twitter a long time ago but he's currently going down the Gender Critical rabbithole and I don't need that in my timeline. Definitely not helping the argument that transphobia isn't primarily a hobby for bored old gits.
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Mr Phillby posted:I know I probably should have stopped following John Cleese on twitter a long time ago but he's currently going down the Gender Critical rabbithole and I don't need that in my timeline. Cleese went full right wing on a number of topics years ago. Something something live long enough to become the villain.
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Lol the National Debt is over 100% of GDP I'm looking forward to hearing how the last Labour Government really hosed it on this one
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Mr Phillby posted:I know I probably should have stopped following John Cleese on twitter a long time ago but he's currently going down the Gender Critical rabbithole and I don't need that in my timeline. It's like when celebrities level up enough they get presented with a talent tree option, one branch of which is TERF and the other Anti-Vaxxer
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Angepain posted:well may i be the first to say congratulations for having your pissflaps removed Who said anything about having them removed. What was pissflap's reason for leaving? I'm assuming it wasn't voluntary. Mr Phillby posted:I know I probably should have stopped following John Cleese on twitter a long time ago but he's currently going down the Gender Critical rabbithole and I don't need that in my timeline. After Gilliam's lovely comments from a few years back, are any of the surviving Pythons ok?
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Mr Phillby posted:I know I probably should have stopped following John Cleese on twitter a long time ago but he's currently going down the Gender Critical rabbithole and I don't need that in my timeline. he's really doing the "i am just uninformed and genuinely asking questions" routine while pretty much exclusively responding and retweeting the gender criticals with responses that make it clear what his leanings are. dude you are not the first person to pretend to be curious as a way of hiding your obvious real opinions you've already finalised in your head, do you think we have not figured out how to see through this by now
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bessantj posted:What could the DM possibly say in their defence? That some people line their pets litter tray with the Daily Mail? Well, he kicks off by saying that the problem with this country is that it's not more like the Daily Mail. But long story short, their drive, ambition, success, tolerance, kindness, promotion of family values etc. Then my game finished downloading so I stopped there. But like I say, really quite an astonishing watch.
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glitchkrieg posted:Who said anything about having them removed. He got pulled up before the admiralty court and sentenced to a keelhauling. (Big huge transphobe and racist and the DnD moderation had a thread about what to do with him, it was great) https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3902758
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glitchkrieg posted:What was pissflap's reason for leaving? I'm assuming it wasn't voluntary. We had a democratic referendum and the will of the people was listened to
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glitchkrieg posted:What was pissflap's reason for leaving? I'm assuming it wasn't voluntary.
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Chain this poster to pissflaps. May they share the same fate. Cripes that thread was a riot.
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I still can't quite get over the fact Pissflaps considered himself engaging. Thanks for the Momentum voting advice, Spangly and Darth.
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