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Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
outside the safety of your roof and walls is known as the 'hot zone'

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Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Mozi posted:

outside the safety of your roof and walls is known as the 'hot zone'

spacetoaster
Feb 10, 2014


lol

Let me guess, the south?

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

Fun Shoe

spacetoaster posted:

lol

Let me guess, the south?

Michigan is very south yes

Fray
Oct 22, 2010

Lmao at goons being baffled at outdoor recreation.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Fray posted:

Lmao at goons being baffled at outdoor recreation.

Why would I want to go outdoor if I have an xbox?

Guy Axlerod
Dec 29, 2008
Yes, I'm aware of sunscreen. I'm just saying people drinking and laying out in full sun in a swimsuit all aren't usually putting it on. They also don't care about the pandemic, and apparently they think their rivers are a circle too.

Hardawn
Mar 15, 2004

Don't look at the sun, but rather what it illuminates
College Slice
I've cum in a full circle too.

Fray
Oct 22, 2010

Guy Axlerod posted:

Yes, I'm aware of sunscreen. I'm just saying people drinking and laying out in full sun in a swimsuit all aren't usually putting it on. They also don't care about the pandemic, and apparently they think their rivers are a circle too.

Nope. C'mon man, I'm sure you can think out how this works.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008


all we know of the man on the bridge is that he was seen playing a fiddle as he walked into the distance

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something
If the rivers aren't circles, then how come the water never runs out?

Checkpoint, morans.

Mithaldu
Sep 25, 2007

Let's cuddle. :3:
The UK was hiding non-hospital positive covid cases from business owners.

https://www.ft.com/content/301c847c-a317-4950-a75b-8e66933d423a

AreWeDrunkYet
Jul 8, 2006

schmug posted:

this is still the best tubing story every:

https://www.mlive.com/news/muskegon/2016/07/muskegon_river_tubing_trip_tur.html

quote:

"They were informed by somebody at the bridge that the river goes in a circle and if they put in there they would come back to their car,"

So these ladies have the same understanding of gravity as Escher.

e: Actually maybe they are onto something. With some canals and locks to move uphill, if someone could create a tubing circuit you wouldn't need two+ cars every time.

AreWeDrunkYet fucked around with this message at 15:17 on Jun 30, 2020

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
i'm pretty sure there are water parks w/ a circular tubing river but in nature such things do generally not occur

SpaceGoatFarts
Jan 5, 2010

sic transit gloria mundi


Nap Ghost

Mithaldu posted:

The UK was hiding non-hospital positive covid cases from business owners.

https://www.ft.com/content/301c847c-a317-4950-a75b-8e66933d423a

Pretty much every country in the world is hiding cases and deaths.

Many countries are only counting deaths happening in hospitals, while a huge number of death takes place among old people in elderly care facilities or at home. These people are never tested and don't enter the statistics.

Bloody Hedgehog
Dec 12, 2003

💥💥🤯💥💥
Gotta nuke something

AreWeDrunkYet posted:

e: Actually maybe they are onto something. With some canals and locks to move uphill, if someone could create a tubing circuit you wouldn't need two+ cars every time.

Yes, it's called a waterpark.

Mithaldu
Sep 25, 2007

Let's cuddle. :3:

SpaceGoatFarts posted:

Pretty much every country in the world is hiding cases and deaths.

Many countries are only counting deaths happening in hospitals, while a huge number of death takes place among old people in elderly care facilities or at home. These people are never tested and don't enter the statistics.

Might wanna clarify about which countries you have this info and for recently it was last updated.

SpaceGoatFarts
Jan 5, 2010

sic transit gloria mundi


Nap Ghost

Mithaldu posted:

Might wanna clarify about which countries you have this info and for recently it was last updated.


I don't understand your question? There has been countless articles and testimonies about old people dying in care centers or home and never being tested.

In my country they decided to publish the "suspected" and confirmed case deaths together, and around 50% of the deaths took place in care centers, where we know testing is not systematic.

