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By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


Jay Rust posted:

Posting for the :smug:



C'mon Marty, this is beneath you.

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Ambitious Spider
Feb 13, 2012



Lipstick Apathy

By popular demand posted:

C'mon Marty, this is beneath you.

Eh, he’s probably the consistently best cartoonist here, I’ll give him one that immediately made me hear this:


https://www.audiosparx.com/sa/summary/play.cfm/crumb.1/crumc.0/sound_iid.21976

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

Pants Donkey posted:

Also, you can wash a loving mask. It’s like advocating nudity because clothes get bacteria.

Hello sweetie, wanna look like a fool together? :heysexy:

seiferguy
Jun 9, 2005

FLAWED
INTUITION



Toilet Rascal

By popular demand posted:

C'mon Marty, this is beneath you.

People claiming to be native american because they have a tiny bit of ancestry and swinging their white privilege around while screwing over actual natives is totally a thing.

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


sure, but Marty can and should make better cartoons than:
:v: stupid statement
:smuggo: owned by logic

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
Marty is in no way above a dumb and so goddamn crazy comic either

Technowolf
Nov 4, 2009




InsertPotPun
Apr 16, 2018

Pissy Bitch stan

SneezeOfTheDecade posted:

In episode 3 of "The Munsters", Herman has insomnia, so he goes walking in the park at night. At the same time, an actual thief is attacking late-night parkgoers, and based on his victims' description, the police think Herman is the culprit. They are, however, inept, and it takes the Herman's help to actually catch the thief and rid the park of its criminal element.

So Mike, to answer your question, I'd much rather have Frankenstein's monster patrolling the neighborhood than the loving police, because he gets the drat job done.
*dap*

Kit Walker posted:

If this was true, he could post “Black lives matter, but I have issues with the organization under that banner, namely that xyz” but if he went into more detail he’d probably say some ridiculously racist poo poo, so we get this handwringing instead
"your complaints should be silent" writes the internationally published political cartoonists, "do something quiet and unobtrusive like kneeling"
"also i can't say 'black lives matter' out loud because then even more of my money goes to blacklivesmattercorp to spend on ridiculous bonuses for their ceo"

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Crunch Buttsteak posted:

Most of my white rural family has fallen into the right wing media-driven "Yes I agree that black lives matter, but the movement was founded by.... m-m-m-m-Marxists, so I need to oppose it as a Good American" trap, so I guess that's where I'm coming from with saying that it's a "genuine" belief. It's still a stupid loving belief, but there's a difference between being an ignorant moron and a knowing cryptofascist.

Fishman is part of the right-wing propagandasphere though, he isn't some unplugged working stiff listening to talk radio on his commute to and from a day of drudgery making someone else rich, politics is his fulltime job and it's not like the actual 'art' part takes more than an hour a day, so while I'm sure it's genuine for your family (because of people like Fishman), it's def not genuine coming from him.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Marty Two-Bull's getting poo poo for making a smug cartoon while Fishman is praised because he avoided using a racial slur.

Nick Soapdish
Apr 27, 2008


Alhazred posted:

Marty Two-Bull's getting poo poo for making a smug cartoon while Fishman is praised because he avoided using a racial slur.

Polcom thread truly is a land of contrasts

RoboRodent
Sep 19, 2012

I'd wear a shirt that just said CRIME in big bold letters.

Crunch Buttsteak
Feb 26, 2007

You think reality is a circle of salt around my brain keeping witches out?

VitalSigns posted:

Fishman is part of the right-wing propagandasphere though, he isn't some unplugged working stiff listening to talk radio on his commute to and from a day of drudgery making someone else rich, politics is his fulltime job and it's not like the actual 'art' part takes more than an hour a day, so while I'm sure it's genuine for your family (because of people like Fishman), it's def not genuine coming from him.

Hmm, maybe I am giving him too much benefit of the doubt. It's just jarring to see a Mallard strip that isn't a banal observation in the first panel, and a dinosaur saying a pithy fascist zinger in the second.

