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Jun 19, 2020 04:44
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Jun 19, 2020 04:44
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retail trading especially fintech bullshit is a criminal scam
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Jun 19, 2020 04:59
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other people posted:92% of clothes in europe are dried outdoors. no one has a dryer. I would absolutely line-dry my clothes if it wasn't in my lease that I wasn't allowed, and if it didn't reach absolute zero during the winter
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Jun 19, 2020 05:10
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Arcteryx Anarchist posted:retail trading especially fintech bullshit is a criminal scam Tell me more
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Jun 19, 2020 05:15
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Skinner should contest those charges on account of him not actually being her son. Tamsarian v. Skinner could set an important legal precedent
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Jun 19, 2020 09:09
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Failed Imagineer posted:Skinner should contest those charges on account of him not actually being her son. According to Marge when you take the name you take everything that came with it, including DNA.
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Jun 19, 2020 09:31
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I’m not up on post season 25 Simpson’s. Have they retconned Skinner from a Vietnam vet to a Gulf War vet? And then an Iraq war vet again in season 40? The good thing is we’ll never run out of wars to keep it current.
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Jun 19, 2020 09:35
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Is it really a retcon when the show doesn't have much of a continuity in the first place
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Jun 19, 2020 11:39
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The Nastier Nate posted:I’m not up on post season 25 Simpson’s. Have they retconned Skinner from a Vietnam vet to a Gulf War vet? And then an Iraq war vet again in season 40? That show needs to die already.
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Jun 19, 2020 13:13
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blatman posted:I would absolutely line-dry my clothes if it wasn't in my lease that I wasn't allowed, and if it didn't reach absolute zero during the winter We just use indoor drying racks in Europe in the winter, IKEA sells them for a few dollars. My house has bad humidity problems in winter though and I would kill for a good dryer. You can't buy the air dryers they have in the US here, only condenser models are available and they loving suck, they leave clothes so wrinkled that they are unwearable (even for a guy like me who doesn't give a poo poo). IAMKOREA has issued a correction as of 13:50 on Jun 19, 2020 |
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Jun 19, 2020 13:42
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Discord is popping up things telling me what a good job they're doing combatting white supremacy, and while their statement is pretty reasonable and actually comes out and takes a goddamn stance rather than facebook and twitter's wishy-washy free speech bullshit, I like this part:quote:We want the Discord team to reflect the diversity of society. Today we’re committing to: We'll hire someone in HR to nag the HR person, start an internship some time next year, and maybe hire A Black Guy to a leadership position when we feel like it.
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Jun 19, 2020 21:22
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I'll believe that they're doing something about fash on the platform when there are tonnes of butthurt fash screaming about censorship there.
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Jun 19, 2020 22:21
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Inceltown posted:I'll believe that they're doing something about fash on the platform when there are tonnes of butthurt fash screaming about censorship there. I think that happened way back in 2017 when someone at discord pulled up the corner of the rug and noticed a bunch of white nationalist cockroaches scurried out and went "oh heck": https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/15/technology/discord-chat-app-alt-right.html De-paywalled important part: quote:They posted swastikas and praised Hitler in chat rooms with names like “National Socialist Army” and “Führer’s Gas Chamber.” They organized last weekend’s “Unite the Right” rally in Charlottesville, Va., connecting several major white supremacy groups for an intimidating display of force. And when that rally turned deadly, with the killing of a 32-year-old counterdemonstrator, they cheered and discussed holding a gathering at the woman’s funeral. I do remember them whining about this at the time so  Bonus quote: quote:Partly, these are self-preservation instincts kicking in — no company wants to end up like Reddit 
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Jun 19, 2020 22:25
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Also while looking for people whining about it currently I instead found this dude from 6 months ago whining that people on a discord chat were big meanies who banned him just for saying gays are bad: https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/360055887512-Violation-of-my-freedom-of-speech-right quote:Hello, on one of the servers I was in, there was a discussion on the topic of orientation, without insulting anyone’s feelings and personality, but at the same time, they banned me on that server and said that I do not have the right to freedom of speech, and supposedly I do not have the right to speak on this topic, in fact, I see this as a gross violation of my human rights, that these people put themselves outside the law, and I would like measures to be taken in relation to them. 
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Jun 19, 2020 22:30
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Apparently they're butthurt enough about it that Gab made a Discord-like thing for them to use instead so that's... something... I guess... It apparently has end to end encryption, though now I'm very curious to know how well they actually implemented it because it's real hard to get right even if you know what you're doing...
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Jun 19, 2020 22:35
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Good to see that they've been banning some fash but ppj drama all came about because of fash on discord so banging pots about banning the egregious ones isn't going to convince me they're really doing much. As for gab discords end to end encryption they probably just mean it's https
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Jun 19, 2020 22:53
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Inceltown posted:Good to see that they've been banning some fash but ppj drama all came about because of fash on discord so banging pots about banning the egregious ones isn't going to convince me they're really doing much. They make a big deal about how it's not https because that's what discord uses and that's just to the server and theirs is better because it's full E2E, however I can't find anything anywhere actually talking about what it is or how it works and I sure as hell am not making a gab account to download and unpack the thing to find out
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Jun 19, 2020 23:14
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Hand rolled crypto 
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Jun 19, 2020 23:17
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1488-bit encryption
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Jun 19, 2020 23:26
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T-man posted:1488-bit encryption nice
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Jun 20, 2020 00:11
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Inceltown posted:Good to see that they've been banning some fash but ppj drama all came about because of fash on discord so banging pots about banning the egregious ones isn't going to convince me they're really doing much. Discord is very good about taking action when stuff is reported but weak on active monitoring. I wouldn't describe them as fash friendly but they could do better.
