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White people produce movies for white people that seem weird to non-whites. I'm not sure why this is super controversial, presumably these producers are in it to turn a profit so it's not like they personally are racists or something. If you want something with universal appeal stick with tentacle hentai?
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Jun 28, 2020 23:06
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I think both Crazy Rich Asians and The Farewell had shockingly bad openings in China, like these quotesquote:"Crazy Rich Asians ranks in the bottom half of all films released in the country this year," Papish told Al Jazeera, pointing out that the film earned even less than Show Dogs, a US family comedy given a paltry 3.6/10 rating on film-ranking website IMDB, which made $2.2m. quote:Although The Farewell was distributed directly by Maoyan, one of China’s two top online ticketing platforms, the critical darling made a paltry $78,000 on opening day Jan. 11, 2020, accounting for just 1% of the country’s total screenings. Shows were on average only 0.5% occupied, the firm’s own data showed. And opening day was its best day. quote:Presales box office gross for Dead Pigs traced by online ticketing service Maoyan shows that the film has earned just 123,000 yuan ($18,127) as far of Thursday, seating it on the 15th spot on the Friday charts. I don't think these films were made by white people for white people, simple as that. Cathy Yan and Lulu wang both moved to the US from China when they were around 5 years old, and Jon Chu is asian american. I think the disconnect is living in the US rots your brain and there's no way they are going to tell the story of the people in Wuhan, they are going to tell a western orientalist fantasy again, which goes to show that Identity politics are not fundamental to worldview. The farewell and crazy rich asians made a lot of money in the west though, like 5x their budgets, so you will be seeing more. Antonymous has issued a correction as of 01:10 on Jun 29, 2020 |
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Jun 29, 2020 01:08
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So, are people still reading this sub forum/thread? I have been thinking about starting a China vs US trade/tech/finance war thread, any interested?
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Jun 29, 2020 02:38
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Antonymous posted:I think both Crazy Rich Asians and The Farewell had shockingly bad openings in China, like these quotes Taiwan $2,100,000 China $1,650,573 So what you're saying is Taiwan...#1?
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Jun 29, 2020 05:17
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https://twitter.com/AP/status/1277454184057647105
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Jun 29, 2020 07:26
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https://twitter.com/j_smithfinley/status/1276913712486649856?p=v i like how everyone who writes about this story very conspicuously goes out of their way to avoid going into details about who ms meng is and why the united states wants her so bad
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Jun 29, 2020 07:36
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Jun 29, 2020 07:52
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Lucky Grandma was a great movie, I wonder if it will ever appear in China but it was more focused on Chinatown anyway
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Jun 29, 2020 07:56
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Some Guy TT posted:https://twitter.com/j_smithfinley/status/1276913712486649856?p=v "We will not give up our hostage taking activities, regardless of the proportionate reprisals taken in response, the lives of our spooks are meaningless next to proving our fealty to the US."
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Jun 29, 2020 08:19
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Every time I come into this thread I'm in awe of China's ability to just.... Do stuff
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Jun 29, 2020 14:54
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adrian zenz loving 
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Jun 29, 2020 15:19
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shovelbum posted:Every time I come into this thread I'm in awe of China's ability to just.... Do stuff 
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Jun 29, 2020 15:36
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sincx posted:I wonder what the two Michaels actually did. Or maybe they're just dumb incompetent spies. Or just run of the mill child rapists like most other middle aged white guys. But sure let's go with your elaborate hypothesis.
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Jun 29, 2020 15:37
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 https://twitter.com/ajitxsingh/status/1208848881330642945 quote:The second study relied on flimsy media reports and speculation. It was authored by Adrian Zenz, a far-right fundamentalist Christian who opposes homosexuality and gender equality, supports “scriptural spanking” of children, and believes he is “led by God” on a “mission” against China.
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Jun 29, 2020 15:44
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Oh lol it's that moron
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Jun 29, 2020 15:45
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This is a presentation of what China does normally, the two-child policy. Uighurs should have an exception to let them have three children - looks like there might be some corruption if random fines are getting thrown around when they have two or more children. The figures suggesting sterilisation is spiking in Xinjiang is worrying - this is 50,000 sterilisations (250 / 100,000) in 2018? https://twitter.com/S_Rabinovitch/status/1277477870584033280
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Jun 29, 2020 16:48
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Not So Fast posted:This is a presentation of what China does normally, the two-child policy. Uighurs should have an exception to let them have three children - looks like there might be some corruption if random fines are getting thrown around when they have two or more children. Can we please find information on this from someone not connected to the US government or it’s crude propaganda organs? Like the minimum level of accuracy should be above the mad rantings of a far right christofascist
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Jun 29, 2020 19:05
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Lady Militant posted:id sell it to the party sincx posted:Tencent or Alibaba?
