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I don't know if anyone here would know, but how is the military handling coronavirus? I have a couple former students who just graduated and are excited to leave for basic. They've contacted me a few times about it and I'm happy that they're excited, but then I was just thinking about it and wondering how the military is handling it. Between barracks, dining, training, etc. it looks like they'd constantly be in close quarters all the time.
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Sir Not Appearing posted:I don't know if anyone here would know, but how is the military handling coronavirus? I have a couple former students who just graduated and are excited to leave for basic. They've contacted me a few times about it and I'm happy that they're excited, but then I was just thinking about it and wondering how the military is handling it. Between barracks, dining, training, etc. it looks like they'd constantly be in close quarters all the time. Other than that I just know about those outbreaks on several Navy ships but I'm sure a lot of the information about military outbreaks is being kept quiet on purpose
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Sir Not Appearing posted:I don't know if anyone here would know, but how is the military handling coronavirus? I have a couple former students who just graduated and are excited to leave for basic. They've contacted me a few times about it and I'm happy that they're excited, but then I was just thinking about it and wondering how the military is handling it. Between barracks, dining, training, etc. it looks like they'd constantly be in close quarters all the time. Ask in the Internet VFW.
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Looks like it's a don't ask don't tell situation. https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1274043027049385986
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Bleusilences posted:I live in Quebec and we finally got some number under the 100 and zero death. I am hopeful that things stay that way here for awhile. I am still going to wear a mask, especially since I commute by bus. Man comment tu la manque dans ton post!!! We had 69 cases yesterday! Je te laisse le layup pour completer le shitpost
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FlamingLiberal posted:My home state of FL just hit 100K today Guy on my FB feed just went on vacation to Universal Studios Florida today with his family. Him, his wife, and five kids. They are huge chuds. Posting photos of them getting on an empty plane. How they are letting people into Florida right now is insane. UW Madison just started letting student-athletes back in for practice for school reopening in fall. Two are already sick. I think we all know school is going to be remote next year at this point. There is no way. One kid gets it the entire place has to be shut down and disinfected by CDC guidelines.
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DeadFatDuckFat posted:At this point, I'm just hoping that the virus is mutating so that it will be drastically less harmful. I'm really not confident that governments are going to do much more to try to protect us, or that people will be responsible Do viruses frequently mutate to be LESS harmful? Considering how this originated (in a lab in Wuhan after a psy ops mission by the CIA obviously), I'm just joking it doesn't get drastically worse. Just the fact that it's not really affecting kids at all is a Godsend. I wonder if MAGA chuds and other morons would take it slightly more seriously if it was wiping out children rather than primarily Boomers and older. they wouldn't, they lust for capitalism-facilitated death, preferably one that fucks over as many other innocent people as possible
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stab posted:Man comment tu la manque dans ton post!!! chaque fois que j'entends le covid19 je me trouve perdu en pensant du Big Bird
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I wonder if funeral homes and crematoriums have seen a statistically significant increase in revenue in any of these places.
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sticksy posted:Do viruses frequently mutate to be LESS harmful? My understanding is viruses typically mutate to become less dangerous in order to be less likely to kill off the host and spread more widely as populations gain immunity. Please correct me if I'm wrong though!
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stab posted:Man comment tu la manque dans ton post!!! Agréable
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compshateme85 posted:I wonder if funeral homes and crematoriums have seen a statistically significant increase in revenue in any of these places. More bodies don't necessarily mean more money for funeral homes--my understanding is most funeral homes make their money off products and services like coffins, catering, embalming, use of the funeral home to hold the funeral, etc. Cremations are much less profitable, for example. And with most funerals being socially distanced affairs now, I have to imagine they make much less per body than they did pre-COVID. Plus, added costs for PPE, etc. So, who knows. e: One article on the subject, from googling: https://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherhelman/2020/04/21/how-the-pandemic-is-killing-the-death-business/#477f8ae46c64 - includes the classy phrase "upsell the bereaved," which, to be fair, is a pretty good summation of the funeral home business model Sir John Falstaff fucked around with this message at 06:55 on Jun 23, 2020 |
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Beartaco posted:My understanding is viruses typically mutate to become less dangerous in order to be less likely to kill off the host and spread more widely as populations gain immunity. Please correct me if I'm wrong though! I feel like that might be true for something like ebola, where the obvious ill health and imminent death of the host limits the spread. For something like CV19 with a wide spread and asymptomatic spreaders, I don't know if the same selection forces are at play. Every host is another petri dish accumulating mutations too, which means the more it spreads the more it will respond to whatever selective pressures its under.
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Beartaco posted:My understanding is viruses typically mutate to become less dangerous in order to be less likely to kill off the host and spread more widely as populations gain immunity. Please correct me if I'm wrong though! They usually do, but it takes centuries. It is theorised that the Spanish Flu was the inverse case, in that a more severe sickness brought the young man who contracted it off the front lines and into a rear hospital, where the virus could circulate widely. Then there is HIV, which is a nightmare scenario. Before we developed targeted antivirals, it was completely fatal, but not in a way that hindered its spread, since it took years to progress from infection to death, or even major symptoms.
