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Renegret posted:The Beignets are one of the many reasons why Port Orleans is the best resort. I'm sorry, I think you misspoke. Sure, visiting Port Orleans is great. But hiding at Fort Wilderness is pretty great. Empress Brosephine posted:carousel of progress and tom sawyer island are absolutely the next things going away imho gently caress tom sawyer island
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Look if they can ruin my childhood Transformers, I don’t see why they can’t ruin your childhood Disney rides.  (I keed I keed lest Braksgirl whaps me upside the head with a Mickey frying pan)
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Neither Tiki Room or Tom Sawyer Island were included in the list of rumored attractions being reviewed. quote:1. Splash Mountain
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Jun 25, 2020 20:40
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Haha Carousal of Progress. I kind of enjoy that the future segment has so many things that actually exist now. Omne posted:LOL disboard never lets me down.... I desperately want the "should it be changed to Disney IP World?" person to elaborate because... everything in Disney World is Disney's IP. It's Disney IP World by design
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Zero One posted:Neither Tiki Room or Tom Sawyer Island were included in the list of rumored attractions being reviewed. Well I'm hoping #3 gets changed in November for obvious reasons.
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Macaluso posted:Haha Carousal of Progress. I kind of enjoy that the future segment has so many things that actually exist now. We're also desperately pretending here that Song of the South wasn't an IP... 
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I will go live in Florida forever, condemning myself to literally impossible summers and no winters ever again, if I can personally torch the American Adventure legally.
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https://twitter.com/joe_rohde/status/1276230540241166336?s=21 Joe Rohde thinks it's going to be great.
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he said the same about navi river journey https://d23.com/exclusive-walt-disney-imagineerings-bob-weis-discusses-reimagining-splash-mountain-for-tiana-and-her-friends/
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Macaluso posted:Haha Carousal of Progress. I kind of enjoy that the future segment has so many things that actually exist now. Lots of older, "classic" attractions pre-date their IP (Pirates, Jungle Cruise) and some don't have any (Big Thunder, Space Mountain, etc.). What's funny about that person is that Splash *was* based (loosely) on IP, just not a very well-known one. When they got rid of Mr. Toad's Wild Ride, one of the reasons was that people no longer associated it with its IP. People just like to bitch. That person is apparently against any re-theming that adds or changes the IP of the original attraction.
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Brer Rabbit is one of the oldest characters in human existence, representing the use of personal ingenuity to escape precarious situations. The only images of this story in american culture are being removed from view.
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What exactly is wrong with Carousel other than being charmingly old-fashioned? Did I forget a scene where the dad refers to some negroes moving into the neighborhood?
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Charlatan Eschaton posted:Brer Rabbit is one of the oldest characters in human existence, representing the use of personal ingenuity to escape precarious situations. You still have Bugs Bunny, dude.
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I am very on board for the re-theme For anybody worried they won’t get to say goodbye - there is no way this happens for a while. You will have time to go and ride the OG. And worst case, go to Japan. They have OG Redd on pirates too so.... you can absorb all the old a Disney stuff you want.
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chitoryu12 posted:What exactly is wrong with Carousel other than being charmingly old-fashioned? Did I forget a scene where the dad refers to some negroes moving into the neighborhood? Yeah I mentioned back when it was brought up that the only thing I can think of is that it’s purely a white middle class happy go lucky look at the 20th century and the 20th century suuuuuuucked for anyone else. If they had each scene be a different family from a different background they wouldn’t even have to show the bad stuff but just show their journey to and through America at that time or something. It could be a lot more cosmopolitan and realistic without being bleak.
