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CancerCakes
Jan 10, 2006

gently caress you I haven't mentioned my PhD once in over ten years of posting here

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Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

forkboy84 posted:

Considering the amount of effort it takes to get one can you really blame them?

Not least chucking in highly paid job to go on a research grant to do a PhD completely unrelated to your job when you're pushing 40! (Which, as mentioned in earlier editions of this thread) is no career enhancement whatsoever and in fact has the effect of destroying 16+ years of work experience, much at senior level, in the eyes of employers! (Who fondly imagine, say, that a PhD in maths - mine wasn't - means learning your 356 x table). (One former employer of mine in a hospital Estates Dept was slagging off the Medical Physicists because they 'only had MScs, nothing to brag about, wasn't even a BSc.' Upon close questioning said boss believed that a BSc was the highest possible academic qualification. (Needless to say he hadn't got one and had earned his role by working his way up). Oh and he was also responsible for recruiting professionally qualified surveying, engineering staff many of whom had bust a gut getting MSc in their own time and on their own dime, and failing miserably to impress on their CVs because 'it isn't a BSc is it'.

Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 16:31 on Jun 26, 2020

Ratjaculation
Aug 3, 2007

:parrot::parrot::parrot:



does it count if you did half a masters?

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Guavanaut posted:

iirc he admitted in a police interview that he did what he was accused of doing, but didn't believe it met the standard for rape and also Sweden were going to hand him over to Navy SEALs or some such poo poo.

So I believe what happened, I just think he's made poo poo a lot harder for himself than if he'd just gone to Sweden. He spent more years in worse conditions than a Swedish prison cell and now the US gets him as their person to throw poo poo rear end charges at anyway.

I think Occums Razor has to be considered. Which is more likely.
That a weirdo, unlikable guy took advantage of women who considered themselves his fans and that it crossed into the line of non-consensual sex. And that he considered he did nothing wrong so refused to co-operate with any investigation.

Or that the US Government, so slighted by what he did scoured his past, eventual found two women who would admit to having sex with him, bribed them to invent false allegations of sex in a third country in the hopes that this third country will agree to extradition after he has been tried for crimes?


Like why use Sweden, a country not known for being super friendly with the US Justice System? Why go with an offence that he could easily be acquitted under? Like if they are going to invent charges why not go with something set in the US and something like Child Pornography that is almost always a guaranteed conviction?

It just smacks of the standard conspiracy theory problem where the all powerful adversary can do whatever (Invent spurious charges) they want but also have to abide by weird rules to give them a fair chance (chose to bring in a third country.)

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

forkboy84 posted:

Considering the amount of effort it takes to get one can you really blame them?

YES.

CancerCakes
Jan 10, 2006

Depends, are you half a sub?

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Ratjaculation posted:

does it count if you did half a masters?

Yes for sure you still learned something (even if you've forgotten it by now).
Used to have this discussion with friends "oh I'd love to do A-level Spanish (or whatever) but it's 2 years part-time and I might move" and I'm like "but you would still have learned some Spanish". 2 years later I'm clutching a part-time MSc and they're still going 'blah blah but I might move'. Could have had it by then.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro



If ever even bother to do a Bachelors I will talk about it incessantly

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
Jonty Bravery jailed for 15 years for attempted murder at Tate Modern

that really hosed up story about the teenager throwing a small child off the tate modern gallery has ended with him going to prison instead of staying in Broadmoor, which given he's apparently severely autistic, and the psychiatrists were saying he should stay in hospital seems a bit odd?

I'm wondering if it's because he planned the attack so there's no diminished responsibility or whatever?

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Julio Cruz posted:

open the window and let one of the cats have a look out, those pigeons will gently caress right off in a hurry

hahaha i have been thinking about that. Sadly they're on a pipe above a ledge and even that ledge would be tricky to reach from the window

CancerCakes posted:

Depends, are you half a sub?

subs don't "do" masters :colbert:

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
latest on the Glasgow incident is six injuries and the guy shot dead by police

https://twitter.com/policescotland/status/1276522258874368001?s=20

wonder how this one is going to work out

from the sounds of it, it was in a hotel that was being used as temporary accommodation so possibly a mental health thing rather than a planned terrorist attack?

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

XMNN posted:

possibly a mental health thing rather than a planned terrorist attack?

so you mean the guy was white?

