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Man, I miss that show. Darn you, Jeph Loeb.
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Jun 11, 2020 15:29
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dang, we coulda gotten xmen and a storyline where rogue takes carols powers?
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Jun 11, 2020 15:39
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I miss that show so bad
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Jun 11, 2020 16:54
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Is that Bill Foster???
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Jun 11, 2020 18:08
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EMH could have been Marvel's DCAU if they hadn't thrown it all away for nothing 
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good to see the harley quinn production crew doesnt think much of the chuds
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Kipo & The Age of Wonderbeasts came back and it is great.
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site posted:dang, we coulda gotten xmen and a storyline where rogue takes carols powers? Storm, Nightcrawler, and Wolverine all have the same symbol on the one side of their ribs.
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Jun 14, 2020 00:58
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Pretty sure that's the symbol on the suit of Guardian - leader of the Canadian Avengers knock-off Alpha Flight. Wonder if the other X-characters were even going to be mutants, what with the ip rights issues at the time.
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The WB youtube channel just ran a BTAS doc. It's about 1.5 hours long. It's a few years old, but still neat to watch. Kevin Conroy also was live tweeting during the live broadcast. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZLpDvQ6vFI https://twitter.com/RealKevinConroy
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Hey Chief posted:Pretty sure that's the symbol on the suit of Guardian - leader of the Canadian Avengers knock-off Alpha Flight. Wonder if the other X-characters were even going to be mutants, what with the ip rights issues at the time. I think marvel still fully owned the cartoon rights to X-Men, Wolverine had shown up in EMH already.
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Which explains why we haven't had an xmen cartoon in ten years (right? Or was it something else?).
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Yeah, the last full X-Men cartoon was Wolverine and the X-Men in 2009, although it got cancelled after one season. There was also a limited series of "Marvel Anime" (in conjunction with Madhouse) in 2011 about the X-Men, sandwiched in between a Wolverine solo series and one about Blade. Weird to think that the X-Men used to be Marvel's flagship title for about three solid decades.
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Fuego Fish posted:Yeah, the last full X-Men cartoon was Wolverine and the X-Men in 2009, although it got cancelled after one season. There was also a limited series of "Marvel Anime" (in conjunction with Madhouse) in 2011 about the X-Men, sandwiched in between a Wolverine solo series and one about Blade. There was also an Iron Man anime during that period
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drrockso20 posted:There was also an Iron Man anime during that period 
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drrockso20 posted:There was also an Iron Man anime during that period Please, Iron Manime.
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Fuego Fish posted:EMH could have been Marvel's DCAU if they hadn't thrown it all away for nothing
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FilthyImp posted:Love how it became "we can't have this non-MCU animated avengers!" despite, you know, being able to use the established show to get more fans or something. Honestly, given Loeb's track record, I wouldn't be surprised if his actual complaint was that it didn't suck enough.
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Lurdiak posted:Honestly, given Loeb's track record, I wouldn't be surprised if his actual complaint was that it didn't suck enough. Apparently Loeb did think kids were unable or unwilling to follow story arcs. So you're not wrong.
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Kinda hard to agree with that since the 90s X-Men cartoon had a bunch of story arcs and I followed them pretty well as a kid. It still has the best version of Apocalypse.
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Azubah posted:Kinda hard to agree with that since the 90s X-Men cartoon had a bunch of story arcs and I followed them pretty well as a kid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bmn6bjlw70
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Azubah posted:Kinda hard to agree with that since the 90s X-Men cartoon had a bunch of story arcs and I followed them pretty well as a kid. Sure, I know that kids can follow long-form storytelling and you know they can and everybody reading this knows they can but it's absolutely one of the reasons Loeb cited the shift to being episodic in EMH and also why the next Avengers show started out that way. (Although they did storylines later, I guess? I dunno, I tried watching it initially but it was kinda boring and joyless.)
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I'm not sure if X-Men was really designed to expect viewers to remember long-term storylines. A lot of the arcs were fairly short, and when something big was happening that relied on previous buildup, they'd recap all of it at the beginning. Of course, that wasn't because it was intended for kids, it was because long-term narratives were fairly rare on TV at the time, and shows in syndication would normally be expected to be aired in any sequence without trouble.
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Hell, 90s Spider-man had long-rear end chapters/arcs. Neogenic Nightmare felt like it went on forever. "Kids can't follow long stories!" Is just a cheap-rear end excuse to say "this won't make sense in syndication!"
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It's me. I was the dumb kid who couldn't follow the 10 episode long story arcs in Spider-Man. I was just happy to see the spandex men (and Black Cat) fight.
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The problem with episodes that tie together sequentially is that they actually have to be aired in the correct order and in the analog cable/broadcasting era the viewer needed to be able to catch the episodes when they air (though VCRs helped). The former thing didn't always happen, sometimes infamously so, and as much as any kid wants to always be there after school or Saturday morning to watch their fave shows life gets in the way. So the viewer can get pretty confused or miss things.
