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I mean the heraldic eagle is used in a lot of stuff, it's definitely nationalist but idk if I'd say it's nazi appropriation.
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Jul 1, 2020 18:26
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The people running Trump's branding are very good about maintaining plausible deniability for any specific thing that could be Nazi-related, but overall, it's pretty clear that these aren't coincidences.
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Jul 1, 2020 18:32
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Between brexit, british tourists/expats, and bojo I really want to thank the UK for making us yanks look a little less bad. Brits living in Spain while enthusiastically voting "leave" will never not cheer me up.
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Jul 1, 2020 18:39
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PetraCore posted:I mean the heraldic eagle is used in a lot of stuff, it's definitely nationalist but idk if I'd say it's nazi appropriation. It's not a style that I can find commonly used in this orientation in the US. It looks definitively different than any other US seal bearing the eagle.
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Jul 1, 2020 18:40
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PetraCore posted:I mean the heraldic eagle is used in a lot of stuff, it's definitely nationalist but idk if I'd say it's nazi appropriation. The Ferret King posted:It's not a style that I can find commonly used in this orientation in the US. Also America First was literally the slogan of American Nazis in the 1930s
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Jul 1, 2020 18:41
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captainOrbital posted:D'souza, Tim Pool, Paul J Watson, and IMC. EL BROMANCE posted:Imagine how stupid someone would have to be to tweet alongside Bill Mitchell and be considered the idiot in the conversation. HOW DID I FORGET ABOUT BILL MITCHELL WHY DID I HAVE TO REMEMBER
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Jul 1, 2020 18:42
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Between brexit, british tourists/expats, and bojo I really want to thank the UK for making us yanks look a little less bad. It's the equivalent of the people who voted for Trump based on his "deport illegal immigrants" promise while being married to illegal immigrants. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHJbSvidohg
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Jul 1, 2020 18:50
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captainOrbital posted:HOW DID I FORGET ABOUT BILL MITCHELL Swap him in for D'Souza. I think Dinesh knows his statements aren't indicative reality, he's just a hateful motherfucker.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Between brexit, british tourists/expats, and bojo I really want to thank the UK for making us yanks look a little less bad. There's a generation of people who've never suffered a significant consequence to any of their actions and who's worst tribulation was when the bins weren't collected for a couple of weeks, a memory that has deeply scarred them and drives much of their political leanings. Bad things just don't happen to them, you see the same thing with all the ridiculous over the top wailing with covid about having to wear masks or not see their grandkids for a few weeks (while all the actually old people dying by their thousands is brushed under the carpet). This is the worst thing they can imagine ever happening or it will be until Brexit and then climate change really start to bite. Algol Star has a new favorite as of 20:30 on Jul 1, 2020 |
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Jul 1, 2020 20:27
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The Ferret King posted:It's not a style that I can find commonly used in this orientation in the US.  It's not that I don't think anyone working merchandising for Trump isn't a Nazi. It's that I think they're too lazy for anything they touch to not be wholesale stolen from what's immediately around them.
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Jul 1, 2020 20:28
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there wolf posted:
You'll notice basically all US military symbols have the eagle facing left. There is a famous military that has it facing right but I can't remember which.
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Jul 1, 2020 20:37
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It would be ridiculous to accuse the United States Marine Corps of being Nazis. Ridiculous.
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Jul 1, 2020 20:43
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Algol Star posted:There's a generation of people who've never suffered a significant consequence to any of their actions and who's worst tribulation was when the bins weren't collected for a couple of weeks, a memory that has deeply scarred them and drives much of their political leanings. The old woman who called into the radio and took about four minutes to go from "it's all very overblown" to "I literally would rather die than not go to the beach" would fit well ITT
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Jul 1, 2020 20:55
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Push El Burrito posted:You'll notice basically all US military symbols have the eagle facing left. There is a famous military that has it facing right but I can't remember which. IIRC that’s only since Truman. If you go back earlier you can find rightward facing eagles I think.
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Jul 1, 2020 20:58
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christmas boots posted:IIRC that’s only since Truman. If you go back earlier you can find rightward facing eagles I think. Weird. Wonder what changed right around then.
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Jul 1, 2020 20:59
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Jul 1, 2020 21:01
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OwlFancier posted:The old woman who called into the radio and took about four minutes to go from "it's all very overblown" to "I literally would rather die than not go to the beach" would fit well ITT so dramatic, it makes me want to set myself on fire
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Jul 1, 2020 21:02
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I always find the eagle holding the bundle of arrows a bit... iffy. Liiittle bit close to a fasces there.
