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Foo Diddley posted:That doesn't necessarily mean that HOTAS isn't supported. I mean, here's what IL-2 Sturmovik's store page says, and it definitely supports HOTAS setups: Your average person don't call it HOTAS either. Which is why its lumped into generic support and not listed. I used to think controller supported mattered but IL-2 and a few others are "keyboard only" but totally 100% support proper HOTAS stuff.. If its not a trash game it probably works. And if it is a trash game you can probably still bind things.
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KakerMix posted:Man, multiple monitors as some sort of attempt at immersion sure looks massively dated these days dang I remember years ago needing janky poo poo like the Matrox TripleHead2Go to actually make it work, doing bezel management stuff to make the graphics line up properly across the monitors, etc. So much easier nowadays, as you can just grab a 21:9 or 32:9 monitor and call it a day.
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EbolaIvory posted:Your average person don't call it HOTAS either. Which is why its lumped into generic support and not listed. I used to think controller supported mattered but IL-2 and a few others are "keyboard only" but totally 100% support proper HOTAS stuff..
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wolrah posted:The more I think about it IIRC Steam's "controller support" tags came to be around the time the Steam Box and Big Picture Mode were announced and pretty much mean "can you play this game without a keyboard/mouse?". "Full Controller Support" means you can play the game from launch to finish without touching anything but the controller. "Partial Controller" usually means that you need a mouse or keyboard to navigate a menu or a launch screen, but the game is probably playable with a controller after that. Lowen SoDium fucked around with this message at 04:58 on Jun 20, 2020 |
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Partial Controller Support can mean something as small as the game has a launcher you have to click play on before the game launches but the entire game can be played without ever having to touch a mouse or keyboard.
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For those that want to play Skyrim VR but not pay 60 loving dollars for a years old game, it's on sale for 18 bucks USD at the moment. https://store.steampowered.com/app/611670/The_Elder_Scrolls_V_Skyrim_VR/
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Is there a different way to download Beatsaber Plalists than Beat Drop? Every time I try to add a .bplist file I get an uhandled Java exception error message. There's an issue open on Github for it but there hasn't been any activity on it for months.
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I was given a $10 credit in the oculus store so I said gently caress it and bought Virtual Desktop to see how sideloading it and streaming games would go as an alternative to Link. Holy poo poo this rules. If you have the wifi/network to support this, don't even think about it. Just get it.
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Jun 20, 2020 22:12
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Yeah, it works so much better than link. If it's not added as an official feature at some point I'd be shocked.
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IIRC, a HOTAS controller is just a joystick HID device, same as an xbox controller or "regular" joystick. It just has extra axis and buttons, should be a snap to write a script to do the bindings correctlyShine posted:Holy poo poo EA, please do not screw this up.   I wish there were a chrome extension for me to bookmark posts like this, with an alarm to come back and quote it a couple days after the launch of a video game, call the extension "I loving told you so". This game/launch reeks of a classic EA bait and switch
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Hadlock posted:
I mean not really. Like it’s a $39.99 game and they’ve pretty much laid everything out. I don’t expect it to be some massive 20 campaign or anything but for what they are saying it is I’m absolutely in.
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Oh, I am mostly interested in how buggy the multiplayer will be The singleplayer is usually very polished with an unusually good framerate as the studio has to pass various quality reviews by both X-Box and Playstation teams etc etc. Often times graphics can even be turned up because the singleplayer uses a very different variant of the engine specific to each level/stage etc. Multiplayer is usually an absolute clusterfuck because it's much more of a sandbox and doesn't go through the same review processes. Battlefield 4 was basically a warmed over version of Battlefield 3, should have been a slam-dunk mega map pack with some new vehicles and warmed-over code improvements, was a total clusterfuck anyways. Maybe this time, after 10 years, it'll be different
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OctaviusBeaver posted:Is there a different way to download Beatsaber Plalists than Beat Drop? Every time I try to add a .bplist file I get an uhandled Java exception error message. There's an issue open on Github for it but there hasn't been any activity on it for months. Beat Drop has stopped updating I think, Beatlist is the one I'm using right now.
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Lemming posted:The best option for setting up your playspace is still getting a mat of some kind that sits on the ground such that as long as you're standing on it, you can't reach anything, with a noticeably different feel/height/texture from the floor surrounding it, that makes it obvious when you step off. Guardians that go up against your walls are fine for really slow games, but for faster games it's really never going to guarantee your safety. I highly highly recommend the mat approach for basically everyone. I know this is days old but I was catching up with the thread and can't recommend this enough. I basically set up my play space border around my area rug which makes it incredibly obvious if I'm moving out of line since the floor is wood. Also nothing except a ferret cage is in reasonable punching distance from the edge of the rug. It's a very large cage. The catsnakes were confused as to what the loud noise was, but they're fine.
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Hadlock posted:IIRC, a HOTAS controller is just a joystick HID device, same as an xbox controller or "regular" joystick. It just has extra axis and buttons, should be a snap to write a script to do the bindings correctly God I wish it was this simple. In reality the OS hides this from applications, and you get your choice of two APIs: one that's ancient unsupported legacy garbage, and one that only supports xbox controllers. Guess which one mainstream titles opt for. In rare cases both are implemented, but that takes extra effort, so... Interestingly, this is one of the areas VR is massively improving. OpenXR's input API is, for the most part, forward thinking and genuinely good, to the extent that I wish it was available outside of VR. Ralith fucked around with this message at 16:55 on Jun 21, 2020 |
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It kind of is, Steam Input works the same way. (emphasis on "kind of" because it's pretty kludgy)
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Hadlock posted:Oh, I am mostly interested in how buggy the multiplayer will be This isn't a DICE game.
