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since the "remove Reene" thread got derailed and closed, go to this thread demanding Burt's removal and just emptyquote the first reply (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Giga Gaia posted:i saw your edit big flaming stink sorry, we've been consumed by the drama vortex wholesale!
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Jun 26, 2020 22:28
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:i do not want to post with anyone interested in excusing and lying about abuse to win some loving forums cred BMD I am an abuse survivor. The evidence so far for Reene has been 1. She is an abuse survivor and 2. Her accusers are acting in bad faith. You can understand why people are not feeling great on #2 given this sites history, yes? But I'm also very uncomfortable with #1. Abuse victims don't develop magical abuser detection skills, we tend to just learn the patterns and language used. And if an abuser manages to use different language and obfuscate the pattern, we'll, we can still fall in. And, in more generational trauma terms, we have a scarily common tendency to either become abusers ourselves or at the least take up some of their methods unintentionally. I have, and I try to be real careful about it.
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Jun 26, 2020 22:29
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Prester Jane posted:This needs clarified, because this wasn't an active "conspiracy" for the most part, Reene and Burt's role was simply to look the other way and press the buttons without thinking. They were as involved/active as Nassar's enablers: all they actually did was look the other way whenever they needed to and not to think too deeply about it. 
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Jun 26, 2020 22:30
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:Oh yeah also BrutalistMcDonalds you're being borderline abusive to PJ but definitely a loving rear end in a top hat so go do some more walkies please
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A big flaming stink posted:sorry, we've been consumed by the drama vortex wholesale! ill never empty my posting crystal at this rate 
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Jun 26, 2020 22:31
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As someone dumbshit enough to do modding on a different forum for free in the past I can tell you when you talk to other mods you just shrug and expect them to have done their job, otherwise you end up doing the job of 2 mods. So Jeff heard ppj say he was nazi infiltrating and shrugged and when poo poo came out he got flustered he didn't listen and that's all.
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Jun 26, 2020 22:31
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A big flaming stink posted:please forgive me if i am somewhat suspicious of blue stars these days, especially wrt their opinions about fellow mods/admins Well you should be, thats the curse of the mods.and that they always knew. On the other hand BM,lk and twoday are also c-spammers dealing with a lot of poo poo, and probably on the dark in a lot of this . Saying "i dont know the dude, everytime i dealt with him hes been ok" is not some glowing review of jeffreys admininship. We know the gently caress ups he did, and the fallout of them, and good stuff hes being doing also,so lets use his accions as a way to judge jeffrey, instead of projecting our opinions into people that barelly have a passive acquaintance with him. Edit: gently caress that some horrible spellcheck
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Jun 26, 2020 22:33
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Antifa Poltergeist posted:Well you should be, thats the curse of the mods.and that they always knew. i honestly do not have that strong of an opinion on jeffery reene, on the other hand, is kinda completely trash as an admin and the reflexive defensiveness on her behalf seems entirely unearned!
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Jun 26, 2020 22:36
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:i do not want to post with anyone interested in excusing and lying about abuse to win some loving forums cred BELIEVE THE MODS CITIZEN Trust the person who swept abuse under the rug, trust ~us~
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Jun 26, 2020 22:36
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Her personal life is completely immaterial to the complaints against her in her current position as admin
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Jun 26, 2020 22:40
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A big flaming stink posted:i honestly do not have that strong of an opinion on jeffery Yeah that ones tricky. reene is just not a good admin/mod, but shes aparently been through some poo poo too and that earns sympathy but i dont think thats whats best for her right now.lets help her out with that and i think that for her own wellbeing she shouldnt be a admin/mod. Edit: oh wait thats not tricky at all after all.
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Jun 26, 2020 22:41
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Cspam mods are the best mods but they are still mods and are at the very least more likely to favorably view the people who are also mods and admins by dint of frequent communication. Also not a fan of BmDs most recent posts itt but they seem to be taking a breather and generally good.
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Jun 26, 2020 22:42
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If the mods and admins were serious about making things better here, they would be sharing plans for a complete changing of the guard, and not simping in these threads on one another's behalf. Why would anyone trust the people involved in the PPJ saga, who shut people up during the ladyambien stuff, who never seem to learn or grow or change. Its possible to become a better person if you can shake the cringing servility you are currently engaged in. It shouldn't require THREE battered women.
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Asema posted:wait a second my motivations here once the stuff about lowtax came out the mods had a discussion about this, and pretty much decided to strike, which is why there was more goatse and such around the past few days. It was known that jeffrey was in negotiations, and pretty much it was collectively decided that if those fell through and lowtax remained in power, that we would all quit. I stayed because I thought it would be known within 24-48 hours whether the negotiation worked out or not, at which point there would be a mass demodding, and I figured I would leave then, and create less work for people if we were all just demodded at once. In the mean time I  ed and ignored my buttons
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Here To Help posted:If the mods and admins were serious about making things better here, they would be sharing plans for a complete changing of the guard, and not simping in these threads on one another's behalf. I still wonder how many of them believed lowtax vs. how many of them preferred not to "rock the boat" It's one thing if they sincerely trusted what they thought was a friend it's much worse if they refused to do/allow due diligence because they liked their stature
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Jun 26, 2020 22:46
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Imma gonna be honest here,the circunstances that lead to this are very lovely, but the wildness and unlawfullness of the forums in the last days are kinda fun. My proposal is that we should have a purge week every year in these here forums, starting on 4/20. The catch is that cspam during that week turns bizarro land and every post must contain a well source and passionate defense of centrist liberals policies.
