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Raenir Salazar posted:I feel like there was some book or other webcomic whether the author had a tongue in cheek complaint about how far things have moved since they first started writing. El Goonish Shive. The comic is still in the late 90s, I think.
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You just made me remember mega tokyo and I dare not check to see if it still exists and if it's still taking place in the same 5 day period of like 2003
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Jun 30, 2020 06:19
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Raenir Salazar posted:I feel like there was some book or other webcomic whether the author had a tongue in cheek complaint about how far things have moved since they first started writing. I know Asimov had a forward in one of his Foundation books about how the science mistakes were because new discoveries hadn't happened yet when he first started writing and joked about that, but that's a different category. Warren Ellis wrote at one point about how the jumped-up cell phones he gave the operatives in Global Frequency were absolutely science fiction in the first issue, but ended up being old hat by the twelfth.
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Jun 30, 2020 06:47
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Wolfsheim posted:You just made me remember mega tokyo and I dare not check to see if it still exists and if it's still taking place in the same 5 day period of like 2003 I'll make this as clear as I can- Megatokyo is still running, the story is on day twelve or so, and everything wrong with it is still happening, possibly worse.
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Jun 30, 2020 06:55
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I actually like Megatokyo since it delivers in its central premise and I think people that are hard on it are still in the early 2000's mindset when it was trendy to hate on webcomic artists in lieu of developing their own interests.
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Jun 30, 2020 07:13
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Raenir Salazar posted:I actually like Megatokyo since it delivers in its central premise and I think people that are hard on it are still in the early 2000's mindset when it was trendy to hate on webcomic artists in lieu of developing their own interests. Is its central premise to suck really, really slowly?
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Jun 30, 2020 07:51
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Post poste posted:El Goonish Shive. The comic is still in the late 90s, I think. "EGS takes place in a different universe in the year 20XX" --https://www.egscomics.com/comic/party-171 (yes, it's 171 pages on in a "party" arc that mostly consists of people sitting on a couch and expositing at each other so that everyone is caught up on the plot)
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Jun 30, 2020 08:12
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trucutru posted:Is its central premise to suck really, really slowly? No? These sort of bad faith criticisms are basically in the same category of bad faith criticisms that happened to Twilight where it's more about jumping uncritically onto a moving bandwagon of cthonic shifting goalposts than actually being interested in good faith in depth analysis and more about the nihilistic worship of toxic negativity of hating things for the sake of hating things and dissing on people who care like your the writers of south park and people should have honestly outgrown it by now.
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Jun 30, 2020 08:18
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Speaking of old comics, anyone else remember Real Life Comics? It came up across my twitter feed yesterday and there are some changes going on which are, unexpected, but I am here for.
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Jun 30, 2020 08:19
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Manuel Calavera posted:Speaking of old comics, anyone else remember Real Life Comics? It came up across my twitter feed yesterday and there are some changes going on which are, unexpected, but I am here for. I bookmarked it to read later after seeing this pop up in my twitter feed. 
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Jun 30, 2020 08:24
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Raenir Salazar posted:No? These sort of bad faith criticisms are basically in the same category of bad faith criticisms that happened to Twilight where it's more about jumping uncritically onto a moving bandwagon of cthonic shifting goalposts than actually being interested in good faith in depth analysis and more about the nihilistic worship of toxic negativity of hating things for the sake of hating things and dissing on people who care like your the writers of south park and people should have honestly outgrown it by now. I wish I could say this was the most pompous, pseudo-intellectual take on "OMG YOU'RE JUST A BUNCH OF HATERS" I've ever read, but we both know that's not the case. It's ok to like bad things. I like a lot of very bad things as well. Acknowledge that "Megatokyo is bad" has been the consensus for 15-odd years, and that it's on you to explain why you're the exception in enjoying it.
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Jun 30, 2020 12:50
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I don't dislike Megatokyo because it was 'trendy' or whatever, I read that comic for probably five years, I bought the first three volumes, and then I gradually grew to dislike the characters and plot all on my lonesome.
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Jun 30, 2020 13:09
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Raenir Salazar posted:No? These sort of bad faith criticisms Love to cry about bad faith arguments after flopping down my stance of "Everyone that criticizes this is only doing it cause it's cool to dislike it" Buddy, the percentage of people online right now that know what Megatokyo even is, let alone the amount of people actively talking about it, is so loving tiny. Nobody is doing that poo poo for clout.