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sethsez posted:This isn't a DICE game. EA definitely has a history of loving up games broadly speaking
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SCheeseman posted:It kind of is, Steam Input works the same way. An API that only works on Steam is, predictably, inconsequential.
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w00tmonger posted:EA definitely has a history of loving up games broadly speaking this is true, but they are afraid of Disney and bad PR to an extent. the recent command and conquer remaster is a decent indication of what they're capable of if they don't gently caress anything up. I'm cautiously optimistic
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The Room 3D camera passthrough on the Index with the newest SteamVR beta is nice, when used in ghost mode. I wish you could run that while in the void (i.e. the waiting area when disabling SteamVR).
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Penpal posted:this is true, but they are afraid of Disney and bad PR to an extent. the recent command and conquer remaster is a decent indication of what they're capable of if they don't gently caress anything up. I'm cautiously optimistic Not to put it past EA to gently caress up, but yeah. The reaction to Battlefront 2's microtransactions were so loving bad that multiple countries talked about passing laws against loot crates. There is no way that Disney was happy with the reaction(they're also probably not happy that they gave EA an exclusive contract to make Star Wars games in 2013 and they've only managed to make three of them so far, two of which were mired in controversy. With multiple other projects cancelled.). They are probably on very thin ground Disney.
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My valve index has always had an issue with steam vr saying it can't connect to the hmd on start up (436) but I could usually get around it by unplugging the trident cable, closing steam vr, plugging it back in, and starting steam vr. Recently, it has gotten where that's not working either. Steam support is going to send me a new trident cable. If that doesn't work, I guess the next step is too rma the hmd. Anyone else have experience with this problem?
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Lowen SoDium posted:My valve index has always had an issue with steam vr saying it can't connect to the hmd on start up (436) but I could usually get around it by unplugging the trident cable, closing steam vr, plugging it back in, and starting steam vr. I had the same experience when I first set up my Index, and switching which DP port I was using on my card seemed to fix the issue completely. As far as I could tell from my cards documentation the ports were all equivalent
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Rectus posted:Valve just added support for real-time 3D environment reconstruction for the Index cameras. I've updated everything I can seem to update, and I have an index, and the option is not where they claim it should be. I've restarted steam, the whole PC, etc. No client updates when I ask. Is there a way to force SteamVR itself to update, or do I have to enable some other option? Camera's on, the camera test itself works fine.
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You need to switch to the beta branch, IIRC.
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Brownie posted:I had the same experience when I first set up my Index, and switching which DP port I was using on my card seemed to fix the issue completely. As far as I could tell from my cards documentation the ports were all equivalent Yeah, I tried every port on 2 different cards. It seems like my issue is either in the headset or the cable. Guess I will find out once the replacement cable gets here.
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Combat Pretzel posted:You need to switch to the beta branch, IIRC. Anything besides this? 
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Bad Munki posted:Anything besides this? That's for Steam itself. Find SteamVR in your library, right click -> properties -> betas tab.
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AHHHHH. Thank you. I went looking for it, but it apparently doesn't show up in my "VR" category for some inexplicable reason, so I couldn't find the app itself, thought maybe it was black magic app-wise and the only way to mess with it was the little VR button in the top right corner of the steam UI. e: Oh, I see. It considers it a tool, and I had those turned off in my library. Bad Munki fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Jun 21, 2020 |
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I've had an issue with my Quest where the display hangs and lags when I wake it/put it on after it's been off for anywhere from a couple hours to a few days. It's consistently doing it, and the only solution/suggestion I saw was to clear the Guardian history, which hasn't worked (it seemed to at first, but it still does it just as often even if I clear it every session now). Has anyone had any experience with this? I basically have to reboot it right before using it for it to work properly.
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Rift S plus glasses. Who's done it? Do I need to order the fancy inserts, or will I be just fine my glasses are not extra large or anything
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Deeturbomber posted:I've had an issue with my Quest where the display hangs and lags when I wake it/put it on after it's been off for anywhere from a couple hours to a few days. It's consistently doing it, and the only solution/suggestion I saw was to clear the Guardian history, which hasn't worked (it seemed to at first, but it still does it just as often even if I clear it every session now). Has anyone had any experience with this? I basically have to reboot it right before using it for it to work properly. You have any weird sideloaded apps on it? I know a couple were causing stability issues even when they weren't being used.
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hhhat posted:Rift S plus glasses. Who's done it? Do I need to order the fancy inserts, or will I be just fine the width limit is 142mm and the height limit is 50mm i seem to be right at the width limit, on the front of the glasses, anyway. I'll do research like a good citizen
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Origami Dali posted:You have any weird sideloaded apps on it? I know a couple were causing stability issues even when they weren't being used. Only BMBF and whatever the sideloaded thing is to install link functionality in Virtual Desktop.
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Speaking of sideloading things, how worthwhile is that Sharpness Upgrade adb patch for the Quest that I've seen on the youtubes? Is this like nerd placebo, or should I do that after I finish setting up wireless Virtual Desktop?
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hhhat posted:Rift S plus glasses. Who's done it? Do I need to order the fancy inserts, or will I be just fine I do, my glasses are 13cm wide and I have no problems with them fitting in.
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Veotax posted:I do, my glasses are 13cm wide and I have no problems with them fitting in. mine seem to be right on the edge of 142mm i guess i'll find out
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hhhat posted:Rift S plus glasses. Who's done it? Do I need to order the fancy inserts, or will I be just fine I picked up some plano inserts because I'm paranoid about the lenses but as far as comfort, it's fine.
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