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21st Cherry boy posted:Why the gently caress are people such babies about masks Because it's political. If you're Republican you don't wear a mask. If you do, you're a lib. It's really that dumb.
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Philthy posted:Because it's political. If you're Republican you don't wear a mask. If you do, you're a lib. It's really that dumb. And then endless conspiracy theories to justify to themselves why their kneejerk reaction is correct.
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Jun 25, 2020 04:37
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it is a simple equation. the virus is either (A) real as gently caress and will kill you, or (B) hoax just a flu in example (A) wearing a mask is a good thing in example (B) wearing a mask does not hurt anything and is probably a good thing anyways because you fugly
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Jun 25, 2020 04:43
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dee eight posted:it is a simple equation. the virus is either (A) real as gently caress and will kill you, or (B) hoax just a flu Wrong. Have you ever thought about MY FREEDOMS?!!
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Jun 25, 2020 04:44
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21st Cherry boy posted:Why the gently caress are people such babies about masks Many Americans are out of shape and short of breath with any activity at all.
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Jun 25, 2020 04:46
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they don't do much to protect you, and the government telling you to do something to benefit someone else is socialism
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Jun 25, 2020 04:47
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Pennywise the Frown posted:Wrong. Have you ever thought about MY FREEDOMS?!! my mom > your freedumbs where a mask or i cut u bithc
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Jun 25, 2020 04:49
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Pennywise the Frown posted:Wrong. Have you ever thought about MY FREEDOMS?!! I'm guessing that if Trump had come out early in favor of masks the chuds would have made a point of wearing them. And probably he (or his buddies) would have made bank selling them MAGA masks, but at least more people would be wearing masks.
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Jun 25, 2020 04:52
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the going theory is a mask would gently caress up his clown makeup they spray coat him with can't have that
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Jun 25, 2020 04:53
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I wouldn't mind if maga masks were popular because at least people would wear them AND I would know who I can safely roll my eyes at and avoid conversation with. I mean I know to avoid maskless people anyway but it would be better if they weren't maskless.
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Jun 25, 2020 04:55
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Consider a bare face to be the new MAGA mask.
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Jun 25, 2020 04:56
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zer0spunk posted:the going theory is a mask would gently caress up his clown makeup they spray coat him with Because it already looks immaculate around his eyes and hairline. A mask would at least hide his jowls! Maybe someone should point that out to him. He's vain as gently caress isn't he? Which is hilarious for someone so disgusting looking in every way.
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Jun 25, 2020 04:57
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Sir John Falstaff posted:I'm guessing that if Trump had come out early in favor of masks the chuds would have made a point of wearing them. And probably he (or his buddies) would have made bank selling them MAGA masks, but at least more people would be wearing masks. This is 100% true.
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Jun 25, 2020 05:04
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I work in a large ER and the numbers I have heard tossed around are that we are seeing a 30% miss rate in our tests.
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Jun 25, 2020 05:13
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So weird that more people don't want to wear masks, because anecdotally it increases your attractiveness by a thousand-fold. Not just because you think 'oh good, another fellow human taking this seriously', but also because it lets people hide their horrendous meth teeth, lovely beards, and hosed up voices! Masks all the time, I say! It's like that one MAD magazine cartoon where the woman marries a guy with a fuckin' bodacious beard and then he shaves it off on their wedding night only to reveal he has no chin and looks like an amphibian. Most CHUDs fall firmly in this category so you'd think they would be happy to capitalize!
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Jun 25, 2020 05:14
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Amarcarts posted:I work in a large ER and the numbers I have heard tossed around are that we are seeing a 30% miss rate in our tests. The brain stabbing ones or the shallow swabs?
