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5600M should make it to the iMacs soon imho.
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Chris Knight posted:5600M should make it to the iMacs soon imho. maybe as a high end option for the 21". let the 5k get something bigger and better
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Jun 22, 2020 00:41
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Puppy Galaxy posted:The last time I tried to have stuff fixed at Best Buy under warranty they said they would have to send it out to Apple, but maybe that's changed? Yeah, Best Buys are Apple Authorized Service Providers which means they can assist you with warranty and AppleCare services with your device. However, the only devices they can service in the store are iPhones. iPads, Apple Watch, AirPods, Macs, etc all have to be sent out for any repairs or upgrades. The pricing is the same, however, and that's typically how Apple Stores do it too.
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Jun 22, 2020 01:05
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Is the base MacBook Air fine as is or does it need the i5 and/or 16GB RAM upgrades? This is to replace an original 11" MBA, basically for web browsing, some light office work, and maybe some not intense gaming (Sim City, Civilization, etc).
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Jun 22, 2020 04:23
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Toe Rag posted:Is the base MacBook Air fine as is or does it need the i5 and/or 16GB RAM upgrades? This is to replace an original 11" MBA, basically for web browsing, some light office work, and maybe some not intense gaming (Sim City, Civilization, etc). Quad core, get the 16gb if you can Do you have access to a working .edu email account? That’ll save you $100-200 on the education store.
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Jun 22, 2020 04:26
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Really? Sheesh. No .edu. Does it just make more sense to get a MacBook Pro at that point? Quad core + 16GB is 1500, same as MBP Quad+16BG. 256GB instead of 512GB but that doesn't matter. CPU on the MBP appears to be older, though, not sure how much of a difference it makes.
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Jun 22, 2020 04:43
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I don’t think they ask for a .edu account anymore. It’s all honor system now I believe
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Jun 22, 2020 04:46
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As opposed to Spotify who are complete jerks about their student discount.
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Jun 22, 2020 05:21
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hatty posted:I don’t think they ask for a .edu account anymore. It’s all honor system now I believe Yeah they won't really care unless you try to buy like 20 macbooks at a time using the discount
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Jun 22, 2020 05:22
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I think that if you don't have an .edu account, then you don't get the discounted student rate for Apple Music subscriptions, which is $4.99 a month. Apple clears these by going through UNIDAYS which is a student discount website.
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Jun 22, 2020 05:31
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Binary Badger posted:I think that if you don't have an .edu account, then you don't get the discounted student rate for Apple Music subscriptions, which is $4.99 a month. You can still go without unidays(which is worse than spotify for identifying a edu entitiy outside the us) if you start a chat with a sales rep and provide a valid education email.
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Jun 22, 2020 08:56
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Toe Rag posted:Really? Sheesh. No .edu. Does it just make more sense to get a MacBook Pro at that point? Quad core + 16GB is 1500, same as MBP Quad+16BG. 256GB instead of 512GB but that doesn't matter. CPU on the MBP appears to be older, though, not sure how much of a difference it makes.  MBP will run cooler and faster for sustained loads, I think the MBA can technically burst faster but the thermals eventually limit the performance. The MBA is rated for longer battery but not sure the difference would be noticeable in reality with how variable that is.
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Ok Comboomer posted:Holy poo poo that 5600M is really making me consider going for a raced out 16” whenever I go for that doctorate. Sure it’s $3800, it’s a do everything computer. Lol at 130 FPS in Windows, and even 70+ FPS at native res You'll have a do-everything computer for 3 years, and then the GPU will be outdated. I'd rather spend that $700 on 32GB RAM and a console.
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Godzilla07 posted:You'll have a do-everything computer for 3 years, and then the GPU will be outdated. I'd rather spend that $700 on 32GB RAM and a console. Fair point. But even outdated, it’d probably still handle most poo poo I’d want to do at 3 years, and still benefit from having more powerful graphics. There’ve been some pretty good analyses on the relative “gracefulness” of different recent GPUs aging, which point to a general increase in relevancy and longevity. Sure there are moments of furious development and competition (it looks like we’re entering/have just entered one), but IDK that it’s fair to call a contemporary flagship-tier GPU “outdated” after three years. If anything, the last couple of years have shown both AMD and NVidia GPUs getting better and more optimized after a year or two, and holding on with a fairly long tail after that. And, again, I mentioned this in a separate post but I’m not looking at the raced-out MacBook Pro of 2020, I’m looking at the $2000-2500 MacBook Pro of 2021/2022/2023 that has similar or better capability. Just like the $3000-$4000 2012 rMBP became the $2100-$2900 2013 model. The 5600M is a sign of AMD GPUs to come, and it’s not far-fetched to expect similar performance out of a base-model in a year or two. I’m excited about the prospect of not having to heavily compromise on poo poo like graphics when picking a MacBook over a Windows PC. It’s nice that AMD is punching at a weight competitive with NVidia and that Apple is actually buying those cards. It wasn’t that long ago that Apple’s GPU game for Macs was seriously piss poor, with the extra insult that they were sourcing from both AMD and NVidia at that time.
