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Some Goon posted:The number I've seen tossed around is like 1k per, generally accompanied by comments that they pay better than anyone in the fantasy art genre. Obviously I don't have any firsthand experience nor do I know how they handle bringing on new artists, but this is the first I've heard of Wizards paying poorly for art, at least, by the standards of fantasy art. This is what I've heard as well. Those other numbers sound like what artists have told me... when they worked on Alpha. $1000 still seems low, but the artists get a fair amount of opportunity for making money off their work. I have to be honest, if you really enjoy painting pictures of elves and you want to pursue a job where you can paint pictures of elves, your options are likely very limited. Magic is probably the way to go, so they get to set the rate.
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Jun 22, 2020 05:57
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1000$, they do your advertising for you, and you still keep the rights to the piece doesn't seem too awful. How many of us would be buying John Avon or Seb pieces if we were never introduced to them through this game? Being an artist seems like a hard and stressful way to make a living, but at least it is rewarding.
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Jun 22, 2020 06:26
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Marvel/DC pay like 400$ for pencils/line art page and 800$ for cover art with similar original art agreements so I find it hard to believe that Kev Walker would ever do any magic cards today if this earned him more than this 
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Jun 22, 2020 07:32
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DangerDongs posted:1000$, they do your advertising for you, and you still keep the rights to the piece doesn't seem too awful. You don't keep the rights, you're just allowed to sell prints and crap, subject to Wizards' and, depending on the item, Ultra-Pro's branding requirements.
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Jun 22, 2020 10:06
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there is absolutely no way they are paying that little. I cannot believe that. even artists for niche RPG books get paid more than that.
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Jun 22, 2020 11:30
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https://twitter.com/YukieTAJIMA/status/1275005759420428288 Gimme a grumpy Sorin token
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Jun 22, 2020 11:48
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Eej posted:https://twitter.com/YukieTAJIMA/status/1275005759420428288 Oh yeah, just occured to me that Zendikar seems a good place for new Sorin and Nahiri cards. I know they are taking time away from the major stories but with Emrakul locked up it's just beef rather than existential threat now.
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Jun 22, 2020 15:23
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Following the Noah Bradley discussion I saw some conversation turn to "what's Rebecca Guay up to nowadays" and the answer is drawing six-foot penises, apparently. Good work if you can get it. (NSFW click, if the link text didn't tip you off.)
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Jun 22, 2020 15:57
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wizzardstaff posted:Following the Noah Bradley discussion I saw some conversation turn to "what's Rebecca Guay up to nowadays" and the answer is drawing six-foot penises, apparently. Good work if you can get it. Is that for a spitting slug reprint?
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Jun 22, 2020 16:07
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BizarroAzrael posted:Oh yeah, just occured to me that Zendikar seems a good place for new Sorin and Nahiri cards. I know they are taking time away from the major stories but with Emrakul locked up it's just beef rather than existential threat now. I hope we get 4 color Omnath in Zendikar 3: Zendikar With a Vengeance
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Jun 22, 2020 16:16
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Any thoughts on my Bo1 Standard monoblack homebrew? I like it but surely it can be better. 2x Knight of the Ebon Legion 4x Serrated Scorpion 3x Vampire of the Dire Moon 3x Mire's Grasp 2x Piper of the Swarm 4x Priest of the Forgotten Gods 4x Bastion of Remembrance 4x Call of the Death Dweller 2x Hunted Nightmare 2x Murder 3x Murderous Rider 3x Plaguecrafter 4x Spinal Centipede 2x Ill-Gotten Inheritance 18x Swamp Cheers!
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Jun 22, 2020 16:16
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Owlbear Camus posted:Is that for a spitting slug reprint? rejected Scooze rework
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wizzardstaff posted:Following the Noah Bradley discussion I saw some conversation turn to "what's Rebecca Guay up to nowadays" and the answer is drawing six-foot penises, apparently. Good work if you can get it. If you have Instagram she's absolutely worth following. Her art is as good as it's ever been, just really loving sexual and really loving weird. I dig it.