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Jun 25, 2020 05:14
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"Contract tracing in Wanzhou (China) found 2,088 individuals who had been in close contact with COVID-19 patients. 215 of these people tested positive for SARS-CoV-2 by RT-PCR. Of these, 37 (17%) never developed obvious symptoms although most of them had lung opacities (evidence of infection). The asymptomatic patients continued to shed virus for a median duration of 19 days whereas the patients with symptoms shed virus for a median duration of 14 days. However, the test for shedding virus is the very sensitive RT-PCR test and it doesn't necessarily detect active virus particles. About 80% of infected patients (asymptomatic and symptomatic) developed antibodies to SARS-CoV-2 but the antibody levels were higher in the patients with obvious symptoms suggesting that a more severe infection leads to more antibodies. Antibody levels declined by more than 70% in all patients after eight weeks of convalescence and some patients tested negative for antibodies (IgG) after convalescence. "Together, these data might indicate the risks of using COVID-19 ‘immunity passports’ and support the prolongation of public health interventions, including social distancing, hygiene, isolation of high-risk groups and widespread testing. Additional longitudinal serological studies profiling more symptomatic and asymptomatic individuals are urgently needed to determine the duration of antibody-mediated immunity. In addition, low levels of anti-viral IgG in asymptomatic patients, who might be more likely to become seronegative, further support the need for timely serosurvey to study the true infection rate." Long, Q.-X., X.-J. Tang, Q.-L. Shi, Q. Li, H.-J. Deng, J. Yuan, J.-L. Hu, W. Xu, Y. Zhang and F.-J. Lv (2020). "Clinical and immunological assessment of asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 infections." Nature Medicine: 1-5 [doi: 10.1038/s41591-020-0965-6] "
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Jun 25, 2020 05:52
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:The US just had its highest ever single day of reported cases, and even the rolling seven day average is higher than it was during the 'peak' back in early April. Whoowee lookit her go! Saw off Florida already
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Jun 25, 2020 07:58
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Casinos are re-closing around the one I work at while we continue to spit in fate's fuckin face. The forums are owned by a domestic abuser. I'm out.
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Jun 25, 2020 13:08
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So how do these charts compare to 1918? Feels like we are doing a speedrun of the first wave.
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Jun 25, 2020 14:16
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So Ischgl, one of the biggest corona hotspots in Austria, that was the source of a lot of European tourists infections, had an antibody rate of 42%. https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020/06/25/world/europe/25reuters-health-coronavirus-austria-ischgl.html
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Jun 25, 2020 15:01
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM8dtQjAvRE If this mask poo poo was in a movie I say it was so stupid and unrealistic to portray people like that. Whoops.
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Jun 25, 2020 15:06
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SM8dtQjAvRE Placeholder post for the inevitable 'guy who thinks covid is no big deal gets serious case/dies' followup
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Jun 25, 2020 15:12
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I rent a row house in OH. Am I allowed to refuse entry to workers if they don't wear masks? I am getting windows measured for replacement, should only take a few minutes, I'll be gone when they do the actual work. I will put up a sign asking them to and saying I have free sanitary unused masks. Not really trying to get into a tentant/landlord dispute atm so I'll just hope the second route works.
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Jun 25, 2020 15:14
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I am simply not understanding why people in this country manages to find a way to divide on every possible aspect of human life. It's like if I told someone a verifiable scientific fact that they need to breathe air in order to live, there will be a group of people who will argue and say they only need to breathe hydrogen sulfide. These people will argue that needing oxygen to live is a myth created by liberal elites and go find the nearest mushroom composting facility, breathe in as much hydrogen sulfide as possible, then instantly die to "own the libs." There should be no debate about wearing a goddamn mask during a viral pandemic spread through aerosol droplets coming out of people's noses and throats. This culture in America of letting people believe whatever they want is literally killing people in greater numbers and at a faster rate than the goddamn Civil War. G-III fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Jun 25, 2020 |
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Jun 25, 2020 15:18
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Michael Corleone posted:I rent a row house in OH. Am I allowed to refuse entry to workers if they don't wear masks? I am getting windows measured for replacement, should only take a few minutes, I'll be gone when they do the actual work. I will put up a sign asking them to and saying I have free sanitary unused masks. Not really trying to get into a tentant/landlord dispute atm so I'll just hope the second route works. If you're gone, I'm not sure why you care, beyond the general idea that everyone should wear masks. Or how you'd enforce it, for that matter.
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Jun 25, 2020 15:23
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Because the virus can hang around after they leave?
