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forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


I seem to have completely missed the New Years Revelations

(also UKMT Discord is racist against the King of Sports, pro wrestling, so obviously it's not fit for purpose)

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Paperhouse
Dec 31, 2008

I think
your hair
looks much
better
pushed
over to
one side

Pistol_Pete posted:

Considering the amount of time I spend on here, I'd be willing to pay a significant amount to preserve the community on a different platform :shrug:

I'm sure a lot of people would.

About 4 years ago some people at a board I was on created a new board because they didn't like some of what was happening on the original board. To my surprise, that new board is still going strong while the other one has died. I'd seen people make splinter boards before and never seen them last, but now I've seen that it can work!

Munin
Nov 14, 2004


Lowtax is the Landlord of this forum. Once again proving that...

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes
it's a shame we can't just fork every post in the entire forums without probably breaking some law of some kind

it is nice how the entire discussion of this i've seen on the forums has not been "oh but can we trust this" but immediately turned to "oh poo poo better find a way to never give him money again", though it's not as if lowtax was a particularly likeable and beloved guy in the first place i guess so maybe that's expected

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

CancerCakes posted:

Discord essentially uses a message board format, the difference is that low effort quick posts are more acceptable on a social media platform so it will move super fast. moderating out low effort posts would probably go someway towards an SA like feel.

Discussions not being paginated means it's effectively a chatroom, not a forum. If you're not paying attention to it every moment, you miss discussions. It's not like this sort of format where replying ten or fifteen minutes later feels appropriate and normal, and replying tyhe following day might even feel OK depending on the weight of the discussion.

And the idea of moving is just... plain nonfunctional, for all the same reasons everyone talks about moving off twitter to mastodon or off facebook to ???? - userbases are not fungible in that way, and unless everyone both agrees where to go AND knows about the agreement in time, the userbase just fractures. It's exactly what happened with Tumblr.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Paperhouse posted:

About 4 years ago some people at a board I was on created a new board because they didn't like some of what was happening on the original board. To my surprise, that new board is still going strong while the other one has died. I'd seen people make splinter boards before and never seen them last, but now I've seen that it can work!
Yeah, splinters either seem to carry over a bunch of power politics that caused the split in the first place and eat themselves, or they're because the original admin got bored and so it's just the continuity [forum name].

On rare occasion they can work.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

Angepain posted:

it's a shame we can't just fork every post in the entire forums without probably breaking some law of some kind

it is nice how the entire discussion of this i've seen on the forums has not been "oh but can we trust this" but immediately turned to "oh poo poo better find a way to never give him money again", though it's not as if lowtax was a particularly likeable and beloved guy in the first place i guess so maybe that's expected

we did that the last time he beat up his wife tbf

EvilHawk
Sep 15, 2009

LIVARPOOL!

Klopp's 13pts clear thanks to video ref

Lowtax is an rear end in a top hat and it sucks this website is tainted with his presence.

Discord is weird. My friend group have kind of moved over there during lockdown because we can play games and chat to each other, but I found keeping up with the UKMT channel loving exhausting at times. I can quite happily scroll through hundreds of posts here after a few days out but doing the same for a channel seems much harder.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Munin posted:

Lowtax is the Landlord of this forum. Once again proving that...

i wonder if it is possible to actually create online communities that aren't ultimately owned by a single person or if the infrastructure of the internet has been permanently tainted by capitalism

i did like that brief moment in internet history when everyone convinced themselves decentralised content aggregation could create a utopian internet free of hierarchical structures or whatever and then 90% of people found themselves gradually forced to use one of four websites owned by big companies run by dickheads because despite pretending the internet has no laws it still lives In A Society

one of these days i will get a method of analysing the world more nuanced than pointing at every problem and saying "see this, that's capitalism's fault, uhh somehow, probably, gently caress capitalism" but today is not that day

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

https://twitter.com/fliceverett/status/1275708222272348162

holy moly

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
You ever suddenly remember that Russia and the US still have thousands of nukes pointed at each other and Trump or Putin could set them off at the push of a button?

