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mind the walrus
Sep 22, 2006

JazzFlight posted:

While I think Bread and Roses has potential, it's kinda obvious that half of the forum breakdown (the Bread part) is a ghost town, while the other half (Roses) is closer to what SA offers.

If goons move there, it'd have to restructure a lot of its layout and subforums if it's going to be an equivalent successor.
Yeah it's not bad for what it's trying to be, in fact I quite like it on those terms, but if it actually wants to be an SA successor it needs to hem way closer to SA's strengths in terms of layout and organization.

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CharlestonJew
Jul 7, 2011

Illegal Hen

Ruflux posted:

Isn't that just literally Bread N Roses or whatever

The bit about ResetEra's (NeoGAF followup) founding that its posters and admins didn't bother to tell you was that it was founded by a very insular group of politically aligned posters originating from the neoliberal hellhole politics megathread on GAF who were planning the site and the move well before any accusations of the admin being a sex pest showed up. It's why they got things set up so fast to begin with. All because they didn't like how GAF was being run or moderated and basically just wanted a modicum of power for themselves

That's exactly what BnR is or am I dumb and missed the joke here

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

CharlestonJew posted:

That's exactly what BnR is or am I dumb and missed the joke here

there was no joke? I literally started the message with isn't that just literally BnR lmao. ResetEra happens to have an eerily similar set of circumstances surrounding it. the only thing different was they pitched themselves as GAF 2, but better, while BnR is at least honest about being different from SA in various key ways

RE has the same type of circular firing squad problems everyone keeps predicting for BnR too

Starman Super DX
Oct 17, 2011

This title text is surprisingly sturdy.

Ruflux posted:

RE has the same type of circular firing squad problems everyone keeps predicting for BnR too

I didn’t pay super close attention to this drama but isn’t that exactly what happened when BnR started up? :thunk:

CharlestonJew
Jul 7, 2011

Illegal Hen

Ruflux posted:

there was no joke? I literally started the message with isn't that just literally BnR lmao. ResetEra happens to have an eerily similar set of circumstances surrounding it. the only thing different was they pitched themselves as GAF 2, but better, while BnR is at least honest about being different from SA in various key ways

RE has the same type of circular firing squad problems everyone keeps predicting for BnR too

Oh I guess I misread it, sorry

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.

Ruflux posted:

Isn't that just literally Bread N Roses or whatever

The bit about ResetEra's (NeoGAF followup) founding that its posters and admins didn't bother to tell you was that it was founded by a very insular group of politically aligned posters originating from the neoliberal hellhole politics megathread on GAF who were planning the site and the move well before any accusations of the admin being a sex pest showed up. It's why they got things set up so fast to begin with. All because they didn't like how GAF was being run or moderated and basically just wanted a modicum of power for themselves

Holy cow! Didn't know about this. Where'd you hear this from?

Ayin
Jan 6, 2010

Have a great day.
pretty sure SomethingSensitive was founded by creeps, stalkers, and random idiots who were all mad about being banned from SA

is it still that

Hardawn
Mar 15, 2004

Don't look at the sun, but rather what it illuminates
College Slice

Ayin posted:

pretty sure SomethingSensitive was founded by creeps, stalkers, and random idiots who were all mad about being banned from SA

is it still that

Tis the curse of fledgling off-sites. If the main topic is about the exodus from wherever it won't be long before radio silence. Even worse if the posters are a pack of wild dogs.

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

punk rebel ecks posted:

Holy cow! Didn't know about this. Where'd you hear this from?

it's been talked about on NeoGAF offsites and wasn't that big of a secret really - just seeing the same names that used to post in PoliGAF (the megathread) suddenly be admins/mods/site owner of ResetEra when it was launched along with some leaks and such here and there. the site owner, Cerium, was a big politics thread poster in particular IIRC. I'm not that well-versed in the stuff because I left the site once it started to become too insufferable about a year ago and most that I've heard is basically incredibly obvious 2 + 2 = 4 stuff.

je1 healthcare
Sep 29, 2015
I heard 4chan was an offshoot. Has anyone heard good things about it?

punk rebel ecks
Dec 11, 2010

A shitty post? This calls for a dance of deduction.

Ruflux posted:

it's been talked about on NeoGAF offsites and wasn't that big of a secret really - just seeing the same names that used to post in PoliGAF (the megathread) suddenly be admins/mods/site owner of ResetEra when it was launched along with some leaks and such here and there. the site owner, Cerium, was a big politics thread poster in particular IIRC. I'm not that well-versed in the stuff because I left the site once it started to become too insufferable about a year ago and most that I've heard is basically incredibly obvious 2 + 2 = 4 stuff.

I see. Thank you.

Woof Blitzer
Dec 29, 2012

[-]
The offsites are going to fail in 6 months when people start fighting with each other over something petty.

