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Jaeluni Asjil posted:I used to live in East Finchley (Fortis Green) back in Maggie Thatcher's days. It was fun being in the Labour Party back then. (It was a hot bed of sexual liaisons). We put some idiot called Lawrence Spiegel up against Maggie. Contemporaries were Frances Crook (of Howard League for Penal Reform fame), Rudi Vis & Jacqui Suffling (before they married). Poseidon is on the High Road, about 2 mins walk up from where you turn right on to Fortis Green. It's changed a Hell of a lot in the ~5yrs I've been here. Madden's Bar is still there, if that was a thing when you were here. Although they're trying to sell it I think. ed: The Windsor Castle is still there, as is the Labour HQ. Cheapest Pub by far so I hope Lockdown doesn't kill it.
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bessantj posted:I liked the one he did of the lib dem bird landing in the tory tree. Oh him! I was actually thinking of DeepHurting  But i liked Azza's cartoons too
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goddamnedtwisto posted:I thought it wasn't actually any more effective than the steroid that the NHS trial found? Either way healthcare patents suck and should be illegal. JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Oh him! I was actually thinking of DeepHurting Me too. They were entertaining and occasionally pretty insightful and cutting. Eh, what can you do.
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StarkingBarfish posted:Yeah sorry, I know you weren't meaning that at all it was just too grim not to mention. Corbyn et al's attempts to 'handle' the issue were from the right place imo- it's clear from the lab AS report that any good faith work they put into tackling AS was headed off by the neolibs. Being firmer at calling out the bullshit would have been nice but I can't see it getting them very far without also defeating the attempts of the wreckers within. Yeah, agreed. He really needed to be far more ruthless with purging the internal party machine than he was, bad headlines be damned.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:I thought it wasn't actually any more effective than the steroid that the NHS trial found? Different things. This is the antiviral that cuts the recovery time of non-icu infections.
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Goldskull posted:Poseidon is on the High Road, about 2 mins walk up from where you turn right on to Fortis Green. It's changed a Hell of a lot in the ~5yrs I've been here. Madden's Bar is still there, if that was a thing when you were here. Although they're trying to sell it I think. Lol, another place where my wife worked in the past.. (Maddens that is. It’s a shithole with an owner massively on the take. Avoid!) Personally I think the best bar in Finchley is the Bohemia brewpub in North Finch, If only because it was taken over by an anarchist collective for a while a few years back. Great food and some really good beers.
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Camrath posted:Lol, another place where my wife worked in the past.. (Maddens that is. It’s a shithole with an owner massively on the take. Avoid!) The Stag isn't bad, albeit lacking for barstaff that actually notice customers instead of endlessly walking out of the bar to do nothing in particular. I don't mind Maddens, not been in there a while. I avoid Gertie Brownes like the plague, & the beer in the White Lion is shite. Good mate of mine was head brewer at the Bohemia until last year. It's alright, I guess London Brewing Co. took it over from the anarchists then. I have issues giving any money to LBCo. from a design job I was doing for them about 5 years back, because one of the directors is a massive jerk who at the time was filled with just divorced energy. He got bought out though, and now has the Arnos Arms by well, Arnos Grove. And no matter how hard he re-decorates that place will never not look like an 80s Harvester pub full of families on their way somewhere.
