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Coldbird posted:Some interesting stuff in there. I don't really know Necrons well enough to know what stands out on that side, so I'm mostly looking at the Marine sheets. Where is all this from?
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I'd be really happy if the rules reflected more heavily that this is a hobby but I also don't want to hobble people that just want to play with a disadvantage. We have house rules for this as a tie breaker at my club, but you've got everyone's buy in so when a game is drawn the fancier looking army wins.
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Jul 2, 2020 05:14
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Jul 2, 2020 05:47
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Coldbird posted:That's a good thing for the game IMO, and I hope it's part of a larger trend away from 3++ saves. 40k is dead to me the moment i can't taunt my opponent with a series of lucky Zoanthrope saves.
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Ehh, if it’s a general move away from 3++ it makes a lot of things which were already not very good decidedly bad. Zoantropes being one of them. Anyway, I really dislike the new core desperate breakout stratagem. Imo it will only be used for dumb bullshit shenanigans with points and/or with for blocking charges/consolidation/pile-ins/screening/etc. E: I don’t see it adding anything to the game other than dumb “gotcha!”s and spending time measuring and arguing over whether the unit can clear the other unit and therefore have more models within the objective range or manage to block a charge next round or whatever. EE: vvv I’m sure it is, but that will definitely not be it’s main use Revelation 2-13 fucked around with this message at 09:07 on Jul 2, 2020 |
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Revelation 2-13 posted:Ehh, if it’s a general move away from 3++ it makes a lot of things which were already not very good decidedly bad. Zoantropes being one of them. Isn't it just to stop dumb tri-point your single model, now you can't shoot my massive unit stuff?
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Harkano posted:Isn't it just to stop dumb tri-point your single model, now you can't shoot my massive unit stuff? Yeah GW don't like 'gamey' situations like that, or forcing flyers to crash because too many units are nearby. I kinda like the new strat because I think it still forces a penalty for getting caught out. If I wrap something with hormaguants and my opponent is so desperate to take them out that they spend 2CP, that's 2CP they're not spending on other strats to kill me.
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*Extremely Posh English voice*".....and here we are again at that most noble of ancient ceremonies. The Changing of the Edition. And as the sun sets on 8th edition the flag is lowered and presented to the waiting Assault Terminators as they go into a well-earned retirement...and oh yes! A nod of respect there from the watching Bladeguard Veterans ready to take up ther roll. And who's this coming the other way out of the box! Why it's Plasma Cannon Devastators, we haven't seen these fellows for a while. Look at them blink at the unaccustomed light......"
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Lizard Combatant posted:Isn't it just a final tie breaker? There's no mention of tie-breaking, however the scans cut off the section saying the victor has the option to sweep all the unpainted models in his opponent's army to the floor and jump up and down on them until they are suitably chastised.
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JBP posted:I'd be really happy if the rules reflected more heavily that this is a hobby but I also don't want to hobble people that just want to play with a disadvantage. We have house rules for this as a tie breaker at my club, but you've got everyone's buy in so when a game is drawn the fancier looking army wins. I like this a lot more I think, but then the maximum VP you can score in a game is 90, and so much stuff gives you a couple of VP here and there in the game, so maybe in practice it is almost impossible to ever have an actual tie, because the score is always like 68-62 or something, so this is designed more like "in a close game, if you've not got 3 colours on all your models, you lose". It's just a really strange rule like I said because it will largely be irrelevant because you're playing in an event that requires battle ready standard, an event that will likely ignore it as its not a requirement, or a casual game that means even if that technically allows you to win, your friend go easily go go "OK, you technically won, but we both know I beat you". Lots of tournaments rewarded well painted armies etc anyway, and things that discourage unpainted armies is generally a good thing. Just a bit strange and unexpected. Who knows though, maybe people won't ignore it an it will be an end of hoarders of grey unpainted armies. xtothez posted:Yeah GW don't like 'gamey' situations like that, or forcing flyers to crash because too many units are nearby. Plus the 1 in 6 chance for every model that they die. If you trap a tank or a unit of terminators or something you not only cost them the CP but possibly do some real damage as they escape. Kitchner fucked around with this message at 13:26 on Jul 2, 2020 |
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IPA Regulations posted:There's no mention of tie-breaking, however the scans cut off the section saying the victor has the option to sweep all the unpainted models in his opponent's army to the floor and jump up and down on them until they are suitably chastised. Seems harsh. Just playing for keeps seems fair to me. You can always win them back that way.
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/07/02/free-core-rules-new-models-sighted/ So GW did the wise thing and dropped the 9th ed Core rules early thanks to the leak. And a better look at the Hammerfall bunker and the Convergence of Dominion for Necrons.
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Cooked Auto posted:https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/07/02/free-core-rules-new-models-sighted/ Can anyone imagine the GW of 5+ years ago doing something like this? Really cool.
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xtothez posted:Can anyone imagine the GW of 5+ years ago doing something like this? Really cool. Did they have a computer in the office then?
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JBP posted:Did they have a computer in the office then? Pretty sure it was exclusively used for sending cease & desists back then
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I'm  by the new Intercessors starting to look properly grimdark while the new vehicles are looking more and more tactilol?I mean, there doesn't appear to be even a single cogwheel anywhere on the Hammerfall: how are they expecting the machine spirits to be properly appeased? E: Especially since they're facing the incarnate sin of the silica animus?
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Jul 2, 2020 16:17
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Schadenboner posted:I'm All of the ornate filigree and skulls were sheared off during reentry.
