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Guavanaut posted:That's really one of the best pieces of medical evidence that gender identity is real and valid. It is anyway, but the 70s feminist idea that it's all a social construct and if you raise a child as [gender] then that's what they'll be got heavily heavily challenged by all these men that it was easier to feminize at birth. I had that exact phrase used against me on FB. Do they go to Terf school to learn it? (All I did was share that science article someone shared a couple of weeks ago about intersex/gender identity etcon a post someone made supporting JKR. Also had someone literally say she knew better because she had an MSc in biology. I did post (and immediately delete) a reply saying "I see your MSc and raise you one PhD" (though as my PhD is in a 'hard science' unconnected with biology except possibly at the more esoteric end, it probably wasn't relevant.) The woman who had written the article also had an MSc in biology - so who is to say which MSc in biology was trumps?
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My PhD in biology says "who gives a poo poo where people take a poo poo you numpties". Also "pay me more"
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Failed Imagineer posted:"There's a frontpage?" (Read with a wistful nostalgic tone) The day returns, but nevermore Returns the poster to the forum, And the tide rises, the tide falls.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:I had that exact phrase used against me on FB. Do they go to Terf school to learn it? They probably hang around terf twitter and regurgitate the same half dozen points because actual reality does not support their position. Same reason the right has literally one joke about it "I identify as an attack helicopter"
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I've learned a lot from lurking here. Thanks for being full of cool people, UKMT.
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Are there many active non specialist forums about on the internet or are they all dying off? I much prefer the format but only lurk here & one other place which seems to have dwindled to a handful of regulars
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I've pretty much lurked the last ten years but I'll still miss it.
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Is there a serious likelihood of this forum disappearing?
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I've lurked here for yonks. This thread has influenced by politics greatly, and massively warped my sense of humor.
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JoylessJester posted:I've lurked here for yonks. This thread has influenced by politics greatly, and massively warped my sense of humor. Very poor name/post combo 
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I have made a lot of bad posts on these forums over the years and I want to take this moment to thank you all for reading them.
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I registered in I think 04 (possibly 05) and mostly lurked until. BYOB came around when I was 17 or so. I then migrated to LF to complete my radicalisation from the centre left until I got banned by someone *cough*Cefte posted:I've pretty much lurked the last ten years but I'll still miss it. And had to re-reg because I'd lost access to the original email my account was on. After the death of LF I've mostly gone back to lurking again but I am going to miss it.
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Ash Crimson posted:Is there a serious likelihood of this forum disappearing? We don't know, it might, or it might just become somewhere you wouldn't want to post. But join the discord if you would like to.
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mudskipp posted:Are there many active non specialist forums about on the internet or are they all dying off? I much prefer the format but only lurk here & one other place which seems to have dwindled to a handful of regulars Forums really started dying off in the early 2010s with the rise of FB. The next best thing Yahoo Groups finally died last year. Freecycle died off as yahoo groups died away - facebook just isn't the right medium for it with posts jumping all over the place as someone presses 'like' or makes a comment. of course, there's mumsnet, netmums, gransnet....
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OwlFancier posted:We don't know, it might, or it might just become somewhere you wouldn't want to post. But join the discord if you would like to. Will do so
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OwlFancier posted:We don't know, it might, or it might just become somewhere you wouldn't want to post. But join the discord if you would like to. Much like Britain, its only options are a) die b) become a Nazi stronghold c) continued slide into irrelevance
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I’ve lurked SA for like 14 years, I decided 2020 would be the year I made more than one post! Oh well. Thanks for all your jokes and interesting posts. I hope a replacement forums can be created 
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Guavanaut posted:That's really one of the best pieces of medical evidence that gender identity is real and valid. It is anyway, but the 70s feminist idea that it's all a social construct and if you raise a child as [gender] then that's what they'll be got heavily heavily challenged by all these men that it was easier to feminize at birth. Weren't there also a couple of cases where circumcision of baby boys went wrong and they were brought up female but it caused them severe mental issues later in life?
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While I've always had lefty views, this thread made me better at articulating and understanding them. Its also made me angrier, but in a good way. Lowtax can do one, hopefully this site can live without him.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:I prefer the words to stand still til I get round to them This is very well put and exactly how I feel. Chatrooms move too fast, and don't get me started on the rageohol when Twitter, Facebook et al say "oops, we see you accidentally set your timeline to chronological, don't worry, we've put it back in nonsense mess order for you". Or when they don't say that but do it anyway 
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mudskipp posted:Are there many active non specialist forums about on the internet or are they all dying off? I much prefer the format but only lurk here & one other place which seems to have dwindled to a handful of regulars The OCUK forums have a wide range of off topic areas and are much less fash than they used to be (although they are quite Lib Dem). They could use an influx of Marx.
