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Hellblazer187
Oct 12, 2003

1) saying "cum gutters" absolutely is different from saying "I find this wrestler attractive"

2) saying "I find this wrestler attractive" is completely unnecessary and adds very little to the discussion in the first place. So let's just not.

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MotU
Mar 6, 2007

It was like she was evicting walking garbage.
Pillbug

smarxist posted:

Man, I must have way differently calibrated sensibilities than I thought, because I'm pretty :chast2b: in general, and the AEW threads (only ones I really post in) have been pretty mild and have only really gotten weird/gross to the point of needing a corrective maybe a half dozen times.

Everyone stays pretty chill and positive, and most of the gawking at athlete bodies is confined to posting their own tweets or :swoon: or :stwoon: type stuff (less uhh, drooling over "cum gutters")

regardless, I want everyone to feel included and have fun posting, because GDTs are so fun and if people are feeling they can't hang that sucks, so yeah. it'd have to be a two-pronged approach to cleaning some stuff up, 1 is cultural shift and personal accountability, the other is moderator enforcement of obviously line crossing stuff, the first part is pretty easy and i feel most regulars are open to it, the latter sounds like it might be a problem :(

The horny is constant and pervasive. It isn't just innocent emotes and to try and frame it as that is disingenuous. Jordynne Grace, Hikaru Shida, Kota Ibushi, Anna Jay, Shazza McKenzie, and the list continues on and on of wrestlers who have had strings of posts just talking about their body and people being horned up over them

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
sorry if it seemed like I was trying to downplay it, that's what I mean by what my sensibilities are and what I feel it has amounted to versus what's actually going on. I can see how a more pervasive undercurrent can be intolerable.

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

The admin solution to this kind of thing is always just to add another mod. So everyone draw straws, I guess.

LionYeti
Oct 12, 2008


Honestly I think Would you Say this to their face is a good rule of thumb

Beef Jerky Robot
Sep 20, 2009

"And the DICK?"

As rooster teeth recently noticed the 2000s moderation attitude is very outdated

MorrisBae
Jan 18, 2020

by Athanatos
We're getting closer to a tweet about Quack...

https://twitter.com/dabryceisright/status/1274077493457235976

https://twitter.com/thecherryfox/status/1274082038493196290

Junpei Hyde
Mar 15, 2013




cams posted:

this is part of why i am completely open to the idea that my idea of how people wanna post on this forum is completely out of date, cause i had to think about whether or not that was true for a second. been posting here long enough that i used to pirate, among other things, pornography from torrents on this forum. i have accepted that my idea of how people wanna post is completely divorced from the modern reality.

please stop posting for the love of god

WatermelonGun
May 7, 2009

smarxist posted:

Everyone stays pretty chill and positive, and most of the gawking at athlete bodies is confined to posting their own tweets or :swoon: or :stwoon: type stuff (less uhh, drooling over "cum gutters")

it’s a difference of degrees and how you keep talking about bodies in this thread of all places is pretty weird there duder!


that link John Cena posted is a pretty good example of how lame this sub is. lecherous comments going unpunished and defended, Jerusalem telling people to “use the report button” as if that would do anything, and coconono posting his twitter constantly as if everyone should give a poo poo and now here we are, the town pervert felt emboldened enough to make a sketchy list, always a good thing on this website, and accuse a woman wrestler of threatening him in a thread about abuse.

Dango Bango
Jul 26, 2007

Junpei Hyde posted:

please stop posting for the love of god

Uhh...aren't you literally able to make this happen?

WatermelonGun
May 7, 2009

Junpei Hyde posted:

please stop posting for the love of god

use your loving buttons! what the gently caress!

MotU
Mar 6, 2007

It was like she was evicting walking garbage.
Pillbug

WatermelonGun posted:

it’s a difference of degrees and how you keep talking about bodies in this thread of all places is pretty weird there duder!


that link John Cena posted is a pretty good example of how lame this sub is. lecherous comments going unpunished and defended, Jerusalem telling people to “use the report button” as if that would do anything, and coconono posting his twitter constantly as if everyone should give a poo poo and now here we are, the town pervert felt emboldened enough to make a sketchy list, always a good thing on this website, and accuse a woman wrestler of threatening him in a thread about abuse.