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Ok Comboomer posted:maybe as a high end option for the 21". let the 5k get something bigger and better 
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Jun 22, 2020 12:34
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Chris Knight posted:Ah yes the 21" iMac, well known for getting high end GPU parts The current 21” can be specced with multiple flavors of 6 core CPU and up to a Pro Vega 20 dGPU and can be brought to 27” iMac/MBP prices with said upgrades. It’s the first time that Apple’s brought such upgrade pathways to the smaller iMac. It used to just ship with a dual core and integrated graphics but that is no longer the case. Why the gently caress would Apple replace an rx580 desktop class GPU with an admittedly high-performance notebook variant, when something bigger/hotter, more powerful, and cheaper could fit in the existing spot? Putting notebook GPUs into 27” iMacs is one of the key things people hated about the iMac beforehand. Gimme whatever the successor to the Vega 48 is instead. Just spitballing based on AMD’s product stack and the updates to the Mac Pro, I could see a full-fat RX5700 go into the 27” iMac. The 5600M is a 50 Watt notebook GPU, making it an excellent fit for the spot currently occupied by the Vega 20. trilobite terror fucked around with this message at 13:49 on Jun 22, 2020 |
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Apple only updates their computers once every 5 years so speccing the 5600 is a good idea.
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Apropos of nothing I've always been amused by the stubbornness of an industry-leading company who has their own terminology and absolutely refuses to bow to the insistence of the real world not to adopt it. Like McDonald's with "hotcakes" and "french fry" as a collective noun, and doggedly insisting on "sandwich" for a burger. Here we are in 2020 and Apple shows no sign of letting go of "logic board" or "notebook"
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Last minute leak tweets: https://twitter.com/L0vetodream/status/1274927653825347586 https://twitter.com/L0vetodream/status/1274915484274548736 Big Sur sounds like a total antonym because of the chaos it will bring.
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https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/06/22/waterfield-designs-saddle-turns-the-mac-pro-into-a-workhorse Yeah, just what the Mac Pro needed, something to make it uglier. Even better, it costs less than a set of wheels ($400)
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Binary Badger posted:https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/06/22/waterfield-designs-saddle-turns-the-mac-pro-into-a-workhorse WHO IS THIS FOR
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Jun 22, 2020 14:46
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When you want to feel connected to the craftsmen of old.....you buy your Mac Pro its very own blacksmith’s apron
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hatty posted:I don’t think they ask for a .edu account anymore. It’s all honor system now I believe They waved the requirements during COVID since many people people are studying from (like kids) who may not have an EDU. If you have a Costco membership they have the MacBook Air i5/8gb/256gb on sale for $949 starting the 24th. Costco also gets you 2 years warranty, 4 if you pay with their credit card.
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FCKGW posted:They waved the requirements during COVID since many people people are studying from (like kids) who may not have an EDU. Hot drat. Assuming you don’t need more than 8/256 that’s a heck of a sweet spot.
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2020 Airs for $150 off MSRP in the Apple Refurb Store https://www.apple.com/shop/refurbished/mac/macbook-air
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hatty posted:I don’t think they ask for a .edu account anymore. It’s all honor system now I believe Check the government prices, too, those can be slightly better than the educational prices, unless you want the free Airpods. I think the MBP I ordered was $20 cheaper on the government store than the education store.
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I guess nobody wants to start a WWDC 20 thread.
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Event Stream is up! https://www.apple.com/apple-events/event-stream/
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Looks like a Cook emoji will host the WWDC keynote: https://twitter.com/tim_cook/status/1275047887425220608
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Binary Badger posted:https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/06/22/waterfield-designs-saddle-turns-the-mac-pro-into-a-workhorse I'm only buying a Mac Pro saddle if it includes the wheels so I can ride the thing
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ITS HAPPENING.GIF
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So if you buy a x86 Mac today are they going to be like "lol that's abandoned" in 3 years?
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Glad they fixed the keyboard released at least one more generation of good laptops before the risky big change.
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Pakistani Brad Pitt posted:So if you buy a x86 Mac today are they going to be like "lol that's abandoned" in 3 years? nope. and if you're a dev, you're probably going to want to stick to x86 for at least 3 generations while ARM stuff becomes more available.
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Holy crap, they’re really gonna do the whole Mac stack in two years, and first one ships before 2021. Calling it now- that’s the 14” MBP that we didn’t get in Spring. So uhh...how much is the ARM Mac Pro gonna cost/perform relative to the current Intel one? I wasn’t able to really see all of the Linux virtualization stuff...is this like Apple’s response to WSL or just them showing devs that virtualization didn’t break on the new hardware/software?
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I wonder how much they're charging for that developer transition kit?
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frogbs posted:I wonder how much they're charging for that developer transition kit? Probably whatever they’ll charge when it shows up fundamentally unchanged as the new Mac Mini come November.
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frogbs posted:I wonder how much they're charging for that developer transition kit? Looks like it's $500, and you have to return it to Apple: "The DTK, which must be returned to Apple at the end of the program, consists of a Mac mini with Apple’s A12Z Bionic SoC inside and desktop specs, including 16GB of memory, a 512GB SSD, and a variety of Mac I/O ports." https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2020/06/apple-announces-mac-transition-to-apple-silicon/
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Matt Zerella posted:nope. and if you're a dev, you're probably going to want to stick to x86 for at least 3 generations while ARM stuff becomes more available. Yeah I imagine the ARM Macs will initially be great as basic web/email/streaming machines, but I'd bet it'll be years before most professional/creative/content creation software has been ported to run on ARM natively.
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Ok Comboomer posted:I wasn’t able to really see all of the Linux virtualization stuff...is this like Apple’s response to WSL or just them showing devs that virtualization didn’t break on the new hardware/software? Beats me, all they showed was a quick screen capture.. 
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