Breath Ray
Nov 19, 2010
saludos cordiales, all

ronya posted:

hot take time

the secret to Costa Rica's relative success is threefold:

#1 - having lots of undeveloped land even by the mid-20th century. The peasant land reform question that grips much of Latin America never arises because the country simply deforests much of itself to create more arable land, and only sets out to reverse it after it becomes wealthier. The swing is staggering:


it is this - more than anything else - that explains why Costa Rica does not become Guatemala. It's much easier to call for a moderate center-left pragmatic approach when it's inexpensive to avoid rural starvation

#2 - not succumbing to the temptation to pick sides during the Cold War; throughout it remains carefully aligned with the dominant US (largely rejecting Soviet aid), but not to the point of engaging in struggle with Soviet-aligned neighbour Nicaragua either. This pragmatism is seen in e.g. hosting the Sandinistas in Costa Rica before they took power and then hosting the Contras after as well. This relative detachment itself is due to #1 allowing a for a relatively low-stakes politics

#3 - neoliberalising rapidly as the Great Commodities Depression of the 1980s bit, following the free trade zone model, rather than fruitlessly (heh) seeking to defend the viability of bananas and coffee and beef. This is itself due to a relatively successful rural wealth buffer bought by #1

Due to the role of factor #1 it's not really generalizable either, but maybe some lessons can be taken...

...

I mean, the other side of the center-left moderate scissors is that Costa Rica is also standout in how much it doesn't confront the large landowners in its land reform programme, especially relative to the rest of Latin America. Costa Rican land reform bought out concentrated landowners at market rate since the 1960s - no revolution, not even any "we'll pay but at a discounted rate only", not even coercion (sales were voluntary).

(again - because it could pay for it by converting half the entire country's landmass to farms and then export vast quantities of fruit, coffee, beef, etc. to much richer+industrialised neighbours, and thus have the revenue to engage in the least confrontational way to dismantle concentrating land ownership. If it had already all been farms and plantations, then this option would not have been possible)

...

some of its post-liberalisation Free Trade Zone Regime niches are medical devices and online gambling, so.... uh, kinda? Unironically?

ronya, youre a prince. where else do you post online? how do you know about costa rica's FTZ niches?

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

A young male relative of mine was in a relationship with a Costa Rican woman (in Costa Rica - he was there). I'm not sure it's great for women from what he described - seems rather 'middle eastern' in outlook particularly with regard to the role of Mothers (and prospective Mothers in Law).

interesting! so traditional gender roles are the order of the day. the reason im asking at all is because my gf loves the place. shes visited the last couple of winters and we plan to take career breaks from november to explore a bit more. shes from the caucasus herself so not drinking and modest clothes wont present too much of a culture shock

yaffle posted:

Costa Rica is interesting, It has a huge number of American expats who have driven prices up all over, and many of them are horrible. It has a massive crime problem. In the five years that I lived there I personally knew three people who had home invasions in which they were tied up at gunpoint while a gang emptied the whole house. On the other hand when I first went exploring San Jose with my two year old daughter in a backpack a very nice toothless crackhead escorted us out of Barrio Mexico whilst explaining that it wasn't quite the place.
A lot of the Central Valley is pretty wealthy, or at least not poor, but when you get off the beaten track there is really grim poverty.
Also they have a brand of Whisky called Black Cock. it has a Ptarmigan on the bottle

id like to hear more about your experience there. presume you were with a multinational based in san jose? a home invasion of my place would only yield a refurbed macbook air and some art supplies, so not too put off...yet!

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

The Question IRL posted:

I think Occums Razor has to be considered. Which is more likely.
That a weirdo, unlikable guy took advantage of women who considered themselves his fans and that it crossed into the line of non-consensual sex. And that he considered he did nothing wrong so refused to co-operate with any investigation.

Or that the US Government, so slighted by what he did scoured his past, eventual found two women who would admit to having sex with him, bribed them to invent false allegations of sex in a third country in the hopes that this third country will agree to extradition after he has been tried for crimes?


Like why use Sweden, a country not known for being super friendly with the US Justice System? Why go with an offence that he could easily be acquitted under? Like if they are going to invent charges why not go with something set in the US and something like Child Pornography that is almost always a guaranteed conviction?

