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https://twitter.com/questauthority/status/1274192191171198985 The incompetence never ends
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Jun 20, 2020 06:06
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i don't even know where to begin
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Jun 20, 2020 12:08
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I can't wait for a nice, straight forward video essay [series] breaking down just how awful this whole train wreck actually is.
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Jun 20, 2020 12:40
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https://twitter.com/questauthority/status/1274531112350625792?s=20
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Jun 21, 2020 04:54
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100% truth: I was randomly thinking of/remembering this thread today and wondering when the next part of the shitshow would fall
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Jun 21, 2020 06:42
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Agent Escalus posted:100% truth: I was randomly thinking of/remembering this thread today and wondering when the next part of the shitshow would fall Same. I just realized yesterday that it’d been a while since we last heard anything from him.
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Jun 21, 2020 07:05
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dunford still has the funi brief to tear apart later today, but here's the 4 threads so far: https://twitter.com/questauthority/status/1274364223582343169 https://twitter.com/questauthority/status/1274394820509937667 https://twitter.com/questauthority/status/1274436785670705161 https://twitter.com/questauthority/status/1274482267751100421 the last thread is full of gold Wiggly Wayne DDS fucked around with this message at 13:44 on Jun 21, 2020 |
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Jun 21, 2020 13:28
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I draft a lot of briefs for all levels of courts at both the state and federal level. Microsoft word will automatically make your tables of contents and authorities. TOC only requires that you use the heading features built into word. I made a default template that already has the heading and subheading formats I need, for example, so that inserting the TOC is a matter of just a few clicks along with maybe some minor editing for format. The ToA is similar, but takes a small bit of extra work. When you paste a citation for the first time, just highlight the citation and click "mark citation." It will allow you to designate categories such as cases and statutes. Now any time you cite that same case again, you highlight your cite, click mark citation, and then scroll through the list of citations to select the previously used one. After that, you literally just click "insert table of authorities" and you're done. Vic's lawyers did all this poo poo by hand, and as a result, hosed it up.
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Jun 21, 2020 13:39
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I'm guessing you can't get disbarred for being bad at being a lawyer if you don't do anything criminal but how many filings can you screw up before the courts lose their poo poo on you?
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Jun 21, 2020 13:48
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pentyne posted:I'm guessing you can't get disbarred for being bad at being a lawyer if you don't do anything criminal but how many filings can you screw up before the courts lose their poo poo on you? He could absolutely be referred for discipline that would probably involve taking a shitton of CLE courses to correct the obvious gaps in his knowledge. I don't practice TX law and have no idea what their discipline system is like. Maybe they're throwing it so Vic can claim ineffective assistance of counsel.
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Jun 21, 2020 13:55
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I doubt it I don't think they give a rat's rear end about Vic. I actually sort of wonder how much agency Vic has in the appeal, cause he has the potential to lose his shirt. Hanging their cap on the whole public figure thing seems suss anyway. You either make money from appearances and have lost that or you're not a public figure, not both. But whatever, I don't think there's a coherent legal strategy here. EDIT: Anyone know when the court needs to decide if they'll hear arguments in the appeal? I assume we're still months out from that. SoftNum fucked around with this message at 16:55 on Jun 21, 2020 |
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Jun 21, 2020 16:50
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Mr. Nice! posted:
Is that even a thing in civil cases? My impression is that a client’s only recourse to poor civil representation is to sue their lawyer for malpractice.
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Jun 21, 2020 17:07
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Fray posted:Is that even a thing in civil cases? My impression is that a client’s only recourse to poor civil representation is to sue their lawyer for malpractice. I dunno if it is or isn't in TX. I'm just saying dumb poo poo that I thought was funny.
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Jun 21, 2020 17:12
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It only applies in criminal cases.
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Jun 21, 2020 18:13
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This speaks to me https://twitter.com/questauthority/status/1274485159069351937?s=20
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Jun 21, 2020 19:16
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I dont even know where we're at anymore is he using the same chud lawyer
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Jun 22, 2020 01:24
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Alan Smithee posted:I dont even know where we're at anymore Yup. And golly he is bad at this.
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Jun 22, 2020 01:42
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Dunford did more of the new stuff today Spoilers: It is grossly incompetent and is driving Dunford to drink. https://twitter.com/questauthority/status/1274830157384167425 Edit: The best part is Beard's assertion that because Vic denied everything on twitter, that alone should defeat TCPA RubberLuffy fucked around with this message at 02:06 on Jun 22, 2020 |
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Jun 22, 2020 02:04
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Is there a legal reason that there are 4 responses to 3 briefs?