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Blasmeister posted:The discord has way too many channels but the cat one is nice Yeah it stressed me out
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Blasmeister posted:The discord has way too many channels but the cat one is nice tried twice but still waiting for access, not sure if i did something wrong
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Over the last decade+ I've made some bad posts and some good friends. Thanks to this place for turning me from a dumb babby idiot who voted Lib Dem in 2010 into the jaded Corbynista outrider leftist I am today. In conclusion, UKMT is a land of contrasts and I hope it doesn't die.
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mudskipp posted:Are there many active non specialist forums about on the internet or are they all dying off? I much prefer the format but only lurk here & one other place which seems to have dwindled to a handful of regulars Digital Spy is still around, and although the main focus is TV shows it does have reasonably active general discussion and politics subforums, at least it did the last time I checked. The politics forum does skew very heavily centrist/Lib Dem and the quality of posting isn't particularly great, especially compared to this thread. It is also pretty much unreadable around election times. The general forum is mostly just things like "name a band beginning with the last letter of the band the previous poster mentioned", so make of that what you will. As Jaeluni said, the traditional forums do seem to have been dying off in the face of social media. Although Facebook isn't great for these kinds of discussions, especially when I have to use my real name, and Twitter is even worse. Hopefully Discord can prove a viable alternative if it comes to that.
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I've been lurking on SA from Ireland for 15 years, and earlier iterations of this thread back in the LF days turned me into a socialist. I'm 42 years old, I don't do social media and can't keep up with the likes of Discord, so these worthless dead forums are my internet home. I almost never post because by the time I've thought of something worthwhile or interesting to say someone else has usually said it far better than I ever could, but if lowtax nukes the forums I'll really miss the posters here.
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You ever just look back and laugh at the stuff you forgot ever happened even though it should be forever in your mind? Mind when Norman Tebbit attacked a child for being Chinese?
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big scary monsters posted:I wonder what b3ta is up to these days. every now and then I give it a quick look for internet-nostalgia reasons and am surprised to find it still apparently chugging along, albeit at a much, much slower pace
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big scary monsters posted:I wonder what b3ta is up to these days. They still send out an email once a week. They also have a Patreon but have managed to avoid the whole domestic violence thing.
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Found this place by laughing at the "why you throw chip" Photoshop thread. Surely it can't be that difficult to find another home?
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I mostly lurk on the forums - but like everyone else, this thread in particular has been a great help. It's taught me a lot about politics (aka radicalised me to the commie cause), a whole bunch of other cool stuff, made me a better person and just been really fun. I registered originally to follow Let's Plays and didn't venture outside of that subforum for years. Even though there's whole chunks of the forums I never really looked at, the places I did venture to have been great. And if you're lurking and unsure, join the UKMT discord - we don't know what will happen next, but it's the best place to follow. EDIT:: VVVVV - the below is 100% true DroneRiff fucked around with this message at 20:59 on Jun 24, 2020 |
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I registered to read an Icewind Dale LP and now I'm a communist
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DroneRiff posted:I mostly lurk on the forums - but like everyone else, this thread in particular has been a great help. It's taught me a lot about politics (aka radicalised me to the commie cause), a whole bunch of other cool stuff, made me a better person and just been really fun. I registered originally to follow Let's Plays and didn't venture outside of that subforum for years. Even though there's whole chunks of the forums I never really looked at, the places I did venture to have been great. I have joined 3 Discords & 2 offsites today. All "just in case"
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We could jump ship to theforum365.com which was recently set up as a lifeboat for the football365.com forum which has been dying for years. Their Labour thread is embarrassing and it would be nice to have more comrades fighting the good fight against the tide of Sensible Centrists.
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I registered to reread an old LP. The one where the thread read those old Mario Nintendo Adventure books. Most of the images in that LP are broken now. Though I mostly lurked this thread, it's done a great deal to inform me about politics in general. And whether this thread is the last one, or these forums limp on into the future, I just wanted to say thanks, thread.
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Forums really started dying off in the early 2010s with the rise of FB. The next best thing Yahoo Groups finally died last year. Mid/late 90s was IRC/MUD, newsgroups (mostly reading not posting), group emails, and a lot of passive consumption of websites, 00s was forums (science and eng ones mostly), IRC, MSN messenger, and a lot of sharing of pdfs, 10s was this place and facebook. It does seem to divide quite neatly, with youtube coming in too but never read the comments. I hope the 20s still has something like this place for effortposts and reading at a steady pace, I agree that discord is more like hopping into a conversation than reading an article. Jaeluni Asjil posted:Weren't there also a couple of cases where circumcision of baby boys went wrong and they were brought up female but it caused them severe mental issues later in life? All of which further undermines the terf claim about weaponizing intersex (which I assume comes from them all following each other to better ignore science, like OwlFancier said. All kids would be better off in life if surgeons left their genitals alone at birth, and intersex kids would grow up happier and healthier if the surgeons didn't 'correct' and if society didn't consider them 'weird'.
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