It just smacks of the standard conspiracy theory problem where the all powerful adversary can do whatever (Invent spurious charges) they want but also have to abide by weird rules to give them a fair chance (chose to bring in a third country.)
I don't think there was any conspiracy to fabricate the actual charges, assuming that I remembered right and he did admit everything he was accused of in a UK police interview, but I do think at some point he must have believed that there was a conspiracy against him.

A guy who wants you to believe there's a conspiracy but doesn't themselves believe it wouldn't hole up in a cell for so long that their health goes to poo poo, far longer than they'd serve for the actual crime, they'd just behave obnoxiously throughout the trial and you might get some entertaining documents from it. He's a rapist or at best a sex offender, he should have gone to Sweden, and why he didn't I can only assume is because he managed to wrangle himself into believing his own unlikely conspiracy, and it's gone terribly for him because now the one thing he didn't want to happen is actually happening.

That's a bit of a windows into men's souls question, but Occam's razor on "I am extremely smart staying out of prison by imprisoning myself for years" vs. "I genuinely believe in the very unlikely conspiracy theory that the US are going to intercept me as part of the Sweden thing" points towards his own mental state believing the latter at some point.

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.

Breath Ray posted:

ronya, youre a prince. where else do you post online? how do you know about costa rica's FTZ niches?

I didn't, actually, but the whole rationale of FTZs is tactically filling gaps in international supply chains and hoping to grab whatever cluster they can, so any country with a decent number of them is gonna have some remarkable niches. It won't be a traditional prestige industry because the bigger countries won't let those go.

for Costa Rica, a quick lookup shows it's Precision and Medical Equipment. It exports more medical devices than it does agricultural produce.



A quick lookup later...

thespaceinvader
Mar 30, 2011

The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

Ratjaculation posted:

does it count if you did half a masters?

It probably counts as a postgraduate diploma.

Source: my postgraduate diploma.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

ronya posted:

[url="https://oec.world/en/profile/country/cri"]
Didn't have CR down as a semiconductor hub.

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

David Baddiel is such a twat:

https://twitter.com/Baddiel/status/1276510666770321408?s=20

And surprise surprise, I found instances where Corbyn had spoken out about every single one of these, in about 5 minutes total of googling.

https://twitter.com/WhatEvil/status/1276541412809625601?s=20

(Thread)

And I know that I could find loads more from him and from other SCG MPs (particularly lots of them have been sponsors/signees of Early Day Motions and such.

Baddiel also basically said "Oh and they never speak up about this either - here is a list of countries where it's illegal to be gay!" and surprise surprise, Corbyn had specific policies on this about pressuring the UN to monitor and enforce rules on this etc. when it reviews human rights and such.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

countries where M Khan is even less welcome

ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.

Guavanaut posted:

Didn't have CR down as a semiconductor hub.

Apparently Intel had a plant there until recently, which reopened this year. Not the wafer fabrication itself, but assembly and testing.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Breath Ray posted:


interesting! so traditional gender roles are the order of the day. the reason im asking at all is because my gf loves the place. shes visited the last couple of winters and we plan to take career breaks from november to explore a bit more. shes from the caucasus herself so not drinking and modest clothes wont present too much of a culture shock


She's probably ok if she's a foreigner and if her mother isn't there too :D

I don't think modesty of clothes is the issue (certainly relative's gf did not dress in a 'modest' fashion), more the 'chastity' and heavy maternal influences aspects. If you're living on your own you'll probably be fine, but if you're lodging with families don't expect necessarily to be able to share a room. I guess you could put wedding rings on and hope noone asks to see the paperwork!

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

thespaceinvader posted:

It probably counts as a postgraduate diploma.

Source: my postgraduate diploma.

Yes, basically a postgraduate diploma is a MSc without the project/thesis bit.
On the other hand I did a PGDip in Operational Research back in the year dot and it was MSc standard (including a major project - piece of original work) but they had not had whatever the relevant approval was way back then to call it a MSc. (Why yes, Jae does have more letters than the alphabet on her business card if she had one). (ed: and not one of them has earned me a pay rise! In terms of potential earnings, the thing that earned me the most money was paying a woman in Finchley Ł100 to sit in her back room with an electric typewriter and learn to touch type in 1984!)

Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Jun 26, 2020

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
https://twitter.com/samisam147/status/1276433544940748801?s=20

the O'Neill article is predictably awful*, but I lolled at the picture

*I initially wasn't even going to skim it but I thought that was p lazy and maybe it wasn't exactly what you're thinking it is, but it is exactly what you're thinking it is

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


WhatEvil posted:

David Baddiel is such a twat:

https://twitter.com/Baddiel/status/1276510666770321408?s=20

And surprise surprise, I found instances where Corbyn had spoken out about every single one of these, in about 5 minutes total of googling.

https://twitter.com/WhatEvil/status/1276541412809625601?s=20

(Thread)

And I know that I could find loads more from him and from other SCG MPs (particularly lots of them have been sponsors/signees of Early Day Motions and such.

Baddiel also basically said "Oh and they never speak up about this either - here is a list of countries where it's illegal to be gay!" and surprise surprise, Corbyn had specific policies on this about pressuring the UN to monitor and enforce rules on this etc. when it reviews human rights and such.

So, what when they're dealing with one issue they actually have to deal with every issue all the time? That would be exhausting.

Aphex-
Jan 29, 2006

Dinosaur Gum

"Stupid loving Israel"? Wow Baddiel is incredibly anti-Semitic.

The Question IRL
Jun 8, 2013

Only two contestants left! Here is Doom's chance for revenge...

Guavanaut posted:


That's a bit of a windows into men's souls question, but Occam's razor on "I am extremely smart staying out of prison by imprisoning myself for years" vs. "I genuinely believe in the very unlikely conspiracy theory that the US are going to intercept me as part of the Sweden thing" points towards his own mental state believing the latter at some point.

Jon Ronson has this really good book he put out called the Psychopath Test. There is a bit about this guy who had multiple families which is truly unbelievable.

But at one stage the guy has to come up with a story to tell family A, B and C to explain why he is with family D.
And it is that he is going on a mission into a Middle Eastern country, and he gets stuck there and trapped in a collapsed building.
But to back up his story, his foot is supposed to be mangled.
So to back this up, while living with family D, he wears Hillwalking boots that are too sizes too small to mess up his feet.

The amazing part about this is that psychopaths can horribly injury themselves to further a story, because the pain they experience is their future selves problem. And as far as the psycho is concerned, that is someone else's problem.
I think that offers an insight into his behaviour.

I recommend that book, the Psychopath Test. (Also it's relevant to this thread as the main thesis is about how most Corporate CEO's are Psychopaths. And how the distinction between Psychopath and Sociopath has been rendered meaningless. )

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


I suspect Assange is just a man who is simply incapable of accepting they were wrong about anything. Facing the music in Sweden would have been an admission of fault, even if he vocally declared his innocence, so the preferable choice was to actually perpetrate a worse punishment on himself. That he could claim persecution by the US government (you know, the one he helped elect) just reinforced it harder.

Umbra Dubium
Nov 23, 2007

The British Empire was built on cups of tea, and if you think I'm going into battle without one, you're sorely mistaken!



WhatEvil posted:

David Baddiel is such a twat:

"Excuse me, I think you'll find that ALL oppressive regimes matter."

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


Guavanaut posted:

iirc he admitted in a police interview that he did what he was accused of doing, but didn't believe it met the standard for rape and also Sweden were going to hand him over to Navy SEALs or some such poo poo.

So I believe what happened, I just think he's made poo poo a lot harder for himself than if he'd just gone to Sweden. He spent more years in worse conditions than a Swedish prison cell and now the US gets him as their person to throw poo poo rear end charges at anyway.

I didn't know he actually admitted it, I suppose that settles that. Although it does make his behaviour quite odd and potentially mentally ill.

Either way the prosecution from the US by any and all means is hardly something that's justified in the slightest, given that it's for publishing classified information while not being a US citizen or being on US soil.

It's not even just this administration, his sealed charges were started under Obama instead IIRC. As were the comments at the time made by the Obama department of state. Which would hardly engender much love against Clinton, particularly to the point where his site wouldn't publish information leaked to him by -presumably Russian- hackers.

e: And Hillary Clinton loving sucks in a major way, anyway. Remember her last intervention in local politics:

Hillary Clinton: Europe must curb immigration to stop rightwing populists

Graun posted:

Europe must get a handle on immigration to combat a growing threat from rightwing populists, Hillary Clinton has said, calling on the continent’s leaders to send out a stronger signal showing they are “not going to be able to continue to provide refuge and support”.