Yeah one of the major reasons I stopped posting often tbh

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

WatermelonGun posted:

and how you keep talking about bodies in this thread of all places is pretty weird there duder!

gently caress off with this bullshit, addressing the content and what's being discussed and how is integral to any cultural changes

STING 64
Oct 20, 2006

Junpei Hyde posted:

please stop posting for the love of god

Stop the culture.

Junpei Hyde
Mar 15, 2013




Dango Bango posted:

Uhh...aren't you literally able to make this happen?

I would like them to just stop, and if they can do that I dont need to do anything else

cams
Mar 28, 2003


Junpei Hyde posted:

please stop posting for the love of god
lol for real, i am trying to be honest and have a dialogue about my behavior which i have admitted is wrong. doing my best to explain where i am coming from in an honest matter. if there's something wrong with how i'm posting then loving do something about it because i am at a loss. listen to the people who hate what i am saying and do something about it.

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Glass Punkbull 141
Jan 9, 2008

This is the face of a winner. This is what winning looks like.

Junpei Hyde posted:

I would like them to just stop, and if they can do that I dont need to do anything else

Clearly wishful thinking isn't working.

Edge & Christian
May 20, 2001

Earth-1145 is truly the best!
A world of singing, magic frogs,
high adventure, no shitposters

LionYeti posted:

Honestly I think Would you Say this to their face is a good rule of thumb
I think you have to consider who is asking themselves this, because "ha ha I got this wrestler to block me because I kept asking them to poo poo on my face" or whatever is a Posting Style that exists, though I also realize "posting on Twitter" != "actually saying it to their face", whether or not anyone would admit that.

Ganso Bomb
Oct 24, 2005

turn it all around

edit: derp

Shard
Jul 30, 2005

JOHN CENA posted:

I've been away from this forum for a few months now. The reason is because for a long time I found a lot of the posting in the AEW threads creepy and borderline disgusting. I brought up my concerns with it in the past here in this forum and was shouted down for it, the only person really seeing things from my perspective being yea ok. I went to the mod of this forum to talk about it, and he handwaved it saying he didn't see it as a problem. More months go by, it wasn't getting better so I PM'd the mod again, he said that he had never seen the hornyposting (which is a term i loving hate, it's just gross posts.) He said he never saw these posts and I should have been reporting the posts (I was) and PM'd him in the past (I definitely did) to show him there was a track record. I pointed out that I had done these things, and all he had to say was I should continue to report said posts, and the majority of the ones he did see were "tongue in cheek. So I went to the admins. They said the mod's defense was that the posting was a "time honored in joke" that the other mod of this forum happens to enjoy and doesn't want to disrupt. I was flat out told if the mods don't want to stamp out the culture, the admins were not going to be stepping in. The most I could do was report posts, which clearly wasn't working since the admin told me they hadn't seen ANY reports from that thread. It was suggested to me that it might be better for me to find other places to post in, so I did. It actually killed a lot of my interest in wrestling. So I still post here on SA, I still like SA, but I can't even lurk in this forum without being creeped out.

I don't want anyone to go away. I don't want anyone demodded or anything. I just want the culture to change guys. I just want to be able to talk about wrestling without having to place half the posters on ignore vs having to endure a really gross environment.

Thank you for posting this. The posts in here are making me look at my past posts and behavior and I promise I will be better. I am sorry to anyone who felt uncomfortable to post here. Also if me not posting here would make people more comfortable I will happily leave because I love you guys and never wanted to hurt you.

WatermelonGun
May 7, 2009

smarxist posted:

gently caress off with this bullshit, addressing the content and what's being discussed and how is integral to any cultural changes

no it’s just you justifying your own perversions and downplaying your own contribution to the problem.

Hopkins FBI
Jan 4, 2015

MY SACRED POSTING VOW IS NOTHING, FOR WHILE I STAKED MY HONOR UPON MY COMMITMENT TO NEVER SUPPORT JOSEPH R. B. JUNIOR I HAVE SCANDALOUSLY ABANDONED MY PRINCIPLES

Junpei Hyde posted:

I would like them to just stop, and if they can do that I dont need to do anything else
It seems pretty obvious that they can't!