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Imperial fists faq: every imperial fist detachment get a hammerfall bunker for free. Actually, the faction terrain is kinda silly in aos, so maybe not
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Revelation 2-13 posted:Imperial fists faq: every imperial fist detachment get a hammerfall bunker for free. If it's actually decent, and with fortification networks only being 1CP, and free if it's faction specific terrain, then Imperial Fists might actually have buildings to shoot at for the first time ever.
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ThoraxTheImpaler posted:If it's actually decent, and with fortification networks only being 1CP, and free if it's faction specific terrain, then Imperial Fists might actually have buildings to shoot at for the first time ever. Given this, I may actually have an excuse to use the droneport and tidewall I've been painting up as background scenery
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Schadenboner posted:I'm Buy that pack with 300 skulls and just start gluing them too all the fortifications and new vehicles
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Hot Karl Marx posted:Buy that pack with 300 skulls and just start gluing them too all the fortifications and new vehicles Pricing is out apparently, since my FLGS posted it on their Facebook feed. PRICES OF LAUNCH DAY PRODUCTS WARHAMMER 40000: INDOMITUS Core Game $199.00 WARHAMMER 40000: CORE BOOK (Included in the Indomitus Core Game) Book (HB) $65.00 WH40K: GRAND TOURNAMENT 2020 Book (SB) $40.00 WH40K: MISSION PACK: OPEN WAR Cards $18.00 WH40K: CRUSADE PLAYER'S PACK Book (SB) $35.00 40K: BATTLEZONE MANUFACTORUM BATTLEFIELD Card Surface $50.00 BASE: RUNELORD BRASS (12ML) Paint Pot $6.10 LAYER: CANOPTEK ALLOY (12ML) Paint Pot $6.10 SHADE: CRYPTEK ARMOURSHADE (18ML) Paint Pot $7.80 TECHNICAL: TESSERACT GLOW (18ML) Paint Pot $7.80 WH40K BATTLEZONE MANUFACTORUM OBJECTIVES Plastic Box $40.00 WARHAMMER 40000 COMBAT GAUGE Hobby Product $27.00 WARHAMMER 40000 CARRY CASE Accessory $60.00 WARHAMMER 40000: INDOMITUS (HB) HB Novel $27.00
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I wonder if these 9th edition painting rules are a buff to Necrons
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Any news on the new paints aside from price?
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Jul 2, 2020 17:22
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Nothing yet from what I've seen on the WarCom page. No idea why Runelord brass is listed there since it already exists.
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I assume those are the MSRP prices they got right from GW, but I don't really know for sure.
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Funzo posted:I assume those are the MSRP prices they got right from GW, but I don't really know for sure. I just checked the USD price for a pot of nuln oil, and it's $7.80, same as that listed price for Cryptek Armourshade, so, yeah, those are straight-from-GW MSRPs if they're accurate. Annoyingly difficult to find a $200 USD item in the GW online store so I can check its price in CAD! (Woo, new shade paint! I love GW shade paints!)
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$200 puts it pretty firmly at the rumoured £120 price, or under £100 with discount. Cool.
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Cooked Auto posted:https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/07/02/free-core-rules-new-models-sighted/ "Characteristic of ‘-’ can never be modified." Wow I think everyone I've played and including me have always modified those as if they were zero. oof.
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xtothez posted:$200 puts it pretty firmly at the rumoured £120 price, or under £100 with discount. Cool. Now to decide whether to pre-order it from GW, or aim to buy it from an FLGS at discount and risk never getting it because it's a limited box and sells out too fast.... (loving FOMO-based marketing.
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xtothez posted:$200 puts it pretty firmly at the rumoured £120 price, or under £100 with discount. Cool. $200 USD is about £150-160 GBP.
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Kitchner posted:$200 USD is about £150-160 GBP. GW parties like it's 1999 and maintains a 1.6-1.7x exchange rate. It's even worse when you realize the GBP price includes VAT and the USD price is before 8-10% sales tax.
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Kitchner posted:$200 USD is about £150-160 GBP. The dark imperium box was 95 GBP and 160 ameridollars. Approx one quarter more would be around 120 pounds. It's GWs weird back-in-the-day conversions. In weird eurobux it turns back into 120 dollars because of the still somewhat weak pound. If 200 is the correct price, that's pretty reasonable (lol, GW prices reasonable??!?! comparatively reasonable I guess). Models-wise it's about the same as dark imperium, which was already good value, + 1 box for each side for 40 more bux. Pretty good.
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Stephenls posted:Annoyingly difficult to find a $200 USD item in the GW online store so I can check its price in CAD! Industrial Terrain Set 200USD -> 240CAD
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Weird, if it's £120 it's a bargain in my view. When I heard that guess I basically assumed it would be more because from past experience however cheap I hope something will be it always costs a little bit more. So I hoped for £120 which means it will probably be a bit more. £150 I reckon in the UK price.
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Don't remember if it's an explicit policy that GW keeps homeland prices cheaper than the rest of the world, but it seems like it's always been the case. CAD prices are usually garbage, because the US has to be more expensive than the UK, and they make CAD prices more expensive than US to prevent reimportation from Canada. Not as bad as AUD though.
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£120 was the first guess from the Auspex Tactics youtube channel a few weeks ago, I'd be more than happy to snatch it up at that price, been looking for an excuse to collect Necrons again
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Azerban posted:Industrial Terrain Set 200USD -> 240CAD Thank you! On another forum a dude just said his Canadian FLGS announced $239.99 CAD MSRP, so that lines up.
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