In an interview with the Guardian, the former Democratic presidential candidate praised the generosity shown by the German chancellor, Angela Merkel, but suggested immigration was inflaming voters and contributed to the election of Donald Trump and Britain’s vote to leave the EU.

“I think Europe needs to get a handle on migration because that is what lit the flame,” Clinton said, speaking as part of a series of interviews with senior centrist political figures about the rise of populists, particularly on the right, in Europe and the Americas.

“I admire the very generous and compassionate approaches that were taken particularly by leaders like Angela Merkel, but I think it is fair to say Europe has done its part, and must send a very clear message – ‘we are not going to be able to continue provide refuge and support’ – because if we don’t deal with the migration issue it will continue to roil the body politic.”

Private Speech fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Jun 26, 2020

Marmaduke!
May 19, 2009

Why would it do that!?
I appreciate all the centrist tory-proppers screaming "why do the left keep going on about Israel?!" in the immediate aftermath of them blowing up about a retweet of an article which had one very tangential reference to Israeli police tactics...

NoneMoreNegative
Jul 20, 2000
GOTH FASCISTIC
PAIN
MASTER




shit wizard dad

I thought the thing with Assange was that he admitted the deed but disagreed on the wrongness, but any attempt for him to get on a plane to face the music as soon as they were airborne the blond Scandinavian wigs would be pulled off and it was a US black bag team all along!

To be absolutely fair there's paranoid and then there's hmm ok maybe

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
british "centrists" are so loving bitter and spiteful its unreal

https://twitter.com/DAaronovitch/status/1276192176410673152?s=20

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
I had to abstain for like 10 days as part of a fertility treatment and this morning i wanked so hard at the clinic i did my neck in

My neck's been hosed all day



Just thought I'd share that with the thread

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!






ronya posted:

the wealth is comparatively easy to redistribute as very little of it is made in Kerala, but instead in dramatically richer countries

(which themselves are rich due to oil)

the fact that the oil is not in Kerala itself discourages a Niger delta resource curse, where oil fuels ethnic conflict instead of relative prosperity (compared to other countries at a similar level of development). But there is still social disruption of sending a huge swathe of the country overseas to work for remittances. Fundamentally it's 1) not very leftie to embrace selling labour on a national scale as a model 2) not very leftie given the conditions Kerala implicitly tolerates for that labour force 3) not perhaps scalable

Serious question: is the Phillipine remittance economy inconsistent with leftism?

ronya posted:

Dani Rodrik has an influential form of the argument pitched as a trilemma since the late 1990s, where the world-system must pick two out of three: deep global economic integration (common markets, capital flows, etc), politics at the level of nation-states, or politics being effectively democratically responsive to civil-social dissatisfaction. The intuition is similar to what is laid out in the article. Rodrik is, naturally, a fan of proposing limitations on #1 in order to keep #2 and #3.

There's also a Thomas Friedman version but I refuse to accord it dignity.

The problem with pitching #1 however is that voters turned out not to be all too enthusiastic for it either (the year is not 2001 and economists are not mainly preoccupied in stunned musing about the Battle in Seattle and the troubled Doha talks). This is what SYRIZA went on to discover, eventually: its electoral tent turns out to also prioritize internationalism in the sense of retaining membership in the Eurozone. It turns out that there are actually remarkably few fans for the return of Bretton Woods and tight exchange controls. So voters refuse to endorse any particular outcomes, their representatives duly also also refuse to endorse any particular outcomes, and politics gets to be unusually exciting for a while. Any resemblance to the House of Commons on recent economic-integration questions is coincidental, I'm sure. This is where the 'everyone: actually neoliberals in self-denial' card comes into play. Accusations of intellectual dishonesty are unfair I think - voters are allowed to contain self-contradictory multitudes, they do that all the time.

There aren't any quick answers there I think, it's kind of a common way to frame the problem but not present any intuitive solutions. I haven't seen any, anyway. Some ideas I have seen tossed around:

- maybe it's all China shock? The rise of China was massive, much more than the earlier rise of the East Asian tiger states or Newly Industrialized Countries merely due to size alone. People complained when the factories moved to Taiwan, then they complained some more when the factories moved to Indonesia, and then they complained again when they moved to China, but the China decade was so much bigger than all the others put together. But it'll only industrialize once... waiting in the wings is Vietnam, but Vietnam is much smaller. So potentially it's just the one-off wave? India seems more headed to a middle income trap.