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Jun 29, 2020 19:17
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Throatwarbler posted:Or maybe they're just dumb incompetent spies. Or just run of the mill child rapists like most other middle aged white guys. But then why did it take the Chinese government over a year and a half to file charges after detaining them? The absence of evidence provided, along with denying them consular visits or legal representation seems to indicate that they're not really confident in whatever case they have.
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Jun 29, 2020 19:44
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je1 healthcare posted:But then why did it take the Chinese government over a year and a half to file charges after detaining them? The absence of evidence provided, along with denying them consular visits or legal representation seems to indicate that they're not really confident in whatever case they have. maybe it's about making it public at exact right time to demonstrate to western working class the perfidy of their government in their naked aggression against socialism?
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Jun 29, 2020 20:07
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Top City Homo posted:Can we please find information on this from someone not connected to the US government or it’s crude propaganda organs? Like the minimum level of accuracy should be above the mad rantings of a far right christofascist I have a feeling the best thing to do would be to follow whatever sources it is that Zenz is using, and factcheck those to make sure they're accurate / translated properly. It seems like he's relying on public statistics from government, the China Cables, and then whatever witnesses he's found to support him. https://jamestown.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/Zenz-Internment-Sterilizations-and-IUDs.pdf?x60014
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Jun 29, 2020 20:22
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Typo posted:maybe it's about making it public at exact right time to demonstrate to western working class the perfidy of their government in their naked aggression against socialism? Collecting "state secrets" is a vague enough crime in that the CCP can retroactively apply it to anything, regardless of how public the info was to begin with. Such as any photos containing infrastructure or government buildings. Then there was the last time they detained a Canadian couple in 2014. They seemed shady. they were doing evangelical work in/around North Korea and were in contact with diplomats, and had also been hired by the Chinese government to teach english at a military academy in the 80s. But instead they spent over a year trying to extract a confession, only to release the two without charge, coincidentally at around the same time a Chinese spy was transferred out of Canadian custody and plead guilty in the US. https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-canadian-couple-recounts-survival-story-of-their-detention-in-china/ It just seems like a really inefficient counter-espionage process. But maybe the two Michaels are child rapists and the CCP is just keeping that info a secret for some reason
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Jun 29, 2020 20:56
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je1 healthcare posted:But then why did it take the Chinese government over a year and a half to file charges after detaining them? The absence of evidence provided, along with denying them consular visits or legal representation seems to indicate that they're not really confident in whatever case they have. Why has the Canadian legal system held Meng for 2 years and still can't send her to the US? This makes as little sense as the prosecutions of the Canadians.
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Jun 30, 2020 01:05
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They're following their rules which coincidentally allow her to keep living in a luxury mansion, would you care to guess how luxurious the Michaels' detention accommodation is? I get that the CCP is also following its own rules, they just appear much more arbitrary and unjust. At any rate, if I was apprehended for political reasons I'd much rather it be in Canada than in China - what about you?
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Jun 30, 2020 03:15
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i dont own a luxury mansion so the difference isnt as profound to me
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Jun 30, 2020 03:21
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I wasn't raised from birth believing that the Ayatolla Khomeini murdered my entire family like most Americans apparently do, so I guess I'm not very sympathetic to America/Al Qaeda's arguments on that issue generally.
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Jun 30, 2020 03:27
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je1 healthcare posted:Collecting "state secrets" is a vague enough crime in that the CCP can retroactively apply it to anything, regardless of how public the info was to begin with. Such as any photos containing infrastructure or government buildings. Hmm yes I'm sure a former spy (diplomats are spies, FYI) was just innocently running this foreign government sponsored think tank in this other country, what evidence is there that he's a spy? Protip if you are a known former spy and you don't want to get nabbed for spying then maybe don't volunteer to run a "think tank" in the country you are spying on and just go rape children in Canada or some other less important/powerful country. Considering all the blond white Canadian women who were held in bona fide white slave rape dungeons in other countries while the Canadian government are like lol idk she should have obeyed the laws of Somalia, if it turns out these guys weren't spies it would be pretty loving embarrassing for China.
