|
Tragic. Good news is all the mini-tutorials along the way you can just run past. You only need to visit the museum.
|
#
?
Jun 28, 2020 02:51
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 9, 2024 14:59 |
|
|
Lmao that's some spectacularly bad luck. But get past the first cycle and the game's structure will render even those kind of unlikely events irrelevant.
|
|
#
?
Jun 28, 2020 02:52
|
|
|
I'm pretty sure once you get past the first cycle, it saves whenever you quit.
|
|
#
?
Jun 28, 2020 03:08
|
|
|
So I just finished getting all the achievements for this, playing like I had never played before and only went where clues/hints guided me. Last time I played it was 1.00 and version 1.07 or whatever and good god did they improve the hints for the ash twin puzzle. They are SO MUCH BETTER this time around. I think with what they did to all the clues would've lead me to figure it out without consulting a guide if I had played this version first. The biggest help was them completely redoing the artwork on the wall in the high energy lab. Doesn't completely give it away but the visual cue is a million times easier to parse the significance of. Managed to squeeze another 17 hours out of my favorite game from last year for $16. Consider me a happy customer 
|
|
#
?
Jun 28, 2020 03:57
|
|
|
Picked this up on steam sale, and I went into it blind not expecting or knowing anything. After some initial hiccups with the control scheme and steam not playing together nicely, I got going and then basically just couldn't stop until I reached the end. I ran through it and got the "indended" (I think?) ending, but it was a loving wild ride: I got the coordinates, and I found the Vessel, and I figured out I needed to take the Vessel to the Eye. I played entirely without autopilot because I *know* how to fly a goddamn spaceship. I was coming in hot to the Dark Bramble, since time was an issue due to my ship deciding to move to the ember twin while I was getting the warp core. I realized that removing the core would mean the time loop would stop, so having only this one chance really made me paranoid. I almost opted to put the core back, but decided to press on. So at about 3km out from Dark Bramble, at about 800m/s my controllers batteries decide to pick that exact moment to die. So I freak out thinking it was the game loving with me. I manage to get new batteries in, but it's too late to recover the ship. I plowed into the Dark Bramble and completely destroyed the ship and was down to just a sliver of HP and very little time. I pressed on, coasting through the grave and past the angler fish. I managed to get to the control room of the vessel with 10 seconds or so of oxygen left, at around 20:00 on the clock. It made the ending that much more poignant to me. I'm really happy I decided to buy this on a whim. I'm still humming the theme that the little aliens play. Though, now I'm wondering what happens if you don't succeed during that last cycle. And if you can do any kind of shenanigans with that last cycle. I have a few ideas I want to try 
|
|
#
?
Jun 29, 2020 18:33
|
|
|
Kurr de la Cruz posted:It made the ending that much more poignant to me. I'm really happy I decided to buy this on a whim. I'm still humming the theme that the little aliens play. Though, now I'm wondering what happens if you don't succeed during that last cycle. And if you can do any kind of shenanigans with that last cycle. I have a few ideas I want to try There are plenty of things you can do to "break" the game, and the game rewards you for it. Experiment with things in the ash twin project as well as in the high energy lab.
|
|
#
?
Jun 29, 2020 18:41
|
|
|
Kurr de la Cruz posted:
If you die or run out of time during the "final" run, even after grabbing the core, the loop just repeats as normal. Edit: I am wrong, though it's effectively the same result -- you can keep going either way. WhiteHowler fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Jun 29, 2020 |
|
#
?
Jun 29, 2020 18:42
|
|
|
WhiteHowler posted:Endgame spoiler: Fortunately, it doesn't. Well, poo poo. I treated it like it was no gently caress-ups allowed. I'm glad though because it really felt like it was for keeps and the pressure and relief at just barely squeaking through to the finish line was extremely gratifying.
|
|
#
?
Jun 29, 2020 18:44
|
|
|
Kurr de la Cruz posted:Well, poo poo. I treated it like it was no gently caress-ups allowed. I'm glad though because it really felt like it was for keeps and the pressure and relief at just barely squeaking through to the finish line was extremely gratifying.
|
|
#
?