Because of that our death rate is among the worse worldwide. The most logical conclusion is that the other countries are not publishing suspected cases death numbers. And that's not even counting places like Florida where there was a deliberate policy to hide the real numbers.

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

Apparently members of my extended family went on a beach trip in South Carolina (it's okay because it's a private beach house!!!). Everyone but 2 people now have coronavirus symptoms. 11 people went for testing. So far 8 positive results.

:ughh:

Fray
Oct 22, 2010

AreWeDrunkYet posted:


So these ladies have the same understanding of gravity as Escher.

e: Actually maybe they are onto something. With some canals and locks to move uphill, if someone could create a tubing circuit you wouldn't need two+ cars every time.

The best way I've done it was with a biking group. Since everyone had a bike and car rack, you drop them off at the takeout point, lock them to trees or whatever, and use them for your return.

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

lol now OC, CA is at close to 60% capacity for ICU beds. we're all dead as gently caress

total of about 6600 beds in the county, 300 of which are ICU. 485 total beds in use, 175 of those are ICU

gently caress

boar guy fucked around with this message at 16:47 on Jun 30, 2020

flubber nuts
Oct 5, 2005


Ehud posted:

Apparently members of my extended family went on a beach trip in South Carolina (it's okay because it's a private beach house!!!). Everyone but 2 people now have coronavirus symptoms. 11 people went for testing. So far 8 positive results.

:ughh:

they did everything they could. haunted houses this year are just going to be simulated public indoor spaces

Captain Beans
Aug 5, 2004

Whar be the beans?
Hair Elf

boar guy posted:

lol now OC, CA is at close to 60% capacity for ICU beds. we're all dead as gently caress

total of about 6600 beds in the county, 300 of which are ICU. 485 total beds in use, 175 of those are ICU

gently caress

not to question that we are all dead as gently caress and all death is certain but...

isn't 60% occupancy for ICU beds incredibly low? most hospitals seem to run quite full even in the best of times, some hospital ceos were talking about that in Houston last week. did OC, CA go from like 20% to 60% in a week or something?

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



60 percent is not high

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

oh cool im going to the bar, see ya

Ehud
Sep 19, 2003

football.

BIG TIT LIL NIP posted:

they did everything they could. haunted houses this year are just going to be simulated public indoor spaces

lol

family update - every single person now has symptoms.

so 15 people went to a beach house

and every single person got rona

:thumbsup:

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

4th of july should be a shitshow

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Fatkraken posted:

Things i never thought I'd see in this thread: a robot head from an obscure canadian-german mid 90s sci-fi/softcore porn tv series which i was thinking about literally a couple days ago because every time i see the number 790 it comes to mind



On pharma companies: do not trust them. The regulations are toothless and inadequate, the culture is one of lying, misleading, withholding information, bribery, misleading marketing, and generally skirting the edges of what is technically legal but completely immoral and unscientific. there is a very good book on the subject called Bad Pharma by Ben Goldacre which should be required reading which reveals the routine everyday misleading information and bad behaviour these companies universally engage in. It's absolutely shocking in how utterly ubiquitous it is. It's on Audible if anyone has that, here is a TED talk (a good non bullshit one, Ben Goldacre is solid) that covers a fraction of itc

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RKmxL8VYy0M

I've worked in Pharma for a decade at a variety of companies and the way I would describe it is if you gave TCC a corporation and their goal was to make profit instead of getting hosed up.

Some real elaborate thinking and corner cutting goes on in the industry as everyone rules-lawyers the Code of Federal Regulations and the FDA.

johncandy
Jun 29, 2020

by Athanatos

Hmm. Advice and forecasting from Dr.Tedros. Great

I haven't checked the news for a few months. Have they confirmed person to person transmission being possible yet?

johncandy fucked around with this message at 17:29 on Jun 30, 2020

dee eight
Dec 18, 2002

The Spirit
of Maynard

:catdrugs:

boar guy posted:

july will be a shitshow

ftfy

Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.

Ok but how about that big yellow ball in the vertical plane above our heads? What’s *that* for?

rotinaj
Sep 5, 2008

Fun Shoe

Rectal Death Adept posted:

I've worked in Pharma for a decade at a variety of companies and the way I would describe it is if you gave TCC a corporation and their goal was to make profit instead of getting hosed up.