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Jun 30, 2020 13:39
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Manuel Calavera posted:Speaking of old comics, anyone else remember Real Life Comics? It came up across my twitter feed yesterday and there are some changes going on which are, unexpected, but I am here for. Holy poo poo. Welcome to the club, "Greg!!" Yesterday's comic was way more on-the-nose than I was expected. The revelation there is almost the same one that finally broke me. Mine was a little bit closer to "I'd rather be ugly than dead," but still... Too many feelings here to properly process. Also, even though I myself am trans, I just realized I don't know the proper pronouns to use for someone who has decided they're transitioning, but has not yet told everyone their new name or preferred pronouns going forward. Using "they" of course is the easy call on the pronoun front, but it feels so disrespectful to still use Greg. I suppose that is still their name for the time being, though... Gosh, this is so exciting. And scary.
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Jun 30, 2020 14:16
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oobey posted:Holy poo poo. Welcome to the club, "Greg!!" Yesterday's comic was way more on-the-nose than I was expected. The revelation there is almost the same one that finally broke me. Mine was a little bit closer to "I'd rather be ugly than dead," but still... If you don't care about being spoiled on it, the author's new name is listed in the wikipedia article for Real Life Comics.
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Jun 30, 2020 14:22
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Raenir Salazar posted:No? These sort of bad faith criticisms are basically in the same category of bad faith criticisms that happened to Twilight where it's more about jumping uncritically onto a moving bandwagon of cthonic shifting goalposts than actually being interested in good faith in depth analysis and more about the nihilistic worship of toxic negativity of hating things for the sake of hating things and dissing on people who care like your the writers of south park and people should have honestly outgrown it by now. But what if it really, really sucks? Would that still be a bad faith criticism?
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Jun 30, 2020 14:46
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W.T. Fits posted:If you don't care about being spoiled on it, the author's new name is listed in the wikipedia article for Real Life Comics. Beautiful. Thanks.
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Jun 30, 2020 14:52
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:Love to cry about bad faith arguments after flopping down my stance of "Everyone that criticizes this is only doing it cause it's cool to dislike it" To be fair though it is extremely cool to dislike a comic that has been stagnant artistically and story-wise for years.
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Jun 30, 2020 15:20
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I remember reading Megatokyo when I was in High School for a while and generally liking it, but then eventually falling off of it since it kind of completely lost control of its plot and I couldn't follow what was going on very ell or why I should care about half of it, especially since it decided to abandon most of the comedy aspect in favor of the plot. I think I also remember it updating pretty slowly, which almost certainly wouldn't help matters. Might try re-reading it at some point and judge how my taste was when I was a teenager.
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Jun 30, 2020 15:39
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Who What Now posted:To be fair though it is extremely cool to dislike a comic that has been stagnant artistically and story-wise for years. So, it’d be like a Twinkie of a webcomic? Empty calories that are familiar and slightly comforting?
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Jun 30, 2020 15:52
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oobey posted:Beautiful. Thanks. She's also posted it on her Twitter, the @ of which I forget but can probably be found via the RLC Twitter account. I legit haven't thought of the comic since, like, 2012 or so? After some hiatus. But I saw the tweet going around, and I'm very familiar with Kat (the tweet quoted in the comic) and very proud of her and what she's done. And being incredibly vocal and just an all around rad young lady.
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Jun 30, 2020 16:11
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Manuel Calavera posted:Speaking of old comics, anyone else remember Real Life Comics? It came up across my twitter feed yesterday and there are some changes going on which are, unexpected, but I am here for. Man I haven't thought about RLC but good on them. I don't know what any of the proper terms are but I'm glad to see they're taking steps towards being who they are
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Jun 30, 2020 16:31
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Does the one guy in megatokyo still speak l337AnoHito posted:I remember reading Megatokyo when I was in High School for a while and generally liking it, but then eventually falling off of it since it kind of completely lost control of its plot and I couldn't follow what was going on very ell or why I should care about half of it, especially since it decided to abandon most of the comedy aspect in favor of the plot. I think I also remember it updating pretty slowly, which almost certainly wouldn't help matters. I thought about doing this with Bob And George and then instead decided it was better not to know
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Jun 30, 2020 17:25
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Hey, Sluggy Freelance is still around.