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Bottom Liner posted:Yeah I mentioned back when it was brought up that the only thing I can think of is that it’s purely a white middle class happy go lucky look at the 20th century and the 20th century suuuuuuucked for anyone else. If they had each scene be a different family from a different background they wouldn’t even have to show the bad stuff but just show their journey to and through America at that time or something. It could be a lot more cosmopolitan and realistic without being bleak. I mean, the family does kind of devolve from fairly cutting edge to poor typical bleak suburbia sitcom dad. Isn't that punishment enough
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For attractions like CoP, AA and HoP it's more likely that Disney wants to improve them with a more inclusive story of America. They aren't "bad" (except current HoP) but they could be better. For Peter Pan and Small World it's going to be removing the racist dolls while keeping everything else.
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Peter Pan is too legacy to ever remove it completely (I think they should absolutely just start over in that spot with a different movie) but they could really stand to shut down the ride and give it a full redo. Everything about that ride is SO dated now. At the very least give the ride proper animatronics. You see Ursula over there?? You aint got poo poo on that Ursula, Captain Hook
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Zero One posted:https://twitter.com/joe_rohde/status/1276230540241166336?s=21 Ah yes, the great city of Anaheim, Florida. (I know what they meant but just say Orlando, wtf)
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The comma is serving as a separator for the Anaheim and Florida locations. Common use of a comma in headlines.
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Bottom Liner posted:The comma is serving as a separator for the Anaheim and Florida locations. Common use of a comma in headlines. It reads awkwardly because they used city in one and state in the other and it’s not like there are multiple parks in California to confuse readers. It’s bad style.
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Hazo posted:Ah yes, the great city of Anaheim, Florida. Orange County.
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Macaluso posted:Peter Pan is too legacy to ever remove it completely (I think they should absolutely just start over in that spot with a different movie) but they could really stand to shut down the ride and give it a full redo. Everything about that ride is SO dated now. At the very least give the ride proper animatronics. You see Ursula over there?? You aint got poo poo on that Ursula, Captain Hook Can we please make the Darling bedroom larger so people can just walk around me while I grab shadow butterflies forever, while we're doing this?
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Circutron posted:We're also desperately pretending here that Song of the South wasn't an IP... It was the first toon IP to escape the confines of Fantasyland. Which has become more of a problem in the 21st century. During Splash's final months of construction and first weeks of operation, I spent more time at the parks than I did any time in my life. Disneyland had actual periods where the crowds were dead, characters didn't have lines form to meet them but instead entertained small crowds and picked kids out of a mob, many rides had little to no waiting. Splash was the new big thing so I feel like I kinda understand how boomers feel watching it fade into history. The new ride sounds fine, but I hope they don't use this as an excuse to rip 50+ animatronics out. Also hoping the "Splash Mountain" name sticks, it's a classic title that has gently caress-all to do with Song of the South specifically. And finally I'd put my money on Peter Pan's Flight being next. The ethnic stereotypes in that make up very little of the ride and aren't as memorable as flying over the city or Captain Hook. Craptacular! fucked around with this message at 09:27 on Jun 26, 2020 |
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Silly Burrito posted:Well I'm hoping #3 gets changed in November for obvious reasons. The rumor is that they’ll give up on it entirely rather than put Robotrump in the crowd o’ presidents.
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So it's basically impossible to get thru to disney at the moment to cancel our APs, that's awesome. I tried all day yesterday and got sorry circuit is busy at the moment message all day long.