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Jul 1, 2020 21:04
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OwlFancier posted:I always find the eagle holding the bundle of arrows a bit... iffy. Liiittle bit close to a fasces there. I got some bad news about the Lincoln memorial and the dime
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Jul 1, 2020 21:05
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I have bad news about the Lincoln Memorial e: Oh for gently caress's sake
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Jul 1, 2020 21:07
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Huh, I never knew that. What an odd symbol to associate with him. I guess at the time it's presumably the idea of it being the symbol of statesmanship, and imposing the law on secessionists and all that. I guess 1920 is a little bit early for the more recent connotation.
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Jul 1, 2020 21:08
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traditionally it was tribunes of the plebs who carried fasces since they were sacrosanct within the city
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Jul 1, 2020 21:09
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Push El Burrito posted:Weird. Wonder what changed right around then. The rationale was that they wanted the eagle to be facing towards peace or something like that. Could be because of the Nazis, could have been some performative Cold War poo poo to try and make us seem more peaceful than the commies. I dunno. This was around the same time we awkwardly shoved Under God into the pledge to own the left
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Jul 1, 2020 21:09
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there wolf posted:
It's really easy for me to see that as a distinctly different design. I guess it depends on where one places their charitable interpretation.
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Jul 1, 2020 21:15
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The actual fasces doesn't pop up much in American-style fascism. They usually just skip straight to Nazi poo poo or being way into Norse symbols and whatnot.
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Jul 1, 2020 21:16
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The Ferret King posted:It's really easy for me to see that as a distinctly different design. I guess it depends on where one places their charitable interpretation. Although “it’s not just a symbol for fascists, the marines use it” is kind of a lol
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Jul 1, 2020 21:18
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OwlFancier posted:Huh, I never knew that. What an odd symbol to associate with him. The fasces is an ancient symbol of non-royal authority taken from the Roman Republic. The US used it in various forms before the fascist movement even existed.
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Jul 1, 2020 21:23
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Algol Star posted:There's a generation of people who've never suffered a significant consequence to any of their actions and who's worst tribulation was when the bins weren't collected for a couple of weeks, a memory that has deeply scarred them and drives much of their political leanings. This becomes more and more obvious every day as the pandemic, Brexit and economic crisis grinds on and seemingly the entire population aged over 45 just thinks any negative impacts don't exist or can be solved by "optimism  "...until an impact gets to them at which point they flip out.I remember reading somewhere that the reason young kids throw tantrums over seemingly petty stuff is because they lack both the life experience and the introspective ability to see that it isn't a big deal. When you're four accidentally dropping your ice cream at the beach is quite literally one of the worst things that has ever happened to you so you react accordingly. That might be pop-psych  bullshit, but it really seems to explain so much about a lot of people just dismissing even the possibility of having difficulty using their house in France if they vote to leave the EU or getting all fraught when they have to wait a few minutes to be let into a shop.
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Jul 1, 2020 21:26
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Jul 1, 2020 21:36
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Somebody hasn't conducted the famous scientific experiment "the dutch oven"
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Jul 1, 2020 21:40
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OwlFancier posted:I always find the eagle holding the bundle of arrows a bit... iffy. Liiittle bit close to a fasces there. 
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Jul 1, 2020 21:45
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And yet you wear pants. Curious!
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Jul 1, 2020 21:48
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The Ferret King posted:It's really easy for me to see that as a distinctly different design. I guess it depends on where one places their charitable interpretation. Not in the posing of the eagle over the globe which is how it resembles the nazi symbol it was being compared to. For me Occam's razor favors whatever answer meant the least work for Trump's campaign, and that emblem is on the hat of every dress marine that serves Trump (in gold.) I think the marines and the US's own relationship to fascist iconography is a better explanation than the idea that someone was trying to covertly copy an overt nazi icon when designing the shirt.
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Jul 1, 2020 22:06
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Tear down all Lincoln statues imo
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https://mobile.twitter.com/ScottAdamsSays/status/1278316325044056064 I loving wish.
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Jul 1, 2020 23:13
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Well, he's right a lot of republicans will be dead within a year if Biden wins. Or if Trump wins. Because they're a party of olds in denial about a deadly pandemic.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Well, he's right a lot of republicans will be dead within a year if Biden wins. Or if Trump wins. Because they're a party of olds in denial about a deadly pandemic. If only the pandemic hit last year.
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