AHH F/UGH
May 25, 2002


No I just want SA, not SA run by FYAD

ninjoatse.cx
Apr 9, 2005

Fun Shoe

Ayin posted:

pretty sure SomethingSensitive was founded by creeps, stalkers, and random idiots who were all mad about being banned from SA

is it still that

well, it;'s mostly a ghost town. That's the sad part about alot of the offshoots... there are just no people. BnR looks like a good refuge for C-Spammers, but everyone else is kinda poo poo outta luck.

a dmc delorean
Jul 2, 2006

Live the dream

Sir Not Appearing posted:

Same. I was on there briefly a while back and I thought it had a similar vibe to catlady-era GBS. Not for exactly the same reasons, but I felt like if someone even attempted to use the cleanest, most pc joke ever conceived as a comeback, etc. poo poo would hit the fan.

How long ago was this?

I mean, I regg'd it less than 24 hours ago so I don't know if there was something there previously?

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

je1 healthcare posted:

I heard 4chan was an offshoot. Has anyone heard good things about it?

I hear it's a really good family friendly site for everyone to enjoy

Woof Blitzer
Dec 29, 2012

[-]

Cloner of the Elks posted:

How long ago was this?

I mean, I regg'd it less than 24 hours ago so I don't know if there was something there previously?

Hazo
Dec 30, 2004

SCIENCE



Who can we contact for BnR invites or to bypass the paywall? I PMed Queen Combat but she's either offline or swamped with registrations. Shoot me a PM.

a dmc delorean
Jul 2, 2006

Live the dream

sorry my mistake, thought he was posting about something-waffle

Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

Lmao about people interested in BnR AFTER learning its primary user base is cspam furries.

CharlestonJew
Jul 7, 2011

Illegal Hen
https://twitter.com/plutonisisdead/status/1276212867247812609?s=21

aw man this fuckin rules. who will win: the dumbass mods and admins that have run this site into the ground the past few years or the crazy old catladies of BnR? Whoever wins, we lose

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

bob dobbs is dead posted:

breadnroses.net is the one that can prolly defend itself against kiwifarms

lol no

Doomtrain
Sep 12, 2006
A mood train?

Queen Combat posted:

But if you're gay/leftist/furry/horny/comfy/classic/pepsi/tormp/angry, maybe give it a look. No invite code needed or any of that.

E: and also nobody is leasing a loving 2020 nissan or pies or any of that poo poo with the funds. nobody paid, all volunteer including the owners.

Queen Combat being one of the posters probed for gross splatoon fanart during AGDQ who then called FAU a drunken homophobe for closing the chat thread because of it. That forum is going to be an amazing powderkeg.

kas
Sep 9, 2003
I am a snoot.


Laughing a bit at the naivety at cheering and celebrating at BnR getting over 5000 new subscriptions in a couple days, as though sextupling their userbase in a few days isn't going to be an absolute shitshow on every level, especially given how literally ever SA-hating weirdo/doxxer/creepshow offsite has been loving glued here salivating for new targets since this all went down.

EDIT:

Doomtrain posted:

Queen Combat being one of the posters probed for gross splatoon fanart during AGDQ who then called FAU a drunken homophobe for closing the chat thread because of it. That forum is going to be an amazing powderkeg.

Also lol this is super gross all the characters in that game look like children.

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

Doomtrain posted:

Queen Combat being one of the posters probed for gross splatoon fanart during AGDQ who then called FAU a drunken homophobe for closing the chat thread because of it. That forum is going to be an amazing powderkeg.

Holy poo poo no way

That AGDQ broke people's minds, it was hilarious how difficult it was for some people to understand that they shouldn't be creepy and horny about children's video games being speedrun on stream for charity

mikemil828
May 15, 2008

A man who has said too much

Flowers for QAnon posted:

Lmao about people interested in BnR AFTER learning its primary user base is cspam furries.

Well, was cspam furries, from the looks of it the number of users on BnR went from a few hundred to a few thousand overnight, the furries are almost certainly at this point a minority compared to erudite posters such as yourself.

Docahedron
May 11, 2008

Im a special snowflake

kas posted:

Laughing a bit at the naivety at cheering and celebrating at BnR getting over 5000 new subscriptions in a couple days, as though sextupling their userbase in a few days isn't going to be an absolute shitshow on every level, especially given how literally ever SA-hating weirdo/doxxer/creepshow offsite has been loving glued here salivating for new targets since this all went down.

EDIT:


Also lol this is super gross all the characters in that game look like children.

They don't "look like" children. They are children.

Dunno if they post anymore but there used to be someone with a sexualized avatar of a Splatoon kid.

Sophy Wackles
Dec 17, 2000

> access main security grid
access: PERMISSION DENIED.





How about a forum not made and run by communist furry cspammers.

Zongerian
Apr 23, 2020

by Cyrano4747
Bread and roses is succ now tbh and everyone is going to the spinoff Feet and Pipebombs

DeadFatDuckFat
Oct 29, 2012

This avatar brought to you by the 'save our dead gay forums' foundation.