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Goldskull posted:Poseidon is on the High Road, about 2 mins walk up from where you turn right on to Fortis Green. It's changed a Hell of a lot in the ~5yrs I've been here. Madden's Bar is still there, if that was a thing when you were here. Although they're trying to sell it I think. Don't remember Madden's at all. There was a pub just a bit north of Fortis Green (opposite side of the road). I just remembered, Lawrence Spiegel lead a chant of 'fascist scum' at the 1987 count. Maggie Thatcher beat him in 1983. He got in a bit of trouble with the local Labour party because he made a leaflet specially for the Jewish electorate (he was Jewish) without any consultation and leafleted them separately. I don't recall what was in the leaflet or if it was necessarily bad - it was the fact it was done with no consultation that got him in trouble. https://www.margaretthatcher.org/document/106888
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Guavanaut posted:So to get creative you'd use things that you knew were distinct and a paperback press using pulp paper could handle, so you'd get things like: it's very  :ukchipshop:but yeah that's way better in some ways, but it also might be hard to see for some people! So like you'd go for careful choices about which areas are adjacent, avoid small detail, use colours as well... a lot of thought can go into this stuff and most people won't notice (including me) I don't think this will really demonstrate what Owl was talking about, but I think it's interesting at least. So when you have a normal RGB image, there are three channels, one for each colour, and they basically say how much red each pixel in the image gets, how much green etc. You can look at them as a black and white image where black is no red, and white is all the red. By tinting them and merging them all together you get the full colour image But you can represent that in other ways too, and one of them is Lab colour. I'm not going to get deep into colour science here or anything, but broadly the human visual system is based on detecting overall light intensity (light vs dark), and sensitivity to red, green and blue light  like they're not centred *exactly* on red green and blue, but that gives your brain enough info to tell 'where' the colour is on the spectrum. If the red cone is detecting 50% intensity (halfway up), it's either 610nm or 510nm, on one side of the peak or the other. And you can tell which side by looking at how much the green cone is registering - if it's nothing much, then it must be 610nm and your brain goes "orange!" If the green is wilding, then it must be 510nm which is more of a cyan So your brain relies on this opponency between red and green to work out where the colour is on the spectrum, what wavelength is actually is. And as you might have guessed, if your red or green receptors don't work too well... that's not gonna work out, your brain doesn't have the info to differentiate, so two different wavelengths both generate the same response. If your green receptors always say zero, 50% red will look the same whether it's orange or cyan anyhoo Lab colour is based on that opponency - you have a light/dark channel (lightness), the a channel is red/green (white is full red, black is full green, can't be both right) and the b channel is blue/yellow. So it represents how braines perceive colours when all the rods and cones work well. Here's some graf which has a lot of colours and no outlines  L is top right, a is bottom left and b on the right. You can see how the lightness channel is totally readable, our eyes are really sensitive to brightness levels so we get really good contrast, and that's where all the real detail is. You don't need the colour at all. The contrast in the colour channels, on the other hand, is shite - there are places with different colours in the original where you can't really see any difference, or it's really hard to tell where one ends and the other begins. Usually if you look at the other colour channel you get more info, because sometimes there's not much b/y difference but there's a fair amount of r/g. Unless you can't see r/g of course... in which case imagine it's a flat grey, no information at all not really anything to do with anything, but I thought it might be interesting especially since a bunch of people are realising this is a thing they have!
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baka kaba posted:it's very I can't remember the name of the material and it's on the tip of my tongue and annoying me, but it came on sheets of cellulose with a recurring printers' pattern of dots or lines or letters, and would be cut to shape by hand with a scalpel and overlaid on the line drawing to make the image, so that must have been a loving pain to do multiple times, although I guess better than the earlier method of doing it by hand. I also remember some African cartoonists using the same material to represent skin melanation in an abstract manner without falling into the UK cartoonist trap of "being a loving racist" (hi Mac) so it has other historical significance. Lab colour post is cool, similar to how they made colour TV that still worked on a monochrome set before digital.
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yeah black and white printing is like forced accessibility - nobody can see colour because we can't print it so we gotta come up with something else! Which is kinda nice because then the effort will definitely be put in I think I know the stuff you mean, but I might be confusing it with something else you can use to do an art. That's cool about the cartoons though, especially the actual work involved instead of getting a black marker out One Lab thing you might enjoy is that because it separates colour from lightness, you can have an infinitely dark, vivid yellow  these are the colours the government DON'T WANT YOU TO SEE
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I can see some moving lines so I assume this is doing the wavering colour thing but as I can't see any of the colours changing I have to trust it looks weird to other people 
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Okay, because of the ongoing forums thing with the transferring of SA LLC to Jeffrey of YOSPOS, not yet concluded, and secondarily Leicester (but not Leics) entering some second lockdown poo poo, and thirdly the end of 500 page Brexit era monthly threads, this is now a Summer thread  We'll see how that goes as NEC election bullshit happens. baka kaba posted:That's cool about the cartoons though, especially the actual work involved instead of getting a black marker out  baka kaba posted:One Lab thing you might enjoy is that because it separates colour from lightness, you can have an infinitely dark, vivid yellow 
