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SirPhoebos posted:Be sure to dismantle the HRE. It'll markedly reduce the AE you take from expanding, and it'll let you have an Empire tier government. As Prussia you're going to need every bonus to Admin Cap you can get. Yeah I just did some wars against Saxony and Bohemia and got them to release as much poo poo as they could. Need to get them small enough to force annex.
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Is it viable to play France without playing the colony game?
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Jun 20, 2020 00:22
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Is it viable to play France without playing the colony game? Absolutely. You even get mission PU on Spain now, just let those fuckers do it.
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Jun 20, 2020 00:28
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Was considering an Austria run, had a few questions: 1. Can you hold Rome as the HRE tag without penalties? 2. Does the expand empire CB work yet? 3. Do you still need to just win any war against the Italian nations to add them to the HRE during the shadow kingdom incident?
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Jun 20, 2020 02:14
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How do you become emperor of the HRE? im doing a solo run as the pope and, while all the electors like me well enought they dont want to vote for me. Im assuming there is some logic to this that Im missing.
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Jun 20, 2020 05:16
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AnEdgelord posted:How do you become emperor of the HRE? Theocracies and republics can’t be emperor
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Jun 20, 2020 05:23
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skasion posted:Theocracies and republics can’t be emperor Solves that problem I guess, out of curiosity though what is the logic though? Just make all the electors like you?
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Jun 20, 2020 05:25
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AnEdgelord posted:Solves that problem I guess, out of curiosity though what is the logic though? Just make all the electors like you? On the elector screen it gives you a points breakdown of what factors are influencing their vote. Relations, Alliance, Prestige, DipRep are the main ones
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if you hover over the score or the shield or something i forget it breaks it down. it's just a point system and the big positives are like relations, big country, big country in the empire, marriage, imperial authority, uh prestige, dip rep. any vassalized elector will usually vote for you the big negatives are not being in the empire to begin with, having an elector as a vassal, too small
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You also need to be in Europe, or at least you used to, idk if they changed that
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Jun 20, 2020 05:29
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Absolutely. You even get mission PU on Spain now, just let those fuckers do it. it's worth noting that once a country becomes a subject they'll stop sending colonists out, except for colonial nations. This means you should wait for them to establish a bunch of colonial nations before enforcing a claim on their throne. edit: never mind, this is wrong Dr. Video Games 0031 fucked around with this message at 08:18 on Jun 20, 2020 |
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Jun 20, 2020 05:36
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i think it's that exploration/expansion becomes weighted with a x0 chance of being taken once they're subjects. if they have it before subjection they'll be fine
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Jun 20, 2020 05:42
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oddium posted:i think it's that exploration/expansion becomes weighted with a x0 chance of being taken once they're subjects. if they have it before subjection they'll be fine Oh, you're right. I haven't noticed France doing any colonizing in my campaign after I PUed them but I just checked and they are colonizing some random island in the carribean. They're just slow because they've been in debt a lot and haven't taken exploration.
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Jun 20, 2020 06:26
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Ottoman's in my game having 7777 ducats in debt unlocks mega over powered mode like it's FF7 right?
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Jun 20, 2020 08:12
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oddium posted:i think it's that exploration/expansion becomes weighted with a x0 chance of being taken once they're subjects. if they have it before subjection they'll be fine Subjects do sometimes take Expansion, though. Happened in an Aragon game where I got the Iberian Wedding early; Castile took Expansion and went hog wild in Africa, got way too many provinces for the "form Spain" decision.
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Jun 20, 2020 11:10
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skasion posted:Theocracies and republics can’t be emperor I wish there was a reform that removed that requirement.
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Jun 20, 2020 11:35
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extremely over this. come on 
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Jun 20, 2020 15:10
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Did the hotfix really not fix the Ducat bug?
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Jun 20, 2020 15:11
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Happy to report the HRE is no more. Turns out just occupying an elector during a war was enough for them to not count as independent so after having 4 as vassals / myself and Saxony occupied I decided to no CB Fererra which was an elector allied to the other elector I didn't control and this of course pulled in the emperor, Milan. Was pretty easy after that. I think I wasted a lot of time making this harder than it had to be with my attempts to vassalize.
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Jun 20, 2020 15:21
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Did the hotfix really not fix the Ducat bug? I've yet to see the bug myself. Also, missing the King of Jerusalem achievement by 10 years ruined my day. Still got On The Rhodes Again, but that just feels like a consolation prize.
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Jun 20, 2020 15:38
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Did the hotfix really not fix the Ducat bug? It sure didn't
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Jun 20, 2020 16:08
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if something is worth doing do it with all your heart 
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Jun 20, 2020 17:07
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Did the hotfix really not fix the Ducat bug? Nope. You gotta stay under 75% WS if you want you full $
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Jun 20, 2020 18:08
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oddium posted:if something is worth doing Apparently there's a monastic order breweries government reform, and if you take it the government name changes to like "brewmaster order" or something.