Some real elaborate thinking and corner cutting goes on in the industry as everyone rules-lawyers the Code of Federal Regulations and the FDA.

But wait there was someone who works as a nurse in this thread saying that the pharma companies couldn’t possibly do something shady in the name of profit

Who do I trust, pharmaceutical companies capacity for good or human greed?

flubber nuts
Oct 5, 2005


Comfy Fleece Sweater posted:

Ok but how about that big yellow ball in the vertical plane above our heads? What’s *that* for?

when the blood is dirty we open our vessels to the great protector orb in the sky. my blood is clean, my blood Is sterile

Jolo
Jun 4, 2007

ive been playing with magnuts tying to change the wold as we know it

That's a big light suspended from the dome above the flat disc we're on called earth. If it was as hot as people claim that it is then the ice walls at the borders of the earth would melt and all of the water would fall off.

Cacafuego
Jul 22, 2007

rotinaj posted:

But wait there was someone who works as a nurse in this thread saying that the pharma companies couldn’t possibly do something shady in the name of profit

Who do I trust, pharmaceutical companies capacity for good or human greed?

I didn’t say that.

I openly acknowledge that pharma does shady poo poo. My point was that with the level of scrutiny on the current covid vaccine studies, it would be hard for them to pull extremely dangerous shenanigans like hiding adverse drug reactions.

They will absolutely do whatever they can in the name of profits and as said above, they’ll interpret the rules in ways that will benefit them the most.

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

rotinaj posted:

But wait there was someone who works as a nurse in this thread saying that the pharma companies couldn’t possibly do something shady in the name of profit

Who do I trust, pharmaceutical companies capacity for good or human greed?

I mean, thats wrong. Factories are re-using old drug product, pencil whipping batch records and inspections, mislabeling product or avoiding recalls or whatever.

It's up to the FDA to control poo poo like this and in 15 years I've heard of two audits I didn't experience and experienced one. There are factories operating right now that registered for the FDA 10 years ago and have never heard from them. poo poo, there was one company with "Laboratories" in the name that was making solid dose tablets breaking bad style in a literal RV with manual tablet spokes and it took them like 3 years to get shut down.

When the vast majority of regulation is self-imposed then profit based companies aren't going to choose the more expensive moral high ground. I could write a book on the poo poo I've seen and everyone keeps it quiet because they want to keep their jobs.

unpacked robinhood
Feb 18, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
Uuuh I'm a reasonable industry guy with tons of experience doing data entry and modding on /r/feet and I can say with confidence that the vaccine can be bad for a variety of reasons but you'd be wrong to worry about it.

Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.

unpacked robinhood posted:

Uuuh I'm a reasonable industry guy with tons of experience doing data entry and modding on /r/feet and I can say with confidence that the vaccine can be bad for a variety of reasons but you'd be wrong to worry about it.

Give me the reasons why it could be bad

Rectal Death Adept
Jun 20, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
there may be extra scrutiny on the vaccine data itself during trials but once we get an accepted vaccine then the glass manufacturers / sterile component manufacturers / API manufacturers / packagers / warehouses in that supply chain are going to go hog wild trying to make hundreds of millions of doses no matter what.

There will probably be variables outside of the initial testing and trials introduced at that point. Like a cheap rear end packager using a cut rate shipper that has poor/no temperature control in their trucks, or a warehouse trying to process overflow capacity when they don't have temperature controlled spaces for all of the flow through.

Weird how this proven safe vaccine changes slightly when exposed to a temp excursion. Whoops.

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Steely Dad
Jul 29, 2006



I'm agonizing over whether to keep my preschool-aged kids home or send them back to school. Their school has reopened, and the AAP is pushing for kids to get back to school, I think socializing is important for kids their age, but there's also a terrifying pandemic going on. The alternative would be to hire a nanny to work in my home, or potentially a live-in caregiver, but I'm not sure those options are lower risk. Help me, thread.

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