Jun 29, 2020 18:45
|
|
|
WhiteHowler posted:Endgame spoiler: Fortunately, it doesn't. That's not true. You get a screen that says "game over" and you get kicked to the main menu. You can keep going from the start of the loop though.
|
|
#
?
Jun 29, 2020 18:46
|
|
|
The game really did ooze a lot of charm, I think. That first moment when you lay eyes on your ship, and it's this thing that even a Kerbal would think twice about flying in was just  ... Are the thrusters made of wood???
|
|
#
?
Jun 29, 2020 18:57
|
|
|
Kurr de la Cruz posted:Well, poo poo. I treated it like it was no gently caress-ups allowed. I'm glad though because it really felt like it was for keeps and the pressure and relief at just barely squeaking through to the finish line was extremely gratifying. whitehowler has it wrong - if you die holding the core that powers the ash twin project, you do indeed die for realsies, game over. however the designers of the game aren't sadists and if you die for real you restart at the beginning of the loop as per usual, just without anything that you did being saved because it didn't 'happen'
|
|
#
?
Jun 29, 2020 19:06
|
|
|
Huh, I don't remember that (because it happened to me). Well, okay, either way, you can try again with no penalty.
|
|
#
?
Jun 29, 2020 19:10
|
|
|
Yeah, it has to bow to gaming conventions in the end- you still have a save file and dying for real reverts to it, leaving the context of the game in the process. Even if they had tried to cut you off after one chance it would have been trivial to circumvent so just annoying and extremely not fun for all but the most hardcore. There are a couple of other places you can die for realsies. The 22 minute timer is running throughout the tutorial, so if you take too long getting to the museum and linking to the statue or die to some accident before that you can get a premature game over. You can cause a time paradox in the high energy lab and destroy the universe. I think there's one or two others.
|
|
#
?
Jun 29, 2020 19:17
|
|
|
there's very little noticeable difference between a real death and a loop death. my first death was slipping and falling trying to climb out of the village crater in timber hearth, before i ever got the launch codes this is why they make such a big deal of it if in the high energy lab you do the stupid thing and break space and time like a real knucklehead, though i'm sure the nomai would be mixed proud/horrified by your clumsy achievements haveblue posted:There are a couple of other places you can die for realsies. The 22 minute timer is running throughout the tutorial, so if you take too long getting to the museum and linking to the statue you can get a premature game over. You can cause a time paradox in the high energy lab and destroy the universe. I think there's one or two others. i'm pretty sure that the timer doesn't kick in until you get the codes because i spent a loooong time dicking around on timber hearth just goggling at the world. but this was in the initial release version of the game
|
|
#
?
Jun 29, 2020 19:18
|
|
|
Yeah the timer doesn't start until the first save, because anything else would immediately turn off new players who just wanted to explore the area (and maybe fall down a geyser and drown)
|
|
#
?
Jun 29, 2020 19:22
|
|
|
Yeah in all loops the actual timer doesn't start until you either enter the codes or blast off (not sure which.) You can however fall into the geysers and die before imprinting on the nomai statue, which gets you the bad ending.
|
|
#
?
Jun 29, 2020 19:24
|
|
|
God drat there's like 7 places I feel I need to go but I can't find access to a single one.
|
|
#
?
Jun 29, 2020 19:43
|
|
|
mastershakeman posted:God drat there's like 7 places I feel I need to go but I can't find access to a single one.
|
|
#
?
Jun 29, 2020 19:46
|
|
|
WhiteHowler posted:People in this thread are good about giving somewhat vague hints that don't give everything away. Where are you stuck? Can't find my way to the lakebed cave on ember twin, southern observatory on brittle hollow , or what to do with the comet even when Im on it at what I think is the right time. I also got to a place with a big U shaped switch that did..something except I died right after and never found it again. Oh and I think I have "more to find" in the city full of sand but did make it to the anglerfish. Did I miss something in the eye workshop area? I thought I explored all 4 routes you light up there Ive seen spoilers for how to bypass the current on giants deep but don't want to until I discover it myself, because I screwed up seeing about an access point in the glacier at brittle. I did make it there on my own following gravity paths but never found that egress and think I'm leaving part of it unexplored.
|
|
#
?