I feel kinda similar with Lowtax and the forums.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Angepain posted:

one of these days i will get a method of analysing the world more nuanced than pointing at every problem and saying "see this, that's capitalism's fault, uhh somehow, probably, gently caress capitalism" but today is not that day

I have yet to find a situation that I cannot do that with.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

forkboy84 posted:

I seem to have completely missed the New Years Revelations

(also UKMT Discord is racist against the King of Sports, pro wrestling, so obviously it's not fit for purpose)

Given the large number of UK wrestlers currently being outed as physical and sexual abusers, you really picked your time to die on that hill.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Angepain posted:

it's a shame we can't just fork every post in the entire forums without probably breaking some law of some kind

it is nice how the entire discussion of this i've seen on the forums has not been "oh but can we trust this" but immediately turned to "oh poo poo better find a way to never give him money again", though it's not as if lowtax was a particularly likeable and beloved guy in the first place i guess so maybe that's expected

Oh no, not laws. It's not like the internet makes shuffling website jurisdiction a nightmare and lowtax wouldn't have enough money for the lawyers to follow it all up.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

OwlFancier posted:

I have yet to find a situation that I cannot do that with.

Given that literally all problems are capitalism's fault in at least some way, this is unsurprising.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Sure, but like, I do feel sometimes like I'm not really putting the effort in because I can just point and go "capitalism" for any problem.

Feel like dialectical materialism is supposed to be at least slightly difficult.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

OwlFancier posted:

Sure, but like, I do feel sometimes like I'm not really putting the effort in because I can just point and go "capitalism" for any problem.

Feel like dialectical materialism is supposed to be at least slightly difficult.

This, too, is capitalism's fault.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Jedit posted:

Given the large number of UK wrestlers currently being outed as physical and sexual abusers, you really picked your time to die on that hill.

It's not just UK wrestlers, it's the entire western wrestling world. And not just physical & sexual abusers, plenty of mental abuse too. All round awful.

But no one is suggesting deleting the TV/films sub in the Discord despite everything we know about the horrendous abuse stories we've had coming out of Hollywood the past several years. There's abusive shiteholes in every industry, from finance to comics, wrestling isn't unique, though it is perhaps uniquely bad in how easy the coverup has been because of the secretive "carny" nature of the business.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Is the british japan anti tory wrestling guy still cool?

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Dabir posted:

Discord is a very good piece of chatroom software, but it's a chatroom, not a message board. It doesn't have discrete threads to package discussions into. Imagine if you merged every single thread in each subforum into one horrible gigathread, it would be unreadable.

Yes. Imagine if there was a megathread, for those of us from the UK :ohdear:

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)
loving hell, I didn't expect to wake up to this.

If the forums go down it'll be a goddamn shame.

The sheer amount of information, knowledge and expertise here is totally unique. I learned/have been advised about lifting, dieting, mental health treatment, politics (this more than anything else), history, cinematography, building my own PC, here, and more. I'm a hundred pages into the ancient history thread and have 800 to go, and I'm learning all kinds of cool poo poo there too. I genuinely can't think of a topic that I wouldn't be able to look up here, or get advice from experts about

gently caress you lowtax, you're a pile of dirt but we built a city on top of you

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Angepain posted:

i wonder if it is possible to actually create online communities that aren't ultimately owned by a single person or if the infrastructure of the internet has been permanently tainted by capitalism

i did like that brief moment in internet history when everyone convinced themselves decentralised content aggregation could create a utopian internet free of hierarchical structures or whatever and then 90% of people found themselves gradually forced to use one of four websites owned by big companies run by dickheads because despite pretending the internet has no laws it still lives In A Society

one of these days i will get a method of analysing the world more nuanced than pointing at every problem and saying "see this, that's capitalism's fault, uhh somehow, probably, gently caress capitalism" but today is not that day
Extremely :same:

There was a time when everything was going to be FOSS and the state would wither as transnational groups of cosplaying stemlords would download their own bread. It was all very 17th century utopianism and relied on pretending that existing entrenched power hierarchies didn't own the underlying infrastructure and that venture capital wasn't more interested in disrupting municipal services to make a new gilded age.

I guess you could look back in history for lessons and try owning a website as a Rochdale Cooperative or something.

Did you know that Ghana, a country that Britain once owned, contains people who can not only write, but also have their own internal narratives? I did not until now. This disproves systemic racism. I do not even see the colour of the blacks on screen. Sincerely Karen Pears.

OwlFancier posted:

Sure, but like, I do feel sometimes like I'm not really putting the effort in because I can just point and go "capitalism" for any problem.

Feel like dialectical materialism is supposed to be at least slightly difficult.
The contradictions are supposed to make themselves more evident over time. In the mid-90s you'd be a weird Trot sect guy and probably a jazz nonce if you could point to everything and say "capitalism".

Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

feedmegin posted:

Yes. Imagine if there was a megathread, for those of us from the UK :ohdear:

imagine if all the posts in here were mixed in with auspol and europol and uspol and riotchat and dem primaries and

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Barry Foster posted:

loving hell, I didn't expect to wake up to this.