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Jun 26, 2020 22:50
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:she's not amazing how quick modbrain turns into copbrain
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as far as I am aware, Lady Ambien has contacted the admins and requested, for understandable reasons of privacy, that as little about personal info about her be posted on the forums as possible, and the motivation for removing the police reports was an attempt to fulfill that request. Likewise, as was mentioned in the announcement, I was informed and had reasonable reasons to believe that the gofundme was not affiliated with her, and was an attempt by some random shitlord to essentially steal her identity and use it to gather free money, and that is why it was deleted from the forums
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Jun 26, 2020 22:53
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A big flaming stink posted:are we allowed to talk about reene also being an alleged abuser in this thread lmao asking for permission, so sad
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Antifa Poltergeist posted:Imma gonna be honest here,the circunstances that lead to this are very lovely, but the wildness and unlawfullness of the forums in the last days are kinda fun. it'll be like that episode of west wing where the sexy lawyer staff dude is defending school vouchers to the chief of staff's daughter in a m night shamalan twist where he's passionately defending everything he stands against. Then a sexy blonde republican comes on screen and the audience track switches to hooting and howling and cat calls and aron sorkin winks as an extra in the background of the scene
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A big flaming stink posted:are we allowed to talk about reene also being an alleged abuser in this thread who is reene I can't keep track of all these people
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twoday posted:as far as I am aware, Lady Ambien has contacted the admins and requested, for understandable reasons of privacy, that as little about personal info about her be posted on the forums as possible, and the motivation for removing the police reports was an attempt to fulfill that request. Likewise, as was mentioned in the announcement, I was informed and had reasonable reasons to believe that the gofundme was not affiliated with her, and was an attempt by some random shitlord to essentially steal her identity and use it to gather free money, and that is why it was deleted from the forums e: said better below: Good Soldier Svejk posted:So let me stop you here Marzzle posted:who is reene I can't keep track of all these people wow mod that was elevated to admin status in the wake of the ppj nazi hunter saga for ????? reasons
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twoday posted:as far as I am aware, Lady Ambien has contacted the admins and requested, for understandable reasons of privacy, that as little about personal info about her be posted on the forums as possible, and the motivation for removing the police reports was an attempt to fulfill that request. Likewise, as was mentioned in the announcement, I was informed and had reasonable reasons to believe that the gofundme was not affiliated with her, and was an attempt by some random shitlord to essentially steal her identity and use it to gather free money, and that is why it was deleted from the forums So let me stop you here It is reasonable to believe that she is capable of contacting the mods and admins now to remove evidence of lowtax's wrongdoing but she was incapable of doing the same when it was necessary/a means to provide for her well-being through donations? you know how obvious this lie is
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Jun 26, 2020 22:56
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:she's not as for this matter, I don't want to disclose the details of what I've heard, also for privacy reasons, but I believe these allegations to be a sickening perversion of the truth of the situation
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Jun 26, 2020 22:56
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Valleyant posted:BELIEVE THE MODS CITIZEN
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:So let me stop you here I was under the impression that she herself made it clear that it was not her gofundme, and I haven't yet seen any indication that it was (besides PJ's post), but maybe you have seen something I haven't, in which case please share
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Jun 26, 2020 22:58
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:you have a gritty av. try not to spread allegations from an admin from encylopedia dramatica -- one of most bigoted and racist sites on the internet. i'll be back in a few hours Says the mod under lowtax
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Jun 26, 2020 22:59
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gently caress i love the thin blue line
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Jun 26, 2020 22:59
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twoday posted:I was under the impression that she herself made it clear that it was not her gofundme, and I haven't yet seen any indication that it was (besides PJ's post), but maybe you have seen something I haven't, in which case please share You are "under the impression" or you "know"? Can you reveal who gave you that impression
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Jun 26, 2020 22:59
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twoday posted:as for this matter, I don't want to disclose the details of what I've heard, also for privacy reasons, but I believe these allegations to be a sickening perversion of the truth of the situation i myself am not privy to any information in this regard so i cant comment on this, but putting all these allegations aside, do you believe Reene's behavior up to this point as an admin has been reasonable, and that her actions during LadyAmbien's abuse are, or are not, disqualifying? Moreover, do you believe that the various users calling for Reene's de-admining have reasonable concerns against Reene? If you do not intend to de-admin reene, are you prepared for this userbase to lose further faith in the administration's unbiasedness?
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Jun 26, 2020 22:59
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:you have a gritty av. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=am0pQx-dSpk
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Jun 26, 2020 23:03
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Good Soldier Svejk posted:You are "under the impression" or you "know"? Code for "another mod told me so in the private mod forum"
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PERPETUAL IDIOT posted:Code for "another mod told me so in the private mod forum" Mods cannot help but impulsively spread the hearsay of other mods gently caress I would not be surprised if it was from lowtax himself
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startin to feel like this whiplash between 10 different topics, with each one deserving serious consideration and investigation and judgment, is loving confusing and is maybe part of why i can never remember anything because eventually it comes down to who posts the most
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slopJoe 2020330 posted:startin to feel like this whiplash between 10 different topics, with each one deserving serious consideration and investigation and judgment, is loving confusing and is maybe part of why i can never remember anything because eventually it comes down to who posts the most believe me and no one else, fastest meltdowns in CSPAM bay bee
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slopJoe 2020330 posted:startin to feel like this whiplash between 10 different topics, with each one deserving serious consideration and investigation and judgment, is loving confusing and is maybe part of why i can never remember anything because eventually it comes down to who posts the most
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We have investigated ourselves and found ourselves innocent.
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slopJoe 2020330 posted:startin to feel like this whiplash between 10 different topics, with each one deserving serious consideration and investigation and judgment, is loving confusing and is maybe part of why i can never remember anything because eventually it comes down to who posts the most now youre gettin it
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