VitalSigns
Sep 3, 2011

Crunch Buttsteak posted:

Hmm, maybe I am giving him too much benefit of the doubt. It's just jarring to see a Mallard strip that isn't a banal observation in the first panel, and a dinosaur saying a pithy fascist zinger in the second.

yeah Tinsley is more of the Limbaugh-style "well if Sandra Bland wants free birth control, she should have to gently caress me with the pills I paid for!" rabble rouser, Fishman seems more like the David Brooks-style "look we all agree on a moral level that bad things are bad, but actually doing anything about it is going too far" propagandist.

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

Crunch Buttsteak posted:

Hmm, maybe I am giving him too much benefit of the doubt. It's just jarring to see a Mallard strip that isn't a banal observation in the first panel, and a dinosaur saying a pithy fascist zinger in the second.

This is why I'm saying that he's more like stonetoss, he's sneaking in a more sinister brand of fascism by hiding it among a bunch of relatively uncontroversial or even halfway agreeable takes.

Grondoth
Feb 18, 2011

Alhazred posted:

Marty Two-Bull's getting poo poo for making a smug cartoon while Fishman is praised because he avoided using a racial slur.

The soft bigotry of low expectations

Cloud Potato
Jan 9, 2011

"I'm... happy!"
:britain:

Guardian:

"Steve Bell on Boris Johnson and the Leicester lockdown — Confusion over the level of Covid-19 testing data available to Leicester city council during its recent outbreak in cases intensified as Boris Johnson claimed his government had shared information"

Telegraph:


Matt:


Independent:

After Dave Cleverly.

Times:

Hong Kong: hundreds arrested as security law comes into effect

Evening Standard:


Mail:
PAUL THOMAS on... the coronavirus Christmas panto crisis facing theatres

there wolf
Jan 11, 2015

by Fluffdaddy

Fister Roboto posted:

This is why I'm saying that he's more like stonetoss, he's sneaking in a more sinister brand of fascism by hiding it among a bunch of relatively uncontroversial or even halfway agreeable takes.

Fishman is like Stantis before the latter's brain broke down into mush from trying to cling to a moral center and conservative values at the same time. The only relation he has to Stonetoss is that he's not totally broken as a person and therefor can make cartoons that function as cartoons. Is that dangerous? Well anything that perpetrates the lie that conservatism in this country is anything other than a morally bankrupt death cult is dangerous.

Trying to quantify that against an out and out fascist like Stonetoss seems like complex ethical philosophy question. Who is worse, the guy downplaying how bad the cult is early on, or the guy making it's violence and danger seem cool.

Vib Rib
Jul 23, 2007

God damn this shit is
fuckin' re-dic-a-liss

🍖🍖😛🍖🍖

Alhazred posted:

Marty Two-Bull's getting poo poo for making a smug cartoon while Fishman is praised because he avoided using a racial slur.
Fishman still sucks rear end and he's giving a "reasonable" sounding defense of why you can deny and condemn BLM like they're some radical movement with too many extreme and anti-American ideas, which I'm sure plenty of readers will either adopt next time they try to explain themselves to their kids, or just point to and go "YEAH! EXACTLY! See, I'm not racist!" I know the desire is there to praise him for being better than Tinsley and yes, he is, certainly in how he structures a joke and delivery, but he's still normalizing hate, exclusion, and oppression for the comfortable white residents of the status quo to look down their noses at those uppity minorities. gently caress Tinsley, and gently caress Fishman.

Crunch Buttsteak
Feb 26, 2007

You think reality is a circle of salt around my brain keeping witches out?
My intention wasn't to praise Fishman, it was just an observation of "Huh, he's actually having Mallard say things and present an argument, that's a departure". It's definitely not "Wow, what a breath of fresh air! He might be one of the good ones, guys :)" after he draws a cartoon duck saying that all lives matter.