Hub Cat fucked around with this message at 04:08 on Jun 22, 2020 |
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Jun 22, 2020 02:14
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They learned how to lawyer from TV and movies. Like seriously they are acting like it's Phoenix Wright.
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Jun 22, 2020 05:24
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Even Phoenix Wright knows you need evidence
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Jun 22, 2020 05:53
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Hub Cat posted:Is there a legal reason that there are 4 responses to 3 briefs? One for each defendant and one for the cross-appeal of the fee award
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Jun 22, 2020 06:04
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Exercu posted:One for each defendant and one for the cross-appeal of the fee award Serious nonsarcastic question, is it normal to break that sort of thing out into a separate reply when it's replying to a 6 page section of the Rial Toye brief? Dunford seems to be saying that this is unusual. Edit: I'm really not sure why I'm asking when even if this is incompetence it probably doesn't even reach top 10 for just these filings alone. Hub Cat fucked around with this message at 10:12 on Jun 22, 2020 |
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Jun 22, 2020 06:34
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Hub Cat posted:Serious nonsarcastic question, is it normal to break that sort of thing out into a separate reply when it's replying to a 6 page section of the Rial Toye brief? Dunford seems to be saying that this is unusual. Oh, it's absolutely not normal, but I can at least kind of see the logic in keeping different claims apart. That said they've spent about 35k words of the 27k they had, so that'll be fun.
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Jun 22, 2020 11:35
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Still thinking about that pic of them smoking see-gars
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Jun 22, 2020 12:59
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SweetWillyRollbar posted:Still thinking about that pic of them smoking see-gars It would have been less obnoxious if they'd been posing with "seegars".
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Jun 22, 2020 13:08
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At this point Team Vic’s only hope is that they are in an appellate court that prefers to decide on the merits despite obvious briefing procedural gently caress ups.
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Jun 22, 2020 14:10
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Wasabi the J posted:They learned how to lawyer from TV and movies. Without even the level of understanding of getting that Phoenix Wright is satire of the Japanese legal system, not the American one.
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Jun 22, 2020 14:11
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Wasabi the J posted:They learned how to lawyer from TV and movies.  But for real, like how did Beard decide to take a case in an area he has no expertise in (I think he's a real estate lawyer, which seems as far removed from difficulties as you can get from entertainment) would go swimmingly if he just... shat himself every step of the way?
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Jun 22, 2020 14:49
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Wark Say posted:Hey, no stop that! Don't you dare pin this on Nick! I mean, last I checked he's still getting paid an absurd amount of money for it? Sounds like it's going swimmingly for him.
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Jun 22, 2020 15:14
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But is the payday gonna be worth it in the end? From everything I've seen, they can actually sanction Beard and co. for wasting people's times doing this quarter-assed job.
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Jun 22, 2020 15:24
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It's more about the win itself rather than getting any money out of it
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Jun 22, 2020 15:27
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of course the funi doc they filled was the wrong one now there's 2 versions. latest includes the Certificate of Compliance and Certificate of Service so that's 3/4 of the documents with them now iirc just starting to get into mike's teardown of the original version
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Jun 22, 2020 16:34
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Wark Say posted:Hey, no stop that! Don't you dare pin this on Nick! The theory I believe is that they thought they could intimidate the defendants into settling and where complete unprepared for them to actually fight back Edit. poo poo I got plaintiff and defendant mixed up Dark477 fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Jun 22, 2020 |
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Jun 22, 2020 18:57
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Vic is the plaintiff.
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Jun 22, 2020 19:02
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I know. I mean vics lawyers thought they could scare the defendants into a settling
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Jun 22, 2020 19:06
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No Vic sued them. To be clear Rial & Co. are the defendants. Though I agree in general, Vic wanted to quash their public discourse about his abuses. Though I suspect that another thing they wanted was to force a discovery where Discord would reveal a bunch of logs and they could go after random people who said poo poo like "Geez I wish Vic would die" or w/e. Beard & Co. are real focused on getting to discovery.' So what happens because they've overran their allotted word count? I assume the court doesn't just give them a do-over?
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Jun 22, 2020 19:19
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I made a stupid mixup. I meant the defendants not the plaintiffs. As for the word count issue https://mobile.twitter.com/questauthority/status/1275069545292562432 Dark477 fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Jun 22, 2020 |
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Jun 22, 2020 19:22
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I mean, it still works if you think that their own incompetence is their biggest hindrance to this suit. 
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Jun 22, 2020 19:29
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Wark Say posted:But is the payday gonna be worth it in the end? From everything I've seen, they can actually sanction Beard and co. for wasting people's times doing this quarter-assed job.
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