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Jun 20, 2020 19:08
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 Why doesnt "Show Strength" count as the Age Objective of Humiliating a Rival?
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Jun 20, 2020 19:24
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:
Because you didn't humiliate them.
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Jun 20, 2020 19:49
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oddium posted:extremely over this. come on I mean, it says probably right there...
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MrBling posted:Because you didn't humiliate them. It really feels like it should count, but it never has. It's kinda lame since it's the option you definitely want to pick in a humiliation war. I usually end up fulfilling the humiliate rival objective by coincidence when one of my rivals is allied to someone I'm declaring war on and I can separate peace them.
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Jun 20, 2020 20:27
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MrBling posted:Because you didn't humiliate them. Dr. Video Games 0031 posted:It really feels like it should count, but it never has. It's kinda lame since it's the option you definitely want to pick in a humiliation war. I usually end up fulfilling the humiliate rival objective by coincidence when one of my rivals is allied to someone I'm declaring war on and I can separate peace them.
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Jun 20, 2020 20:37
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Better yet just replace humiliate with show strength. Humiliate is never preferable
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Formed Germany for the first time finally, around 1700 but Austria ended up owning all of France so they still have nearly twice my dev and Spain turned god tier, so this might end being a campaign that is still fun into the end game. Gonna go for dismantling, getting the achievement for crushing the revolution if possible, and then see what else I can get with my op prussian monarchy germany.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Did the hotfix really not fix the Ducat bug? they apparently figured it out afterwards
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I haven't played a real game for a while. Now I have a game as Landshut -> Bavaria and there seems to have been a change to the combat AI. In many of my wars the AI just let me siege down their forts and stay the hell away from me. And if I get even remotely close to one of their armies sieging they abandon the siege super quick. And it is not like I outnumber them massively either. I have won many wars in this last game without even having a fight. Even France was pussies and stayed in the southwestern corner while I sieged down their forts. I remember the game being more fun than this.
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I assume it's an attempt to fix how easy it was to bait stacks onto your forts and wiping them because they almost never stopped sieges after they started them.
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Formed Italy as Milan and it's pretty cool but most (all?) of the Italian mission tree requires you to directly own provinces to complete missions rather than have vassals own them, which is kind of annoying given that for most mission trees "owned by player or player vassal" is the standard. Had to integrate my Croatian vassal just to finish a mission, and I'm gonna have to integrate and re-release my Algerian march just to trigger the mission that gives me claims on Egypt. Milan also has a really great mission that upgrades ALL of the forts you have built in the alpine passes, ignoring all tech requirements for building those forts. I had a bunch of level 4 forts about 100 years before I was supposed to.
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Cynic Jester posted:I assume it's an attempt to fix how easy it was to bait stacks onto your forts and wiping them because they almost never stopped sieges after they started them. Yes that is probably one part of it. But still they should try to break my sieges. As an example when I was sieging down France I had 3 sieges running in different parts and if he concentrated his forces he could defeat me in one area at a time. Back in the day I remember France combining all their forces into a doomstack and just running around fighting all the armies in their lands one at a time. Doesn't do that anymore in this one game example. I can't remember any other nations doing it either in this game. Effectively combining forces. Maybe it is because they really don't like to take attrition now? Hryme fucked around with this message at 23:19 on Jun 20, 2020 |
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Tried a game with Austria. It seems you now get a permanent(!) malus to your relations with the electors if you don't vote with the majority in the Diet? I guess that means if you want to be emperor you have no choice but to vote for whatever the AI picked in majority when there is an imperial incident? I hosed a game bad by not noticing that earlier. Annoying considering I had just got done getting Milan, Bohemia and Hungary in a PU.
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Popoto posted:Tried a game with Austria. It seems you now get a permanent(!) malus to your relations with the electors if you don't vote with the majority in the Diet? I guess that means if you want to be emperor you have no choice but to vote for whatever the AI picked in majority when there is an imperial incident? I hosed a game bad by not noticing that earlier. Annoying considering I had just got done getting Milan, Bohemia and Hungary in a PU. It makes sense both as a game system and historically. As the emperor you can technically do whatever you want but if you go against the electors they're going to remember. Also, the joys of HRE AE 
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Hryme posted:Yes that is probably one part of it. But still they should try to break my sieges. As an example when I was sieging down France I had 3 sieges running in different parts and if he concentrated his forces he could defeat me in one area at a time. Back in the day I remember France combining all their forces into a doomstack and just running around fighting all the armies in their lands one at a time. Doesn't do that anymore in this one game example. I can't remember any other nations doing it either in this game. Effectively combining forces. Maybe it is because they really don't like to take attrition now?
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Firebatgyro posted:It makes sense both as a game system and historically. As the emperor you can technically do whatever you want but if you go against the electors they're going to remember. you'd be getting hit by that even without the HRE penalty no cb (as defender) for a bunch of provinces
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