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Jun 30, 2020 17:46
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Manuel Calavera posted:She's also posted it on her Twitter, the @ of which I forget but can probably be found via the RLC Twitter account. I legit haven't thought of the comic since, like, 2012 or so? After some hiatus. But I saw the tweet going around, and I'm very familiar with Kat (the tweet quoted in the comic) and very proud of her and what she's done. And being incredibly vocal and just an all around rad young lady. Got ya covered  https://twitter.com/maegodhavemercy/status/1277497716440887297
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Jun 30, 2020 17:59
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Gross they like Pepsi.
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i have no idea what real life comics is about but i'm sold on following this plotline instantly
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Jun 30, 2020 18:45
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This is really really nice and I otherwise would never have known, thank you OotS thread.
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Jun 30, 2020 18:47
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Um, holy loving poo poo. Real Life was my literal intro to webcomics back at like 17 years old or whatever. I remember dropping it pretty early on, something to do with thinking the author’s getting wound up about the Grey Davis recall was off putting, but I had absolutely no idea it was still going on, let alone what sort of journey they were going through. I think I’m gonna have to dig into the archives a bit, but thanks for sharing, that’s super cool and I’m thrilled for her.
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Len posted:Gross they like Pepsi. She's liked Pepsi since the start of the comic. Like it's been a Thing. Coke and Pepsi are just soda and don't care about your brand loyalty. Also yeah these tweets have got me back following RLC.
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Jun 30, 2020 19:21
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Wolfsheim posted:Does the one guy in megatokyo still speak l337 What does your heart tell j00?
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Jun 30, 2020 19:54
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Manuel Calavera posted:She's liked Pepsi since the start of the comic. Like it's been a Thing. Coke and Pepsi are just soda and don't care about your brand loyalty. I was making a joke, I haven't read RLC in over ten years and really only remember Ultima Online and I think at one point she gave her friends mechs? But Pepsi is gross 
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Wow. I absolutely had no idea that this month would give me a reason to care about Real Life Comics for the first time in fifteen years. Well, happy pride month, Mae!
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Jun 30, 2020 21:01
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Len posted:But Pepsi is gross The normal versions of both drinks are good, but diet Coke is vile whereas diet Pepsi is fine
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Jun 30, 2020 21:15
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That is very cool for Mae! Question, is El Goonish Shiv considered a comic that explores transgenderism? From what I remember it seems like it, but it played so fast and loose with the powers its main characters had I'm unsure if it was a serious look into the subject or the author's version of his character's super powers.
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Jun 30, 2020 23:05
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trucutru posted:What does your heart tell j00? Is there a reason why you've only stopped posting in the stars citizens thread to post in this thread, to only talk poo poo about a different webcomic than the one this thread is ostensibly about?
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GimmickMan posted:i have no idea what real life comics is about but i'm sold on following this plotline instantly It's been ... weird-as-gently caress. She* started back in 99 with "let's put my friends in a comic" and over something like 15 years of actual activity since, it's been quirky, geeky, charming, occasionally laugh-out-loud funny, quotable, self-indulgent (that's part of the charm), ref-heavy (so is that, although I'm glad she toned it down a little after the first few years.) and all round decent content. Not great, not epic, but never really bad. (*: Is it correct to 'backdate' her new pronouns and name? I notice someone's already been at the wiki and tvtropes pages with a find/replace ... )
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sfwarlock posted:(*: Is it correct to 'backdate' her new pronouns and name? I notice someone's already been at the wiki and tvtropes pages with a find/replace ... ) Yes.
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Donkringel posted:Question, is El Goonish Shiv considered a comic that explores transgenderism? From what I remember it seems like it, but it played so fast and loose with the powers its main characters had I'm unsure if it was a serious look into the subject or the author's version of his character's super powers. It started as the latter and gradually moved toward the former. There's still a lot of nonsense about magic and aliens and and stuff, so it can be largely seen as wish fulfillment that the regular trans characters that were introduced (regular as in, they're trans and don't have magic powers to change their bodies accordingly) have been given magic powers to change their bodies accordingly pretty quickly after their introduction. Several of the main characters have been canonically established as genderfluid. sfwarlock posted:(*: Is it correct to 'backdate' her new pronouns and name? I notice someone's already been at the wiki and tvtropes pages with a find/replace ... ) It's what's done generally, yes.
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Donkringel posted:That is very cool for Mae! Read this strip. https://www.egscomics.com/comic/2014-07-01
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