Jun 29, 2020 19:52
|
|
|
So, uh, regarding the other game in the title of this thread: has anyone here played it? I just came across it in the Playstation store, and boy howdy does it look good. I figure if the people who like Outer Wilds also like Outer Worlds, it is probably worth checking out.
|
|
#
?
Jun 29, 2020 19:55
|
|
|
mastershakeman posted:
it's easy to get here, it's what you do while you're here that can be tough to figure out what did the nomai discover in this cave? mastershakeman posted:
a clue can be found with the cool glowing thing in the museum. where was it found? you basically have to take a hike to get there mastershakeman posted:
there are two things to discover on the comet one of the things is actually inside the comet you are likely correct about the timing part. remember, comets are made of ice! Veni Vidi Ameche! posted:So, uh, regarding the other game in the title of this thread: has anyone here played it? I just came across it in the Playstation store, and boy howdy does it look good. outer worlds is pretty bad, it's super generic and forgettable if you want to play it, don't pay more than a few bucks for it. you might get some entertainment out of it. i quit playing halfway through because it was just terminally dull
|
|
#
?
Jun 29, 2020 19:58
|
|
|
In regards to the lakebed cave, Think about what the notes said that were related to it. I don't know if you've reached the areas of the game that teach the concepts, but there is a big concept in the game that governs how some areas work.
|
|
#
?
Jun 29, 2020 20:09
|
|
|
Veni Vidi Ameche! posted:So, uh, regarding the other game in the title of this thread: has anyone here played it? I just came across it in the Playstation store, and boy howdy does it look good. It's fallout but bad
|
|
#
?
Jun 29, 2020 20:10
|
|
|
The only connection between Outer Wilds and Outer Worlds is that they are both Outer W*lds games. Outer Worlds is a fallout style game from the people who made New Vegas. If you liked FONV, then you might like Outer Worlds. Just keep in mind that the game is a mile wide and a few feet deep. As opposed to Outer Wilds which is pretty small but is very deep.
|
|
#
?
Jun 29, 2020 20:12
|
|
|
Cojawfee posted:In regards to the lakebed cave, Think about what the notes said that were related to it. I don't know if you've reached the areas of the game that teach the concepts, but there is a big concept in the game that governs how some areas work. [Spoiler] well I get the quantum rock if that's what you mean. I'm not even sure I've found the cave, I go straight down from your buddy up top who's jamming out to thousands of supernovas, and find....sand rising. There's stairs , I've gone up and down, I've tried I think 5 restarts where I beeline straight there , it's all dead ends. I'm even using the scout for extra light and I feel like I'm going at the wrong time or something but might just not be in the right spot at all despite being at the North Pole. North is red correct? [/spoiler ]
|
|
#
?
Jun 29, 2020 20:13
|
|
|
mastershakeman posted:well I get the quantum rock if that's what you mean. I'm not even sure I've found the cave, I go straight down from your buddy up top who's jamming out to thousands of supernovas, and find....sand rising. There's stairs , I've gone up and down, I've tried I think 5 restarts where I beeline straight there , it's all dead ends. I'm even using the scout for extra light and I feel like I'm going at the wrong time or something but might just not be in the right spot at all despite being at the North Pole. North is red correct? If you found a cave down there at all then that's what you are looking for. Another hint I'll give is keep looking, even if you think you've already looked somewhere in that cave, look again
|
|
#
?
Jun 29, 2020 20:22
|
|
|
mastershakeman posted:well I get the quantum rock if that's what you mean. I'm not even sure I've found the cave, I go straight down from your buddy up top who's jamming out to thousands of supernovas, and find....sand rising. Also, there's a HUGE hint for this in another location. The Tower of Quantum Trials on Giant's Deep basically spells out everything quantum-related, and it's a shame that you can find it so late in the game.
|
|
#
?
Jun 29, 2020 20:24
|
|
|
^^^ ah ok I'm looking in the wrong placeCojawfee posted:If you found a cave down there at all then that's what you are looking for. Another hint I'll give is keep looking, even if you think you've already looked somewhere in that cave, look again I haven't that's the problem. Is that the right place to look though? I keep getting crushed while investigating Back to running around brittle hollow I guess
|
|
#
?
Jun 29, 2020 20:30
|
|
|
mastershakeman posted:^^^ ah ok I'm looking in the wrong place
|
|
#
?