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Jun 22, 2020 16:20
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https://www.hipstersofthecoast.com/2020/06/mtg-arena-is-coming-to-mac-on-thursday-june-25/ Neat for Mac ppl I guess!!
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Jun 22, 2020 16:25
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Perry Mason Jar posted:Any thoughts on my Bo1 Standard monoblack homebrew? I like it but surely it can be better. Knight of the Ebon Legion is a fantastic card, and I really like the interactions between Vampire of the Dire Moon, Bloodthirsty Aerialist, and the lifegain that you can stick onto any vampire through Sorin. Since I'm already running Haunt and another rogue, I'm considering adding Thieves' Guild Enforcer for combat tricks and extra pump to Haunt. Blood Burglar goes well with that plan, and synergizes with the rest of the deck. Throwing in Vito should makes things really explode. If I can make it fit, the new deathtouch lord might find a place here, but I'm worried it might also dilute things too much. Where our two plans differ is that I'm playing with some sacrifice effects but at the core my deck is mid-range with Aerialist, Haunt, and/or Vito as finishers, whereas I think you're mainly focusing on sacrifice. And, if you're focusing on sacrifice right now, it probably makes sense to go Rakdos or Jund (and Rakdos is about to get even better with Village Rites). Ersatz fucked around with this message at 17:26 on Jun 22, 2020 |
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Jun 22, 2020 17:05
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Here's Gerry's list from a recent article:code:
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Jun 22, 2020 17:30
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There are people who currently support themselves and their families with painting for WotC so it has to be more than that.
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Jun 22, 2020 18:06
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If you're the least bit popular you can sell the original for 4-7 times the wotc commission.
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Jun 22, 2020 18:41
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ShaneB posted:Here's Gerry's list from a recent article: Ah man this looks dope. I feel like an argument can be made for maindeck 2-4 Drill Bit if the post-M21 format is substantially similar to this one
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Jun 22, 2020 18:48
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Fuzzy Mammal posted:If you're the least bit popular you can sell the original for 4-7 times the wotc commission. I remember seeing Bradley selling the original History of Benalia at scgcon one year and I want to say it was $3,000? It's absolutely gorgeous in person and cards often don't do originals justice. Too bad he sucks rear end as a human.
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Jun 22, 2020 19:00
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The art for Otrimi, the Ever Playful sold for 5K and that card was only just printed in Commander 2020, there are lots of art nerds who want cool monster paintings.
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Jun 22, 2020 19:05
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Yeah, the artists probably make great residual income. I dunno when Mark Tedin last made something but he likely still makes bank off his early magic stuff.
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Jun 22, 2020 19:56
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The early magic artists got paid pennies (because WotC was broke) but the contract gave them royalties whenever the image was used. After Magic got big(get) WotC came back and said "agree to give up royalties or we'll never use this art again (and you still won't get royalties)" and some (most?) told them no. As such a lot of the early art will never be reprinted by Wizards ever.
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Jun 22, 2020 20:08
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AlphaKeny1 posted:Yeah, the artists probably make great residual income. I dunno when Mark Tedin last made something but he likely still makes bank off his early magic stuff. He did the current sol ring magicfest art. Which owns.
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Jun 22, 2020 20:09
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Anyone ordered from GameNerdz before? I locked in 2 boxes of Jumpstart before a single spoiler and now they are up like 65 ea bucks from my preorder price. Hoping they're not the kind of fly by night that's gonna cancel due to "lack of stock" and relist them lol.
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Jun 22, 2020 20:53
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my only experience with them is reading your post and thinking about how terrible the name 'GameNerdz' is. i'm worried for your purchase
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Jun 22, 2020 21:13
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Fingers McLongDong posted:I remember seeing Bradley selling the original History of Benalia at scgcon one year and I want to say it was $3,000? It's absolutely gorgeous in person and cards often don't do originals justice. Too bad he sucks rear end as a human. Now any new originals clear $10K easily. Art market is rediculous now.