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Jun 25, 2020 15:25
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I'll be here for the measuring tomorrow. I have a cat don't want him getting breathed on, etc. Ya I fully expect they won't be wearing masks when they do the actual work so I'll santitize as much as I can when they are done.
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Jun 25, 2020 15:28
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Platystemon posted:Because the virus can hang around after they leave? Hmm, I thought I'd read that it didn't stay in the air that long. But googling suggests it can stay in the air for up to three hours, so yeah--good point. Still could be hard to enforce, though. Sir John Falstaff fucked around with this message at 15:34 on Jun 25, 2020 |
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Jun 25, 2020 15:30
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Platystemon posted:Because the virus can hang around after they leave? So go in there guns akimbo with two disinfectants like your in an action movie.
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Jun 25, 2020 15:30
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My understanding is that aerosol transmission only seems to be a large factor when you're spending long hours together indoors with poor ventilation, especially if it's noisy and you have to yell at each other, but it's not really lingering in the air for hours and passing from room to room through the vents like TB. Open the windows maybe.
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Jun 25, 2020 15:35
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Platystemon posted:Because the virus can hang around after they leave? There’s no proof of transmission human-surface-Human. The virus does just fine airborne. experts believe if there is surface transmission, it’s ineffective. Edit: droplets eventually fall, they don’t just chill out forever in the air. Zugzwang posted:This is basically correct. Months ago, I heard a good interview with Dr. Peter Hotez discussing coronavirus vaccines. IIRC he said that they had identified a promising vaccine candidate for SARS-CoV-1 way back in the day, and then right before clinical trials in humans, funding was pulled because the original SARS burned out and funding agencies stopped caring. This one had passed through some animal testing and didn't show the antibody-dependent enhancement that prior CoV vaccine candidates did. And that's just one example. Didn’t a candidate or two of the SARS vaccines kill a bunch of people? I can’t seem to find anything about it. Maybe I’m misremembering... mitztronic fucked around with this message at 15:44 on Jun 25, 2020 |
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Jun 25, 2020 15:36
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How did the poor sap on the Wuhan bus get it, thirty minutes after the infected passenger left? It’s hanging around somewhere.
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Jun 25, 2020 15:37
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Platystemon posted:How did the poor sap on the Wuhan bus get it, thirty minutes after the infected passenger left? that study was retracted quickly iirc e: https://retractionwatch.com/2020/04/22/study-claiming-broader-spread-of-aerosolized-coronavirus-is-retracted/
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Jun 25, 2020 15:38
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I got myself a high efficiency filter capable of catching viruses and set it behind a box fan of equal size. Not sure whether it catches sars-cov-2, but at least it smells pleasantly neutral in here all the time now. Way cheaper than buying an air cleaner.
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Jun 25, 2020 15:47
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rt4 posted:I got myself a high efficiency filter capable of catching viruses and set it behind a box fan of equal size. Not sure whether it catches sars-cov-2, but at least it smells pleasantly neutral in here all the time now. Way cheaper than buying an air cleaner. It filters everything but covid, you're super hosed
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Jun 25, 2020 15:48
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rt4 posted:I got myself a high efficiency filter capable of catching viruses and set it behind a box fan of equal size. Not sure whether it catches sars-cov-2, but at least it smells pleasantly neutral in here all the time now. Way cheaper than buying an air cleaner. Are you wearing it on your face ?
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Jun 25, 2020 16:20
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G-III posted:I am simply not understanding why people in this country manages to find a way to divide on every possible aspect of human life. Sometimes I have this thought that just plain stupidity is a limiting factor on any civilization's development. Like we'd be well on the way to the Star Trek future but... yeah. Then again I think Star Trek canon involves a nuclear war. We're probably dumb enough to do that too.
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Jun 25, 2020 16:26
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Polygynous posted:Sometimes I have this thought that just plain stupidity is a limiting factor on any civilization's development. Like we'd be well on the way to the Star Trek future but... yeah. Then again I think Star Trek canon involves a nuclear war. We're probably dumb enough to do that too.
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unpacked robinhood posted:Are you wearing it on your face ? No, I just carry it around whenever I'm out of the house
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