Tesseraction posted:

I don't remember that happening? I just remember him calling people bitch and the r-slur before he decided to retire the latter after admitting that casual ableism wasn't right.

Reclines Obesily posted:

remember when ben shapiro accidentally fell into a debate on bbc television and fled in tears after 8 minutes

good times

Jose posted:

curious she's got fans like this isn't it

https://twitter.com/SamSacks/status/1273940158467932161?s=20

Azathoth posted:

It goes straight to their entire reason for existing.

The pitch of the DEBATE ME crowd is that they, and by extension their fans, are intellectually superior to leftists. Whereas leftists are entirely driven by unexamined, logically contradictory emotions, they have come to their beliefs via clear-eyed scientific examination and concluded entirely by logic that they are right.

They build this up with excruciatingly long videos that couch everything they do in logical terms, complete with mock attacks for what leftists would say, and a thorough refutation of said points.

This works pretty well when the only people who want to "debate" them are randos crashing their livestream or yelling at them on social media. They're decent at deflecting or burying them in bullshit until the person gets bored/frustrated and leaves. Their fans mistake this for being good at debate.

It all falls apart when they agree to debate on a platform where they don't have control or at least the ability to unilaterally disengage. As one would expect, they're committing some pretty basic logical errors in constructing their worldview, and someone skilled enough at debate to push through their bluster and bullshit can make them look like absolute idiots pretty quickly.

Looking foolish is, to a fash personality, the ultimate sin. Their fans are braying jackals who hate weakness (because they know that they are weak and so hate it above all else), so seeing their avatar humiliated publicly gives the fans no choice but to turn on them.

The true believers aren't self aware enough to know that they're going to get destroyed, but grifters like Styx know that they'll get destroyed so they will do everything they can to avoid those kind of debates.

StashAugustine posted:

Glad that came out before I actually watched him lol

miniscule12 posted:

https://twitter.com/high_define/status/1265033650464329730

Sestze posted:

he fell into a softball interview with Andrew Neil, one of the most conservative voices in the UK, who asked him very easy to answer questions that Shapiro melted down about and took off halfway through in a huff, accusing Neil of being a liberal. Questions that weren't misleading or trapping Ben, he just had to answer consistently, and Neil would've nodded along.

Instead he had a meltdown.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRF3r3zUGqk

Shapiro hasn't been anywhere close to an actual debate, ever.

goatsestretchgoals posted:

Reclines Obesily posted:

https://twitter.com/Styx666Official/status/1261057912232869890

https://twitter.com/Styx666Official/status/1261059301839437829

sargon video dont click just look at the funny picture

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v48fzR47RQs


so all the youtube alt right debate lords have decided ”debate bad” around a month ago, complaining about astro turfed lefties targeting them for harassment. oh how the turn tables

the real reason is left wing creators are big on youtube now their videos cant be brigaded and mass flagged away when sargon etc loses a debate

Mr Interweb posted:

can somebody explain wtf she's trying to say. i'm not entirely fluent in aiemeese yet

Spergin Morlock posted:

i once accidentally clicked a styxhexenhammer666 video and made it about 30 seconds in. that guy is dumb as gently caress. aggressively stupid

Reclines Obesily posted:

does a stupid person have this many books

Reclines Obesily posted:

lauren southern made a new video, she needs money is back and now a “centrist”

the comments are full of nazis accusing her of being jewish, employing a gay camera crew, feeding info to antifa, sleeping with trans women and ratting out the location of tommy robinson among other sins

one great commenter was wondering if candace owens is also a grifter

Mr Interweb posted:

sure, but how many of those people are going to jump ship? i figure 95% (minimum) of their audience still stick with them, even if they literally poo poo themselves on stream. when sargon debated kristi winters, he did such a lovely job that even his fanbase poo poo on him for both being a terrible debater and being unfair to her. yet did he wind up shutting down his youtube channel? no. in fact, he wound up getting hundreds of thousands of additional subscribers in the following years.

and really, when HAS a debate ever resulted seriously damaging a rightwinger? bill o'reilly, sean hannity, tucker carlson, ben shapiro, stefan molyneux, and all of these dipshits wound up debating intelligent leftists at some point, and sure, they may have gotten a bit of humiliation and some sound bites for lefty outlets, but every single one of them got more popular as time went on.

i listen to these debates cause i'm a sick gently caress, but i've long gotten past the point where i thought anything remotely useful could come out of having them.