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^^^ I was thinking of a ren and stimpy episode with some TV guy in a tartan suit that was like a hole in spacetimeThomasPaine posted:Yeah, agreed. He really needed to be far more ruthless with purging the internal party machine than he was, bad headlines be damned. I feel like there were two ways it could have gone - either purge and :simpsonsussr: or make it a member-driven, leftist surge that gradually and democratically shifted the party leftwards, which was obviously what he was going for. But to make that happen, you need to make sure that leftist base is energised, and that you have some kind of succession plan - not necessarily one anointed person, but at least a vibrant group of figures ready to step up and continue the fight Which is all the more important if you think you could lose, because people need to come back from that. And RLB is great but she never felt like her heart was really in it, the leadership campaign was really flat (from all of them) and I think that's why so many people just didn't bother voting. That apathy is what carried Starmer to victory in the end, it wasn't a huge shift in support or a deluge of entryists boosting his numbers
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There were also a lot of traumatised lefties who voted Starmer (or Nandy) because they wanted a quiet life in the media and an end to the infighting. The left ultimately didn't do enough to get them on board with a long term plan
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OwlFancier posted:I can see some moving lines so I assume this is doing the wavering colour thing but as I can't see any of the colours changing I have to trust it looks weird to other people I can see them wibbling a little, it's mostly within the different bands (or that's where it's most noticeable) and not the edges so much. I wouldn't say they're changing exactly though I wonder if people who have more trouble seeing the colour are more susceptible to noise - like if some cones don't register but others do very slightly, maybe that variation is enough to be visible where it would be lost to people with full colour vision who are getting a lot more info. Like how you can kinda see subtle noise in the dark, it's not just pure black (well not for me anyway)
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Something... something's wrong. Something's wrong with the UKMT. Why has the name changed? SUMMER? Where's the new thread Guava what have you done, you fool, you'll doom us all!
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Colour blindness I believe does generally give you slightly better vision of shades because you get used to focusing on that more. I don't think it's a physical adaptation as much as a learned one. I can't see any colour changes but I can see the edges of the sections movng around because of the gif compression. I have a constant faint noise in my vision but I figured everyone had that.
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Guavanaut posted:I can't remember the name of the material and it's on the tip of my tongue and annoying me, but it came on sheets of cellulose with a recurring printers' pattern of dots or lines or letters, and would be cut to shape by hand with a scalpel and overlaid on the line drawing to make the image, so that must have been a loving pain to do multiple times, although I guess better than the earlier method of doing it by hand. I think that's Letraset Screentone https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Screentone
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Someone posted on twitter that 300k have left Labour. No indications of how they know this. I'll have to see if I can catch one of the comrades down the allotments in the next few days (assuming he's still in the party! I tell you if they've lost him, they've lost a LOT of shoe rubber pounding the streets, doing the street stalls and so on - not that there have been any stalls for a while - and see if he can enlighten me.)
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Unkempt posted:I think that's Letraset Screentone Ms Adequate posted:Guava what have you done, you fool, you'll doom us all!
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Ms Adequate posted:Something... something's wrong. Something's wrong with the UKMT. The concept of months is a filthy European invention, we must abandon our "roman" calendars and create a new one based on true british heroes. welcome to the 1st of Coulson
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Someone posted on twitter that 300k have left Labour. No indications of how they know this. It would be hilarious to go from the largest party in Europe to Big Lib Dems
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Gatts posted:So how did that whole Brexit thing go? It's going great for at least one family living in France (lengthy thread): https://twitter.com/archer_rs/status/1277529054829318150?s=20
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GreyjoyBastard posted:It's going great for at least one family living in France (lengthy thread): Lengthy and very real thread
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GreyjoyBastard posted:It's going great for at least one family living in France (lengthy thread): Awesome. Awesome to the max. But if true.
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Gatts posted:So how did that whole Brexit thing go? Kinda surprised there isn't more chatter . . . well, anywhere . . . about the extension deadline being missed.
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They've taken every opportunity to say they wouldn't extend. The most likely outcome is no deal, barring some miraculous last minute thing the EU is willing to draw up. At this point it seems unlikely that the UK will even bother to negotiate anything of its own volition.
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Kreeblah posted:Kinda surprised there isn't more chatter . . . well, anywhere . . . about the extension deadline being missed. UK formally told EU they wouldn't be asking for an extension a couple of weeks ago.
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OwlFancier posted:Not sure I would necessarily suggest that assuming china did one more kind of atrocity on flimsy evidence is particularly indicative of being directionless. IIRC, the report is good, well-sourced and substantive for the most part, using public data and verified documents from the Chinese bureaucracy itself. It's just that the dude making it is a loving weirdo.
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OwlFancier posted:I'm definitely not sure that "the UK should not be dealing with Chinese surveillance companies because *China is a genocidal hellhole*" is really a bad foreign policy take ah, i get it now. good day to you.
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