- maybe Europe can transition to fiscal union? Maybe independent fiscal authority will suffice to satisfy the German suspicion of Southern European governance?

- maybe the SYRIZA/Podemos/Corbyn/Sanders wave will transform everything and forge a consensus for something, rather than nothing? This seems to have petered out as of late. Nobody thinks the right-populist or yellow-jacket-populist tendencies have an actual idea that can win pluralities either. Macronism subsists on such a vacuum.

- maybe stagnation and low growth is the real problem, and it'll all just go away with the next boom, whatever it is?

- maybe polarization is the real problem? The preceding discussion assumes throughout that nation-state politics holds, so that a 55% victory is a clear mandate and a 60% victory is a landslide unstoppable march of history making itself felt. Even if four in ten people voted for not-that. But if actually what is happening is disintegration to even smaller political tribes, then...

idk. I am really writing all of this off the top of my head, I have not looked into this topic for months

e: one notable aspect of the whole argument - since the 1990s the apocalyptic scenario of a race to the bottom has dropped out of the debate entirely, to be replaced with concerns over immigration. It is just too obvious that China is actually getting much richer being the world's smokestack; it is clearly not a hapless victim of exploitation. Maybe the supposed economic dimension is just a proxy for a revival of the old angst over multikulti, now that Europe begins to have a visible minority level above 2% and the US for its part sheds a white majority. Social spending in the developed world has after all not actually fallen appreciably... stir in an aging society to mix. For all the supposed disenchantment with the GATT/WTO order, after all, the great populist wave doesn't seem to be demanding to have regional economic pacts or self-sufficiency. They're demanding that cultural anxieties be met.

I know it’s 8 pages back but come on Ronya, “this stuff” is everything. Where else is your attention focused, if not on the actually important question of what happens next?

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

I had to abstain for like 10 days as part of a fertility treatment and this morning i wanked so hard at the clinic i did my neck in

My neck's been hosed all day



Just thought I'd share that with the thread

This is the sort of heroism we need.

sinky
Feb 22, 2011



Slippery Tilde

NoneMoreNegative posted:

I thought the thing with Assange was that he admitted the deed but disagreed on the wrongness, but any attempt for him to get on a plane to face the music as soon as they were airborne the blond Scandinavian wigs would be pulled off and it was a US black bag team all along!

To be absolutely fair there's paranoid and then there's hmm ok maybe

The USA literally tried that though? By redirecting a plane carrying the president of Bolivia.

quote:

The day after his TV interview, Morales's Dassault Falcon 900, carrying him back to Bolivia from Russia, took off from Vnukovo Airport, but was rerouted to Austria when France, Spain, and Italy[2] reportedly denied access to their airspace, allegedly due to suspicions that Snowden was on board

On 3 July, Jen Psaki, spokesperson for the U.S. Department of State, acknowledged that the U.S. had been "in contact with a range of countries across the world who had any chance of having Mr. Snowden land or even transit through their countries".[13][14]
x

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them
https://twitter.com/demarionunn/status/1276458734189858816

sinky
Feb 22, 2011



Slippery Tilde

Jose posted:

british "centrists" are so loving bitter and spiteful its unreal


https://twitter.com/miriksmit/status/1276522553914404864?s=20

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

NoneMoreNegative posted:

I thought the thing with Assange was that he admitted the deed but disagreed on the wrongness, but any attempt for him to get on a plane to face the music as soon as they were airborne the blond Scandinavian wigs would be pulled off and it was a US black bag team all along!

To be absolutely fair there's paranoid and then there's hmm ok maybe
On the balance of chances he's hosed himself worse by staying in tory Britain though. He could have arranged his own flight with a trusted solicitor and journalist and the eyes of the world on it, or even tried to get the embassy he obviously trusted to arrange a flight. It may have had a tragic 'engine failure' but that's more France's thing than America's.

Then he could have got legal representation in Sweden, faced the court, probably got 2-3 years and out in half that depending on what mood the judge was in and the severity of what he was found to have done (there wasn't any violence or threats in what he stated in the interview) and then he'd be reasonably free of US extradition and able to continue his work and hopefully not continue his sex assaults.

As is he's hosed, for the good things he did not the bad things.

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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

To be fair they are nowhere near as spiteful as I am.

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