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Beartaco posted:My understanding is viruses typically mutate to become less dangerous in order to be less likely to kill off the host and spread more widely as populations gain immunity. Please correct me if I'm wrong though! IIRC that happens because viruses mutate all the time, and the one that spreads the best becomes the dominant strain. Strains that kill too fast (like Ebola) have a high chance of burning themselves out. That seems unlikely to be a factor with Covid19 because the dominant strain already spreads really well. People can be walking around contagious with few or no noticeable symptoms at all for days or weeks. With symptoms folks may feel sick, but not sick enough to be bedridden, and then start to feel better before collapsing again -- lots of opportunities to shed virions on their family, co-workers, and fellow shoppers. The people who die in hospitals often die very slowly, giving them lots of chances to spread illness even to healthcare workers with good PPE. It already kills less than 5% of the infected, I doubt a strain that killed even fewer would have much of an advantage. Likewise the long term lung and kidney damage of many survivors doesn't inconvenience covid at all, so there is no reason for a strain that does less long term damage to become dominant.
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Funny that people are talking about Ebola, HIV, etc., given that those also came to humans via animals, same as the 'rona.Facebook Aunt posted:Strains that kill too fast (like Ebola) have a high chance of burning themselves out.
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I think Covid19 is a normal influenza. It's just that our immune system goes apeshit when it finds a flu strain not encountered as a kid. Children are mostly immune to this poo poo because their body treats it as any other flu they first come in contact with and files it up on things to remember. After it was discovered that blood was clotting up the alveoli the usual treatment in Italy became TONS of anticoagulants as soon as your're getting more that the mildest symptoms. This really eases the pressure on hospitals because a bigger portion of people can ride it out at home. Poor countries are boned. Tafferling fucked around with this message at 06:37 on Jun 23, 2020 |
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Tafferling posted:I think Covid19 is a normal influenza. It's just that our immune system goes apeshit when it finds a flu strain not encountered as a kid. Children are mostly immune to this poo poo because their body treats it as any other flu they first come in contact with and files it up on things to remember. Source your quotes.
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Tafferling posted:I think Covid19 is a normal influenza. It's just that our immune system goes apeshit when it finds a flu strain not encountered as a kid. Children are mostly immune to this poo poo because their body treats it as any other flu they first come in contact with and files it up on things to remember. It's literally not influenza. Influenza is caused by influenza viruses. Covid is caused by a coronavirus. Totally different family of virus.
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sticksy posted:Do viruses frequently mutate to be LESS harmful? It's not unheard of. Mutations that reduce virulence but increase infectiousness are basically perfect for ensuring that strain is as successful as possible in reproducing.
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Im not in medicine, but I think the ideal for spreading is no symptoms and easy infection. Most symptoms are your body trying to get rid of the disease or to help the disease spread. Killing the host is self limiting.
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Even a Fox News poll shows a huge majority of people think that people wearing masks is OK, political rallies are a bad idea right now, and are somewhat to very concerned about the spread of coronavirus: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fox-news-poll-voters-say-yes-to-face-masks-no-to-rallies They could also only find 23% of people who said the spread was completely or mostly under control. When these are the numbers Fox is putting out, it should be relatively easy to pass new mitigation measures and get the vast majority of people following them but it's a boring narrative for the 24 hour news cycle so they keep trotting out these "what if...?" gently caress heads as if anybody wants to hear about some tech-fin bro's salvia dream about how blockchain can patent the virus and we'll all profit.
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greazeball posted:Even a Fox News poll shows a huge majority of people think that people wearing masks is OK Also doctors are speaking up and telling people that masks don't actually make you sick https://twitter.com/EM_RESUS/status/1275068477078818820
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Another Bill posted:chaque fois que j'entends le covid19 je me trouve perdu en pensant du Big Bird Larry mon larry
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Bleusilences posted:What's a speed coach? Speedwagons younger brother?
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Another Bill posted:chaque fois que j'entends le covid19 je me trouve perdu en pensant du Big Bird  
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Right my man, 69 cases yesterday!
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Sir Not Appearing posted:I don't know if anyone here would know, but how is the military handling coronavirus? I have a couple former students who just graduated and are excited to leave for basic. They've contacted me a few times about it and I'm happy that they're excited, but then I was just thinking about it and wondering how the military is handling it. Between barracks, dining, training, etc. it looks like they'd constantly be in close quarters all the time. I have a friend who has been in since HS. He is an MP in South Carolina now. I know a couple weeks ago he told me they were testing just over a thousand soldiers. Very few came back positive, and none of the 107 people under him were positive.
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I didn't see it mention here yet. In a german meat packing plant that has around 7000 workers they had an outbreak of the roni having more than 1500 testing positive. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53149762 The main issue was that the company housed a lot of workers from countries like Poland, Romania and Bulgaria in small lovely apartments where they almost slept shoulder to shoulder. The larger area around the plant is now under lockdown again. Good job capitalism.
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The funeral industry is, as Jessica Mitford put it in The American Way of Death back in 63, a fuckin poo poo rear end bitch It is okay to not worry about funeral directors and their predatory tactics against the grieving
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Bad news, guys. Swedish people are "starting to lose faith" in their country's handling of the COVID-19 outbreak. 59 000 cases and 5000+ deaths and they're only NOW starting to lose faith in a plan that was literally "do nothing and hope poo poo works itself out somehow"?
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Der Shovel posted:Bad news, guys. Swedish people are "starting to lose faith" in their country's handling of the COVID-19 outbreak. 59 000 cases and 5000+ deaths and they're only NOW starting to lose faith in a plan that was literally "do nothing and hope poo poo works itself out somehow"? To be fair that's a very swedish plan
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Der Shovel posted:Bad news, guys. Swedish people are "starting to lose faith" in their country's handling of the COVID-19 outbreak. 59 000 cases and 5000+ deaths and they're only NOW starting to lose faith in a plan that was literally "do nothing and hope poo poo works itself out somehow"? It's worked for Trump. Great plan.
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