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Jun 20, 2020 01:11
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Gumball Gumption posted:Discord is very good about taking action when stuff is reported but weak on active monitoring. I wouldn't describe them as fash friendly but they could do better. I think they were explicitly expecting people to say that: quote:In 2019, more than half of the servers we removed for violent extremist content — many of which were white supremacist servers — were removed proactively by our team, before they were reported to us. We will keep increasing that number. In recent weeks, we have been monitoring our platform very closely to find and remove anyone seeking to use Discord to organize around violent extremism or disrupt protests. This actually sounds like a reasonable idea: quote:We will undertake a third-party audit by an organization active in researching the spread of hate and racism to observe how Discord works, how we enforce our policies, and to make recommendations for us to be more effective. And we’ll share what we learn so others in the industry can make use of their expertise. This, on the other hand, is classic technology solution for human problem bullshit: quote:We are investing significant engineering resources internally to develop software to find and manage abuse proactively. We commit to an open source strategy, which means other companies can benefit and build on what we learn. We hope this also inspires companies to release their tools so users can benefit across platforms. Anyway as far as big "social" companies go they seem to be handling things better than most, but yeah they have a waaaays to go
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Jun 20, 2020 01:20
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Probably hard for discord to ban the fash when it's a platform primarily used by gamers, of whom a good 30-50% are fash. Nice that they're banning open white supremacy tho I guess
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Jun 20, 2020 02:24
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Shame Boy posted:Also while looking for people whining about it currently I instead found this dude from 6 months ago whining that people on a discord chat were big meanies who banned him just for saying gays are bad: It's a Star Citizen Discord lmao How poo poo do you have to be to get kicked out of one of those.
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Jun 20, 2020 06:51
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thank u poppers vendor
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Jun 20, 2020 13:36
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The whole thing is good, but the good part starts around 2:50 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ylv1LyVWc-c
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Jun 20, 2020 14:58
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pretty sweet that my landlord called today and let us know that after 13 years and more than 300k of paying rent he's selling the house and we have 60 days to vacate and should be prepared to let strangers traipse covidly around our home loving guillotine
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Jun 21, 2020 01:24
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«thanks for paying my mortgage time to cash out»
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Jun 21, 2020 01:27
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Arcteryx Anarchist posted:«thanks for paying my mortgage time to cash out» like you mother fucker i haven't missed a rent payment and you haven't spent a loving cent on maintenance in 13 years. the least you could do is wait 6 months gently caress
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Jun 21, 2020 01:30
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boar guy posted:like you mother fucker i haven't missed a rent payment and you haven't spent a loving cent on maintenance in 13 years. the least you could do is wait 6 months Maybe the person he's selling to will be gracious enough to give you the same privilege of paying his mortgage, but at a higher rate and lower upkeep.
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boar guy posted:pretty sweet that my landlord called today and let us know that after 13 years and more than 300k of paying rent he's selling the house and we have 60 days to vacate and should be prepared to let strangers traipse covidly around our home I posted this in a discord I'm in and I have one irl friend defending this "But the landlord owns the property this is legal" "We don't know the open house is happening while he's still there and even if it is that's legal" "I don't know what your point is comparing this to me being unhappy my wife invited friends over without asking me" Edit: he's currently melting down because he's the only person who sees nothing wrong with this because it's in the landlord's legal rights Len has issued a correction as of 02:54 on Jun 21, 2020 |
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Jun 21, 2020 02:40
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Gumball Gumption posted:Discord is very good about taking action when stuff is reported but weak on active monitoring. I wouldn't describe them as fash friendly but they could do better. how could discord actively monitor? theres gotta be millions of servers
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Ramadu posted:how could discord actively monitor? theres gotta be millions of servers have you seen the tech that gets rolled out to protect copyright? if even a fraction of that was deployed to detect and ban the fash then there'd be nowhere for fash to go other than places that openly harbour them
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Jun 21, 2020 04:15
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bike tory posted:have you seen the tech that gets rolled out to protect copyright? if even a fraction of that was deployed to detect and ban the fash then there'd be nowhere for fash to go other than places that openly harbour them the copyright problem is a fair bit easier than shutting down the Proud Boys discord without also nuking Emily’s or whoever’s anti-racist groups, and still has a terrible rate of false positives _and_ negatives if they can stay on top of responding to reports effectively, which would be a first for social media and I’ll definitely be cheering for them, then the environment will become inhospitable pretty well anyway
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they don’t really build the tech to deal with hate and fascism in the first place so it’s harder to reel in later hell Facebook is basically built to be a hate engine at this point
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Subjunctive posted:the copyright problem is a fair bit easier than shutting down the Proud Boys discord without also nuking Emily’s or whoever’s anti-racist groups, and still has a terrible rate of false positives _and_ negatives I'm not a computer toucher by trade or anything but I'm pretty sure it's a shitload easier to train algorithms on text than it is on images or video. And no one expects it to be perfect, but the thing is most tech companies use the arguments that it'd be difficult or that it can't be done perfectly as reasons to not do any active monitoring at all. That's why the copyright protection comparison is valid IMO. Copyright protection certainly isn't easy either but they invest shitloads of resources in it and by now they have really advanced algorithms that are constantly developed to find the poo poo.
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trying to moderate all of discord is like trying to moderate all of irc. it makes absolutely zero sense also i don't know anybody who would willingly use an instant messaging service that was actively monitored by an algorithm or *anything* for that matter lol. nobody's asking AT&T to listen to all phone calls is an appropriate analogy, i think i dont know any actual solution to this but snooping directly isn't it thats for sure Syncopation has issued a correction as of 11:11 on Jun 21, 2020 |
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Len posted:I posted this in a discord I'm in and I have one irl friend defending this Legalism is a scum philosophy for bootlickers.
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