Mr Interweb posted:

can somebody explain wtf she's trying to say. i'm not entirely fluent in aiemeese yet

Ugato posted:

she’s just saying people only dislike bari Weiss because she’s a woman

if you’re wanting a translation of her motives, it’s hard to say and nobody’s going to waste time trying to figure out what’s going on in her head because she’s so obfuscating and full of poo poo all the time.

she’s antagonistic toward leftists and doesn’t seem to mind the attention of the alt right, so at the very least she’s falling in with the “leftists are meanies” crowd sliding into being a Nazi because she says dumb poo poo and people call her on it

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

lauren southern is back and is centrist now

Reclines Obesily posted:

does a stupid person have this many books

Flesh Forge posted:

feels like a slight variation on dave rubin's very successful posting gimmick

Sestze posted:

he fell into a softball interview with Andrew Neil, one of the most conservative voices in the UK, who asked him very easy to answer questions that Shapiro melted down about and took off halfway through in a huff, accusing Neil of being a liberal. Questions that weren't misleading or trapping Ben, he just had to answer consistently, and Neil would've nodded along.

Instead he had a meltdown.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRF3r3zUGqk

Shapiro hasn't been anywhere close to an actual debate, ever.

Reclines Obesily posted:

does a stupid person have this many books

Mr Interweb posted:

can somebody explain wtf she's trying to say. i'm not entirely fluent in aiemeese yet

Jose posted:

Rubin had the good sense to not go full nazi

Reclines Obesily posted:

does a stupid person have this many books

BraveUlysses posted:

peak male physique right here

Heath posted:

Speaking of, has The Golden One stroked out yet? Haven't seen much of him around in a long time

quote:

The withdrawal of $475,000 in cash by the man who killed 22 Nova Scotians in April matches the method the RCMP uses to send money to confidential informants and agents, sources say.

Gabriel Wortman, who is responsible for the largest mass killing in Canadian history, withdrew the money from a Brink’s depot in Dartmouth, N.S., on March 30, stashing a carryall filled with hundred-dollar bills in the trunk of his car.

According to a source close to the police investigation the money came from CIBC Intria, a subsidiary of the chartered bank that handles currency transactions.

Sources in both banking and the RCMP say the transaction is consistent with how the RCMP funnels money to its confidential informants and agents, and is not an option available to private banking customers.

The RCMP has repeatedly said that it had no “special relationship” with Wortman.

Court documents show Wortman owned a New Brunswick-registered company called Berkshire-Broman, the legal owner of two of his vehicles (including one of his police replica cars). Whatever the purpose of that company, there is no public evidence that it would have been able to move large quantities of cash. Wortman also ran his own denturist business and there is no reason to believe it also would require him to handle large amounts of cash.

If Wortman was an RCMP informant or agent, it could explain why the force appeared not to take action on complaints about his illegal guns and his assault on his common-law wife.


A Mountie familiar with the techniques used by the force in undercover operations, but not with the details of the investigation into the shooting, says Wortman could not have collected his own money from Brink’s as a private citizen.

“There’s no way a civilian can just make an arrangement like that,” he said in an interview.

He added that Wortman’s transaction is consistent with the Mountie’s experience in how the RCMP pays its assets. “I’ve worked a number of CI cases over the years and that’s how things go. All the payments are made in cash. To me that transaction alone proves he has a secret relationship with the force.”

A second Mountie, who does not know the first one but who has also been involved in CI operations, also believes that Wortman’s ability to withdraw a large sum of money from Brink’s is an indication that Wortman had a link with the police. “That’s tradecraft,” the Mountie said, explaining that by going through CIBC Intria, the RCMP could avoid typical banking scrutiny, as there are no holds placed on the money.

“That’s what we do when we need flash money for a buy. We don’t keep stashes of money around the office. When we suddenly need a large sum of money to make a buy or something, that’s the route we take. I think [with the Brink’s transaction] you’ve proved with that single fact that he had a relationship with the police. He was either a CI or an agent.”

A Canadian retail banking expert speaking on condition that they not be identified says it is unlikely that Wortman was cashing out his own savings when he collected the money from Brinks after the money was transferred from CIBC Intria.

“When you come into my branch and you want a ton of cash, then I say, you gotta give us a couple of days. We put in our Brink’s order, I order the money through Brink’s, then when the money arrives, you come back into the branch, I bring you into a back room and I count the money out for you,” the banking expert said. “Sending someone to Brink’s to get the money? I’ve never heard of that before. The reason is, if I’m the banker, and you’ve deposited your savings in my bank branch, I’m responsible for making sure the money goes to the right person. If you want this money, I’m going to verify your identity and document that. I can’t do that if I’m transferring the money to Brink’s.”

In response to detailed questions from Maclean’s about the transaction, a CIBC spokesperson replied via email: “Our hearts and thoughts are with the families and the entire community as they deal with this senseless tragedy and loss. Unfortunately we are not able to comment on specific client matters.” Brinks and CIBC Intria did not reply to questions about the transaction.

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

lauren southern is back and is centrist now

An insane mind posted:

Is the Golden One that nazi version of Marvel's Thor that wants to be a viking and does a lot of...suggestive photoshoots? Or is that a different one I'm thinking of?

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

lauren southern is back and is centrist now