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mattfl posted:So it's basically impossible to get thru to disney at the moment to cancel our APs, that's awesome. I tried all day yesterday and got sorry circuit is busy at the moment message all day long. Wasn't there something coming in July that was supposed to offer a better refund or something? Or is it rolling now? I'm interested in cancelling mine. Edit: Well the park pass reservation system seems less on fire today from what I can see. Got as far as hitting confirm on Hollywood studios for July 22nd. Didn't click through confirm for the final part of it but it seems better than what they had a few days ago. J33uk fucked around with this message at 12:33 on Jun 26, 2020 |
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Craptacular! posted:Also hoping the "Splash Mountain" name sticks, it's a classic title that has gently caress-all to do with Song of the South specifically. I'm only going by pictures I've seen of New Orleans since I've never been there, but I don't think there are mountains there
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Craptacular! posted:
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Bottom Liner posted:If they had each scene be a different family from a different background they wouldn’t even have to show the bad stuff but just show their journey to and through America at that time or something. It could be a lot more cosmopolitan and realistic without being bleak. The problem is that nodding toward the multi-cultural history of America without addressing how insanely lovely things were for people deemed not white is arguably as much a problem as just "this one family we're going to follow is white." Like, Ragtime (the musical) starts at the turn of the century with the main character talking about how great America is because now he gets to own a car, then some firemen destroy it, then his wife gets shot by police, then he gets shot by police. The show also ends with a variation on there's a great big beautiful tomorrow, but it sort of earns it. The park's naive optimism is wonderful but also hard to imagine meshing with reality in any meaningful way. EDIT: Yeah, I'd bet money the scene with the natives is going to get exorcised from Jungle Cruise, and good riddance. There'll probably be Dwayne Johnson and Emily Blunt animatronics put in, which isn't great, but its still probably a net improvement. There's a compelling argument that Trader Sam should be reworked, and a version of the character that's, like, comic relief trader rather than "shrunken head witch doctor" is probably the best outcome from the movie. Boxman fucked around with this message at 13:27 on Jun 26, 2020 |
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Macaluso posted:I'm only going by pictures I've seen of New Orleans since I've never been there, but I don't think there are mountains there No mountains in space either.
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Had zero trouble getting reservations today, just to see what it was like. Not sure I'll keep the reservations, but the issues from the 22nd seem gone. Next experiment: seeing if it'll be possible to get a random, 2PM reservation to get in to Epcot
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Boxman posted:The problem is that nodding toward the multi-cultural history of America without addressing how insanely lovely things were for people deemed not white is arguably as much a problem as just "this one family we're going to follow is white." The main goal of the parks (especially MK) is to entertain, not educate. Certain elements of rides fail to entertain due to racist or otherwise problematic caricatures, and so they either have been dealt with (redhead in Pirates) or will/should be (Peter Pan, small world, etc.). Carousel is meant to talk about technological progress, and I think they can update it to be more inclusive and keep to its theme. American Adventure is a more appropriate setting to talk about how lovely things were for people; doing so in Carousel doesn't make sense. John: "Give's you something to do after you get home. I kind of like it, you know? A guy named John Cameron Swayze gives us all the news and then they have all this singing and dancing. A lot of fluff, but it's fun. I even heard of a woman in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on a bus to a white woman, can you believe that? Just goes to show you that There's A Great Big Beautiful Tomorrrroooooooow"
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Omne posted:I even heard of a woman in Alabama who refused to give up her seat on a bus to a white woman, can you believe that? Just goes to show you that There's A Great Big Beautiful Tomorrrroooooooow" This is a good take, but now I want this line in there
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I'd prefer they leave Jungle Cruise alone forever, and just strip the narrative out of Splash Mountain and keep the songs. And the vultures.q
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My problem with Magic Kingdom is that it always felt like a time machine to me. I feel like the vast majority of the park needs a serious modernization but there's a lot of "classics" that are untouchable. Like, the country bear jamboree is loving boring as hell, but I will watch it every time I go because it's a classic, and I enjoy the animatroinics and being impressed with what they were able to pull of with the technology of the time. But it totally feels like I stepped into the past to a time way before I was born. I love Jungle Cruise but the way the natives are portrayed makes me feel real dirty. I always have to let go and just remind myself, it was something that was generally accepted at the time when the park was built. I find it funny that the time machine thing is ultimately what's biting them in the rear end. I'm hoping a little bit of editing can help make the park feel a lot more modern too. I'm also super pumped for the new Tron coaster, Magic Kingdom needs it. Renegret fucked around with this message at 15:00 on Jun 26, 2020 |
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