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I do kinda go back and forth on syndication shuffling though. Sometimes I kinda want to watch random episodes that might not be in order instead of always having to start from the beginning and move on through to the end. Obviously for complex long-term narratives, that's not the best way to do things, but still there's something to be said for the experience of coming into the middle of a story sometimes instead of meticulously watching from the beginning. A lot of shows take a while to find their legs.
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This is why you need the foolproof solution of PREVIOUSLY ON X-MEN https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-K1D8y_Pxs
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Does syndication still exist, even?
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Azubah posted:Kinda hard to agree with that since the 90s X-Men cartoon had a bunch of story arcs and I followed them pretty well as a kid. I really wonder if they had a separate writer just for Apocalypse's lines. The overwrought metaphors and self-entitled commentary were a treasure to behold. Nothing beat John Colicos chewing the scenery. He was Kor in DS9. I think that was his last real roll. 
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With it finally getting a BD release, how was the Legion cartoon? I have... fond memories, I think, but I also couldn't tell you much about it.
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Lurdiak posted:Does syndication still exist, even? Yes, just ask the zillion channels/networks running Big Bang Theory reruns
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A clip from the Harley Quinn cartoon showed up in my YouTube recs, and I decided to click it, and I was pleasantly surprised that it didn't seem to be the complete screaming mess that all the trailers made it out to be So I signed up for a trial of DC universe and watched the whole series in two days and absolutely loved it. Humor hits the right notes, it never feels like they're swearing just because they can, the storyline is dang solid, and all of the voice casting felt perfect. So while I've got this DC universe trial going, figured I'd catch up on some of the animated films I haven't seen. Currently watching Batman vs Robin and... I really hate both the character design and the voice acting. A quick glance at wikipedia suggests that the VA for Damian has basically become the go-to for Damian for the past five years, so uh, not looking forward to the rest of these. e: having Kevin Conroy as Thomas Wayne is a real kick in the knackers Sockser fucked around with this message at 05:18 on Jul 13, 2020 |
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Been Rewatching Batman Beyond. Man, he kills a lot of people.
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Sockser posted:A clip from the Harley Quinn cartoon showed up in my YouTube recs, and I decided to click it, and I was pleasantly surprised that it didn't seem to be the complete screaming mess that all the trailers made it out to be If you haven't watched the adaptations for Batman Year One and The Dark Knight Returns yet you really should, also it has very little to do with the source material besides a couple surface details but the movie for Gotham by Gaslight was pretty fun, and lastly the Fleischer Superman shorts are always worth revisiting
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Halloween Jack posted:Been Rewatching Batman Beyond. Man, he kills a lot of people. There’s something really upsetting about that show that I can’t put into words. Usually, there’s a sense that superheroes in kids’ cartoons have some foundation of safety they can work from, like they go out and fight the villains but can count on being safe in Wayne Manor or the bat cave or what have you. In Batman Beyond, the characters always seemed so vulnerable, like their villains were all-powerful and could just have them committed or kicked out of school or destroyed in any number of ways, and they were basically helpless to do anything about it. I remember feeling uneasy the whole time watching as a kid, as the show was about a child and an old man who were vulnerable at all times and had no protection. Maybe some of it is the amazing amount of body horror in the show, which kind of just extends to the honesty with which the show has about how when you get old, you just can’t do the things you used to do.
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:There’s something really upsetting about that show that I can’t put into words. Usually, there’s a sense that superheroes in kids’ cartoons have some foundation of safety they can work from, like they go out and fight the villains but can count on being safe in Wayne Manor or the bat cave or what have you. In Batman Beyond, the characters always seemed so vulnerable, like their villains were all-powerful and could just have them committed or kicked out of school or destroyed in any number of ways, and they were basically helpless to do anything about it. I remember feeling uneasy the whole time watching as a kid, as the show was about a child and an old man who were vulnerable at all times and had no protection. Batman Beyond rules and this is absolutely one of the reasons why. It actually commits to "dystopian cyberpunk future" in a way that isn't just set dressing for robots and lasers in a kids' show. Terry and Bruce's campaign against evil is anachronistic, outdated, a tiny spark of hope in a world where evil has already propagated itself to every level of society. They have no support system, no long-term plan, and even between the two of them, their bond of trust is tenuous and fraying, and you always get the sense that Bruce could give up on Terry, or vice versa, after one bad argument. Which makes it even more satisfying when Terry manages to stop the bleeding, fix a problem, bring a tiny bit of hope into the terrible world he's growing up in. It was an imaginatively perfect way to fill the mandate of "we want a Batman show where he's a teenager who goes to high school".
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drrockso20 posted:If you haven't watched the adaptations for Batman Year One and The Dark Knight Returns yet you really should, also it has very little to do with the source material besides a couple surface details but the movie for Gotham by Gaslight was pretty fun, and lastly the Fleischer Superman shorts are always worth revisiting I’ve seen both (all three) of those and loved them, loved Red Hood, Babel was okay, All Star Superman was fun, First Flight was decent, the Dark Knight anthology thing was good iirc, I do love the Fleisher cartoons but haven’t seen them in a solid decade so maybe I’ll take your advice and rewatch those Are any of the recent animated films worth watching? I couldn’t finish Batman vs Robin, I just didn’t care enough after 20 minutes
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