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Jun 30, 2020 03:51
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Jun 30, 2020 05:22
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Is Chinese science far enough ahead of the West that their military vaccine could potentially be legit? Like the consensus is an absolute insane rush program using moron American tech is five to ten years.
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Jun 30, 2020 06:28
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The Chinese military vaccine is literally just skipping a phase in development where you make sure it won't make you go blind or destroy your liver or whatever over a period of months instead of just weeks or days. You could do that with any vaccine candidate, most countries choose not to.
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Jun 30, 2020 06:35
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Jun 30, 2020 06:42
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sincx posted:for the past few weeks, i've been suggesting in the covid thread that the phase 3 trials for the most promising western vaccine (the University of Oxford one) should be opened up to everyone, after informed consent. There will probably be at least limited access to the Oxford vaccine by early fall, if only for the fact that Western states really don't want to call behind the PRC and Phase 3 trials should at least showing some results. Btw, Phase 3 trials aren't "optional" but the issue at the choice at this point is rather utilitarian (how many people would suffer/die from a vaccine versus who would die from COVID considering the US is amidst another full-on outbreak).
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Jun 30, 2020 07:06
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Not So Fast posted:I have a feeling the best thing to do would be to follow whatever sources it is that Zenz is using, and factcheck those to make sure they're accurate / translated properly. It seems like he's relying on public statistics from government, the China Cables, and then whatever witnesses he's found to support him. the best thing to do is to disregard what some right wing victims of communism psycho says here's a guy on twitter, dunno if it's right or not: https://twitter.com/Hubei_Peasant/status/1277653690090995712
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Jun 30, 2020 07:46
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Throatwarbler posted:White people produce movies for white people that seem weird to non-whites. I'm not sure why this is super controversial, presumably these producers are in it to turn a profit so it's not like they personally are racists or something. what an oddly racist post
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Jun 30, 2020 07:51
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sincx posted:https://twitter.com/SCMPNews/status/1277809270101344257 I knew the blowback would come since the Oct 1st protest (2019), funny thing is Hong Kongers are so ignorant about China politics listen to the HK youtubers none of them saw it coming.
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Jun 30, 2020 09:55
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stephenthinkpad posted:Why has the Canadian legal system held Meng for 2 years and still can't send her to the US? This makes as little sense as the prosecutions of the Canadians. They could send her to the US right away, if Meng agrees to be extradited. But she doesn't, so Canadian courts are holding hearings to determine if the extradition request is valid and not politically motivated, which seems pretty important IMO. Also the charges against her were detailed in the arrest warrant that the US publicly issued months before she got arrested, so there's no mystery to that either. Meanwhile Meng is limited to the boundaries of downtown Vancouver as long as she wears an electronic bracelet. Stairmaster posted:what an oddly racist post Yeah, it would be more accurate to say that Crazy Rich Asians was made for westerners and asian-americans, not necessarily white people. An asian-led romcom is novel in the western film market, not so much in asian film markets
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Jun 30, 2020 14:27
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my understanding of the crazy rich asians response in asian markets is mainly just confusion about why americans would want to make a poor girl rich boy romance now all of a sudden when that whole genre became passe years ago and was regularly mocked even when it was still current it would be like if we saw china making an adam sandler style comedy not even being subtle about where the influence was coming from and expecting us to praise them for understanding white culture so much
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Jun 30, 2020 14:35
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i've been trying to research on the function of the National People's Congress. The western view is that its a "rubber stamp parliament" i get that the party is run along dem centralist lines and the NPC is dominated by the party but from my basic research there is strong constituency work being done where the NPC serves as an uplink channel for regional priorities and the delegates have some initiative and input in the five year plan and funding priorities. Or is it all a charade? any research papers available on this?
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Jun 30, 2020 15:38
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sincx posted:you are talking about phase 1 (safety) Phase 3 is also a safety phase. Only 108 people were inoculated in Phase 1, which is far too low to have a statistically significant picture of all but the most common side effects over a relatively short period of time (this is by design; if a vaccine candidate turns out to be basically poison you don't want to inject it into thousands of people). While researchers know that it's at least safe enough to test on larger groups of subjects it's still an open question as to whether the health effects of taking the vaccine outweigh the protective effects of the vaccine. That's the entire point of Phase 3, and it's not something you can skip.
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Jun 30, 2020 19:46
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stephenthinkpad posted:Why has the Canadian legal system held Meng for 2 years and still can't send her to the US? This makes as little sense as the prosecutions of the Canadians. "Being free on bail" vs "kept in a cell with the lights never turned off for over 500 days." 
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