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Jun 22, 2020 21:22
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Big Leg posted:my only experience with them is reading your post and thinking about how terrible the name 'GameNerdz' is. i'm worried for your purchase pray with me, for them to honor the order. i ordered for pure theme land/fun quick sealed purpose reasons, blind, and should not be punished for it.
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Jun 22, 2020 21:25
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I bought a deck box from them like a month ago with no issues.
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Jun 22, 2020 21:27
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Owlbear Camus posted:Anyone ordered from GameNerdz before? I locked in 2 boxes of Jumpstart before a single spoiler and now they are up like 65 ea bucks from my preorder price. Hoping they're not the kind of fly by night that's gonna cancel due to "lack of stock" and relist them lol. I purchased Isle of Cats from them (great board game, you'd love it) and they shipped it super quickly. If you go on https://www.reddit.com/r/Boardgamedeals/ you'll see they're one of the more recommended online retailers. Terrible name, I agree.
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Ersatz posted:I'm also developing a mono-black deck right now, but am instead organizing around the idea of breaking Sorin in various ways. For example, using Silversmote Ghoul for a recursive 3 lifegain, 3 damage to any target effect. As another example, including Haunt of High tower for a potentially huge turn 3 threat. I play a netdeck Raakdos that rarely gets going lol. I think I was playing an incomplete list for being tokens poor though. My logic for this deck was "I want removal" --> "This seems pretty cheap I want mana efficiency too then" --> "I have no sustain let me add that" and also deciding against catoven because it's boring (I've played it a ton, it was fun for a while). I'm having a lot more success with it than I thought I would, I like that it plays very fast with the right draws and if the Swarm and Priest combo stays on the board you basically just win. I'm not sure what "Haunt and another rogue" you're referring to (still noob here). Awesome M21 list, very appreciated! Really looking forward to tinkering with this deck for a while.
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Perry Mason Jar posted:I play a netdeck Raakdos that rarely gets going lol. I think I was playing an incomplete list for being tokens poor though. With an ideal draw, I'd be dropping Sorin on turn 3, using his -3 ability to play Haunt of Hightower from my hand, and then killing the opponent with Haunt after dropping Vito on turn 4 or 5. Haunt has lifelink, so Vito will effectively double every point of damage it does to the opponent, and by turn 4 or 5, Haunt is very likely going to be a 6/6 or 7/7, even without additional pump from milling rogues. Luckily, Haunt isn't necessary for the deck to win, since Aerialist does just as well in a deck with lots of lifegain effects (including the lifelinking creatures, and the recursive 3 damage to any target, 3 life gain off of sacrificing Silversmote Ghoul over and over). I had a solid Rakdos sacrifice deck going last month, but I too got sick of Cat-Oven, and decided to have fun with aggressive mono-black vampires. My hope is that with these incoming cards will allow me to propel that vampire deck out of diamond and into mythic. Hard to say without actually having played with the new cards, but I think there's a decent chance. The Silversmote/Sorin combo alone is a bit nuts. Just wish I had a synergistic way to mill my own deck to get extra Silversmotes in play.
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Jun 22, 2020 22:07
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Bradley is out. https://twitter.com/wizards_magic/status/1275188133819228161?s=19
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Jun 22, 2020 23:07
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This is a shockingly rapid response time from WotC.
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Jun 22, 2020 23:27
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They've had plenty of pressure to not drag their feet, recently .
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FrozenPhoenix71 posted:This is a shockingly rapid response time from WotC. i mean, with the big asterisk that we'll still be seeing noah bradley art on cards through 2021 give the lead time on card printing, and potentially further depending on how much money they care to spend on commissioning replacement art in the future like it's not like they can speed it up at all but I guess if they're still doing it in 2024 time to complain again
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well nevermind
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Jun 22, 2020 23:38
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flatluigi posted:and potentially further depending on how much money they care to spend on commissioning replacement art in the future They said they will remove his art from reprints. I guess technically they could remove his art from some (but not all) reprints and not be liars, but in practice that seems hard for them to get away with.
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This makes the vagina mountain from origins uncomfortable.
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