If the forums go down it'll be a goddamn shame.

The sheer amount of information, knowledge and expertise here is totally unique. I learned/have been advised about lifting, dieting, mental health treatment, politics (this more than anything else), history, cinematography, building my own PC, here, and more. I'm a hundred pages into the ancient history thread and have 800 to go, and I'm learning all kinds of cool poo poo there too. I genuinely can't think of a topic that I wouldn't be able to look up here, or get advice from experts about

gently caress you lowtax, you're a pile of dirt but we built a city on top of you

Seriously I might have to like... join reddit or something. ew.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

thespaceinvader posted:

Seriously I might have to like... join reddit or something. ew.

nah gently caress that

if/when SA ends then I'll probably just need to fully re-enter Real Life, I'm not going on reddit or twitter or whatever

Venomous
Nov 7, 2011





I spent thirty loving dollars on this forum

gently caress you Lowtax

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


OwlFancier posted:

Is the british japan anti tory wrestling guy still cool?

So far Zack Sabre Jr is still good yes, but David Starr who was a leading voice for pro wrestlers unionising has been outed as a completely horrible human being. Like, so bad he'd fit in with the SWP.

Barry Foster posted:

nah gently caress that

if/when SA ends then I'll probably just need to fully re-enter Real Life

Goondolences. I will be doing my utmost to avoid that.

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Barry Foster posted:

nah gently caress that

if/when SA ends then I'll probably just need to fully re-enter Real Life, I'm not going on reddit or twitter or whatever

That sounds worse if anything.

(Also real life will not return until there's a covid vaccine at the very least, for me and mine :( )

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Yeah I was going to say, have you seen Real Life at the moment. It's bad.

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

thespaceinvader posted:

That sounds worse if anything.

(Also real life will not return until there's a covid vaccine at the very least, for me and mine :( )

Similar

I suppose I could/should spend more time outside looking at trees or whatever, but yeah there'll be very little social interaction otherwise

willie_dee
Jun 21, 2010
I obtain sexual gratification from observing people being inflicted with violent head injuries
God drat it. This place is where I have learnt and developed the most.

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
Finally I'll be able to get off my rear end and start my business printing X-Files mousemats :hehe:

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!
In all seriousness i will probably find some leftist shitposting groups on facebook and be sadder.

But equally, not spending all my time here might give me back some motivation to like... read and make art.

I somehow doubt it.

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Jose Mengelez posted:

we'll never reach the "orwell would have words for antifa!"

I mean to be fair, that word was 'comrade', possibly followed by 'could you kindly pass me some more rounds for my Mosin-Nagant so I can shoot at this Spanish fascist myself?'

Venomous
Nov 7, 2011





willie_dee posted:

God drat it. This place is where I have learnt and developed the most.

Same tbh. If it wasn't for this place, this thread in particular, I probably wouldn't be such an ardent socialist. Thank you all for always being on the right side of history, especially when this rainy fascist island hasn't been since 1979.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
since this might be the last chance to post these

:nws: these are an aussie goons prolapse photos. said aussie goon posted the saga of how he had to go to hospital and get surgery because he self fisted while using a butt plug and got it stuck inside himself

https://imgur.com/9eLH5M0
https://imgur.com/g702r1l
https://imgur.com/qTQoyYL

Barry Foster
Dec 24, 2007

What is going wrong with that one (face is longer than it should be)

thespaceinvader posted:

In all seriousness i will probably find some leftist shitposting groups on facebook and be sadder.

But equally, not spending all my time here might give me back some motivation to like... read and make art.

I somehow doubt it.

hahah, that was my first thought too 'now you'll be productive again', but lol nah I'll just end up staring at the walls

Marmaduke!
May 19, 2009

Why would it do that!?

Guavanaut posted:

Did you know that Ghana, a country that Britain once owned, contains people who can not only write, but also have their own internal narratives? I did not until now. This disproves systemic racism. I do not even see the colour of the blacks on screen. Sincerely Karen Pears.

My work had us all take an "unconscious bias" course a few weeks back, to stop us from judging people or being racist. It was written as if it was a really shocking revelation that even black people can have degrees! And it ended with a heart-stirring slideshow of successful minorities, in which they showed one picture of a successful black woman (twice, presumably because it was too much effort for them to bother finding a second one).

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Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

Jose posted:

since this might be the last chance to post these

:nws: these are an aussie goons prolapse photos. said aussie goon posted the saga of how he had to go to hospital and get surgery because he self fisted while using a butt plug and got it stuck inside himself


Thanks, Jose :)

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