Huntman
Apr 22, 2010



The fact that Quack's a fairly well documented weird rear end in a top hat and seems to be known by a good chunk of people yet nothing's been done about it is weird. I don't know if he's a sex pest, but have heard of some rumors about bullying early on in the days of CHIKARA's wrestling school.

Ganso Bomb
Oct 24, 2005

turn it all around


I really hope this is the worst thing Bryce has ever done because I don't want to believe he's an actual loving monster, too.

Junpei Hyde
Mar 15, 2013




I gave them the smallest hurdle and they couldn;t clear even that.

Anyway clearly the way I was treating horny posting was bad and made a lot of people super uncomfortable and I sincerely apologise for that and will try and stamp down on that going forward.

StarkRavingMad
Sep 27, 2001


Yams Fan
(edit) nevermind, it;s not worth it

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

cams was trolling or impossibly dumb, either of which should take a break from this thread for a while.

STING 64
Oct 20, 2006

Junpei Hyde posted:

I gave them the smallest hurdle and they couldn;t clear even that.

Anyway clearly the way I was treating horny posting was bad and made a lot of people super uncomfortable and I sincerely apologise for that and will try and stamp down on that going forward.

It absolutely was. Do better.

MotU
Mar 6, 2007

It was like she was evicting walking garbage.
Pillbug
Anything would be better than "unilaterally allowing it" so you also have the smallest hurdle to clear

Chromatic
Jan 21, 2005

You guys ready to hear a satanic song?
Someone should accuse Orange Cassidy of sexual misconduct and the proof just being a blank Twitter DM screenshot

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History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




Not gonna lie, it feels strangely relieving to see so many people come out and say that they also find the creepy bullshit too much.

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RealityWarCriminal
Aug 10, 2016

:o:

cams posted:

lol for real, i am trying to be honest and have a dialogue about my behavior which i have admitted is wrong. doing my best to explain where i am coming from in an honest matter. if there's something wrong with how i'm posting then loving do something about it because i am at a loss. listen to the people who hate what i am saying and do something about it.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

you do not need to explain where you are coming from. you have said you would try to improve and that's good and I honestly hope that you do. we all have things we can work on. i do too.

Amp
Sep 10, 2010

:11tea::bubblewoop::agesilaus::megaman::yoshi::squawk::supaburn::iit::spooky::axe::honked::shroom::smugdog::sg::pkmnwhy::parrot::screamy::tubular::corsair::sanix::yeeclaw::hayter::flip::redflag:

Chromatic posted:

Someone should accuse Orange Cassidy of sexual misconduct and the proof just being a blank Twitter DM screenshot

kind of hosed up

Alaois
Feb 7, 2012

Chromatic posted:

Someone should accuse Orange Cassidy of sexual misconduct and the proof just being a blank Twitter DM screenshot

great joke

STING 64
Oct 20, 2006

Chromatic posted:

Someone should accuse Orange Cassidy of sexual misconduct and the proof just being a blank Twitter DM screenshot

Not here please.

Abroham Lincoln
Sep 19, 2011

Note to self: This one's the good one



Chromatic posted:

Someone should accuse Orange Cassidy of sexual misconduct and the proof just being a blank Twitter DM screenshot

what if they didn't do this because joking about this is dumb and bad, like this post

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Chromatic posted:

Someone should accuse Orange Cassidy of sexual misconduct and the proof just being a blank Twitter DM screenshot

Read the room for fucksake.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Chromatic posted:

Someone should accuse Orange Cassidy of sexual misconduct and the proof just being a blank Twitter DM screenshot

How about no.

WatermelonGun
May 7, 2009

StarkRavingMad posted:

I haven't seen him say anything perverted and discussing the parameters about what is and isn't acceptable seems appropriate

you seem a little overly hostile

the thread is about abusive wrestlers and he keeps talking about he just wants to admire wrestler’s bodies and how he wants to do that in a nice way. its weird. also he posted a gigantic ban me screed a while ago and yet is still here, posting like a dipshit without any integrity. gently caress him, and gently caress you too.

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Huntman
Apr 22, 2010


Chromatic posted:

Someone should accuse Orange Cassidy of sexual misconduct and the proof just being a blank Twitter DM screenshot

:chloe:

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