Zongerian posted:

Bread and roses is succ now tbh and everyone is going to the spinoff Feet and Pipebombs

lol why do people spell suck that way now. Its the same number of letters.

Also, today I picced up a ducc in my blacc trucc with the racc but he pooped in the bacc.

Fucc

AHH F/UGH
May 25, 2002

Zongerian posted:

Bread and roses is succ now tbh and everyone is going to the spinoff Feet and Pipebombs

brb gonna register feetandpipebombs.com

UnfurledSails
Sep 1, 2011

Pawn 17 posted:

How about a forum not made and run by communist furry cspammers.

Ruflux
Jun 16, 2012

DeadFatDuckFat posted:

lol why do people spell suck that way now. Its the same number of letters.

Also, today I picced up a ducc in my blacc trucc with the racc but he pooped in the bacc.

Fucc

it's funny if you pronounce it as suh-ccccc

mikemil828
May 15, 2008

A man who has said too much

Pawn 17 posted:

How about a forum not made and run by communist furry cspammers.

The only way to reasonably ensure any forum that you frequent isn't made and run by people you don't like is to make and run it yourself.

https://mybb.com/

Knock yourself out, you have like what? 3-6 months to get it ready before BnR burns down due to drama? Plenty of time to get it ready.

jimmyjams
Jan 10, 2001


King Kong of Megadongs
Gobblin' them mega schlongs
Makin' sure they mega long
Stroke' 'em if they mega strong

DeadFatDuckFat posted:

Also, today I picced up a ducc in my blacc trucc with the racc but he pooped in the bacc.

Fucc

Michaelis
Dec 29, 2019

kas posted:

Laughing a bit at the naivety at cheering and celebrating at BnR getting over 5000 new subscriptions in a couple days, as though sextupling their userbase in a few days isn't going to be an absolute shitshow on every level, especially given how literally ever SA-hating weirdo/doxxer/creepshow offsite has been loving glued here salivating for new targets since this all went down.

Your point about the gross gdq thing is a valid concern, but I'd like to point out how the portion of your post I quoted strikes me as a good example of what I like least about SA - the constant, mindless attempts to tear everyone and everything down. Historically this has been a great source of comedy and satisfying well deserved metaphorical beatdowns, but over the years has given way to a constant droning hostile atmosphere where people are constantly being put down for no justified reason. The numbered of times mods have had to stamp down on threadshitting atests to this. The reason bnr has me feeling optimistic is that I see people there being nice and courteous, reserving criticism for when it's warranted rather than just being something that happens automatically, and reading threads there compared to here makes me feel like there's been an unpleasant heavy smog lifted from my brain for this very reason.

The general forum is not cspammy at all in atmosphere, and neither their cspam is as rabid as ours. They've gotten the greatest share of users of any offsite, so people looking for continuity are likeliest to find it there, and thanks to the Network Effect it's probably too late for any other option. I would hope valued gbs superstars like Sid, Putty and HugeGrossBurrito come along and give it a chance at least

People heavily invested into free for all fyad humor, and the tedious D&D moderates probably aren't going to enjoy it, and neither the people who just liked being constantly aggro, but it seems like it would be a good fit for everyone else. I wasn't expecting yosposters to go there but there they are.

Also if you can't stand sharing a forum with furries and communists I have some bad news about SA...

Delthalaz
Mar 5, 2003






Slippery Tilde
please PM me a personalized invite to the Rhizzone

kas
Sep 9, 2003
I am a snoot.


Michaelis posted:

Your point about the gross gdq thing is a valid concern....

I'm gonna stop you right there and just say that these (gross porn) people are the moderators and administrators there, who also descended here like a pack of ravenous jackals immediately upon everything going sideways here to spam post their dumb forum advertisements all across the boards as their first posts in months, literally advertising it as a welcoming place for weird horny people. Given the weird horny we KNOW some of them are into, well....

Like, I wish I could have more faith in the site but the rot starts right at the literal core, and 20 years of this exact cycle repeating itself over and over gives me zero confidence that this time is the one time it will be different.

AHH F/UGH
May 25, 2002

mikemil828 posted:

The only way to reasonably ensure any forum that you frequent isn't made and run by people you don't like is to make and run it yourself.

https://mybb.com/

Knock yourself out, you have like what? 3-6 months to get it ready before BnR burns down due to drama? Plenty of time to get it ready.

I'm gonna do this

what should we name the new forum

no stupid suggestions

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a dmc delorean
Jul 2, 2006

Live the dream

mikemil828 posted:

The only way to reasonably ensure any forum that you frequent isn't made and run by people you don't like is to make and run it yourself.

https://mybb.com/

Knock yourself out, you have like what? 3-6 months to get it ready before BnR burns down due to drama? Plenty of time to get it ready.

This is what is something-waffle uses

a dmc delorean fucked around with this message at 00:25 on Sep 24, 2020

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