Jun 29, 2020 20:34
|
|
|
It needs to be the first place you go when the loop starts. You have plenty of time to figure it out if you head straight for it.
|
|
#
?
Jun 29, 2020 20:34
|
|
|
I appreciate the help, you guys are oblique as hell ! I'm gonna go stand for 22 minute on the sand a few times I guess. I have found a little tunnel in that spot that just dead ends and I did every time Right now it seems the only place I can even make progress is brittle hollow which is frustrating. I think I get what to do to get to other spots I just don't know how to change the target from the white hole station. I'm assuming that can take me to the half dozen places I cant enter - ash twin, this lakebed cave area, forge, high energy lab mastershakeman fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Jun 29, 2020 |
|
#
?
Jun 29, 2020 20:49
|
|
|
mastershakeman posted:I appreciate the help, you guys are oblique as hell ! I'm gonna go stand for 22 minute on the sand a few times I guess. I have found a little tunnel in that spot that just dead ends and I did every time you are making it to the correct spot. you just don't know what to do when you get there. standing around won't solve the puzzle remember, why is this cave important? what did the nomai describe finding there? you should come back later after you learn more about the behavior of quantum stuff mastershakeman posted:Right now it seems the only place I can even make progress is brittle hollow which is frustrating. I think I get what to do to get to other spots I just don't know how to change the target from the white hole station. I'm assuming that can take me to the half dozen places I cant enter - ash twin, this lakebed cave area, forge, high energy lab you're on the wrong track here - teleporters are paired and cannot be retargeted. teleporter movement is important, but every teleporter set is fixed
|
|
#
?
Jun 29, 2020 21:37
|
|
|
luxury handset posted:you are making it to the correct spot. you just don't know what to do when you get there. standing around won't solve the puzzle For a more substantial hint, standing around WILL let you solve the puzzle. What matters is where you're standing. There's several areas in the game that you should probably get to first before trying this one, though, since it's a culmination of a couple of different concepts.
|
|
#
?
Jun 29, 2020 21:50
|
|
|
luxury handset posted:you are making it to the correct spot. you just don't know what to do when you get there. standing around won't solve the puzzle Thanks. I actually did just find a paired teleporter , finally realizing how to get to brittle hollow upside down from ash twin. Hooray mastershakeman fucked around with this message at 22:18 on Jun 29, 2020 |
|
#
?
Jun 29, 2020 22:10
|
|
|
luxury handset posted:outer worlds is pretty bad, it's super generic and forgettable Arrhythmia posted:It's fallout but bad Cojawfee posted:Just keep in mind that the game is a mile wide and a few feet deep. As opposed to Outer Wilds which is pretty small but is very deep. Aw  Oh, well. Thanks.
|
|
#
?
Jun 29, 2020 22:19
|
|
|
luxury handset posted:
Thanks. That was going to be the next game I checked out in the 'Outer' series but I think I'll skip it based on your rec. Pretty disappointing since it's Obsidian...
|
|
#
?
Jun 29, 2020 23:04
|
|
|
Coq au Nandos posted:Also major spoilers: it turns out there’s a way to beat the game without using the ship at all. This is an absolutely insane run. https://youtu.be/YLROMSxEkiQ Digging up this link to a mind-blowing video of someone completing the game without ever launching their ship for the new audience. The video obviously spoils a bunch of late game stuff.
|
|
#
?
Jun 29, 2020 23:47
|
|
|
Bedshaped posted:Pretty disappointing since it's Obsidian... that's probably why it is so disappointing - if it were some other random studio you'd never heard of the consensus might be "eh, average first attempt, i'll keep an eye on them to see the next game they make" with the pedigree outer worlds had it is shocking how bland the final product was
|
|
#
?
Jun 30, 2020 00:53
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 9, 2024 14:59 |
|
|
mastershakeman posted:I appreciate the help, you guys are oblique as hell ! I'm gonna go stand for 22 minute on the sand a few times I guess. I have found a little tunnel in that spot that just dead ends and I did every time What's in the dead end you're talking about? I think there's another room it could be other than what everyone else is thinking you're meaning.
|
|
#
?
Jun 30, 2020 01:11
|
|