Zulily Zoetrope
Jun 1, 2011

Muldoon
The whole internet loves Fishman Duck, a lovely duck that tells actual jokes! *5 seconds later* We regret to inform you the duck is racist

Apple Pie Hubbub
Feb 14, 2012

Take that, you greedy jerk!
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ZeeToo
Feb 20, 2008

I'm a kitty!
I'm deeply confused at the argument that masks are going to choke the life out of us.

You'd think people would have noticed that was true in some of the cultures that have regularly put cloth over face for the last several hundred years, including people from the Middle East and cold climes.

Polygynous
Dec 13, 2006
welp
dunking on ramirez aside can someone tell me what is going on here

like was carl reiner famous for his hair or is this just... I don't loving know

Vib Rib
Jul 23, 2007

God damn this shit is
fuckin' re-dic-a-liss

🍖🍖😛🍖🍖

ZeeToo posted:

I'm deeply confused at the argument that masks are going to choke the life out of us.

You'd think people would have noticed that was true in some of the cultures that have regularly put cloth over face for the last several hundred years, including people from the Middle East and cold climes.
Also I'm pretty sure we would have heard about hundreds/thousands of people dropping dead from asphyxia since the pandemic began.

Dirk the Average
Feb 7, 2012

"This may have been a mistake."
I mean, it's a pain in the rear end to exercise in a mask, but walking around is fine. And if you are exercising, you're likely outdoors in an area where you can stay away from people and minimize contact while ensuring good airflow.

there wolf
Jan 11, 2015

by Fluffdaddy

ZeeToo posted:

I'm deeply confused at the argument that masks are going to choke the life out of us.

You'd think people would have noticed that was true in some of the cultures that have regularly put cloth over face for the last several hundred years, including people from the Middle East and cold climes.

That's because you're applying reason instead of acting like a toddler and assuming that what you don't want to do is the worst thing ever.

Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really

ZeeToo posted:

I'm deeply confused at the argument that masks are going to choke the life out of us.

You'd think people would have noticed that was true in some of the cultures that have regularly put cloth over face for the last several hundred years, including people from the Middle East and cold climes.

Obviously the oxygen deprivation caused by that is why they haven't accepted Jayzus/Democracy/Capitalism.

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin

By popular demand posted:

C'mon Marty, this is beneath you.

Isn't this a five year old "a thing happened" cartoon about someone claiming ancestry?

Murdstone
Jun 14, 2005

I'm feeling Jimmy


Polygynous posted:

dunking on ramirez aside can someone tell me what is going on here

like was carl reiner famous for his hair or is this just... I don't loving know
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGEOjxtQtWc

Edit: Background is his character is a TV host that her husband works for and she gave away he was bald on TV. It's a pretty famous Dick Van Dyke Show thing.

Murdstone fucked around with this message at 05:33 on Jul 3, 2020

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

ZeeToo posted:

I'm deeply confused at the argument that masks are going to choke the life out of us.

You'd think people would have noticed that was true in some of the cultures that have regularly put cloth over face for the last several hundred years, including people from the Middle East and cold climes.

Those masks do result in a reduction of oxygen intake, not because oxygen is too big to go through but because it largely blocks airflow (which is the entire point) so you get a pocket of stale air in front of your nose and mouth. It's not comparable to a balaclava or burka or whatever because it's not the same degree of filtration nor the same tight fitting on the face.

Obviously you shouldn't wear a mask 24/7, nor when there are no real reason to wear one. But in a crowded area, especially when not in the open air (such as, inside a shop for example)? Then yeah, wear the loving mask. It's definitely an annoyance but that and washing your hands regularly are how we can reduce the virulence of this disease. The sooner the pandemic is over, the sooner we can forget about the masks and go back to not washing our hands constantly like we have OCD.

Incelshok Na
Jul 2, 2020

by Hand Knit
Donald "Hussein" Trump wants to impose Sharia law by making us all wear burkkkas. I am an American and I believe in Jesus.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

Cat Mattress posted:

Those masks do result in a reduction of oxygen intake, not because oxygen is too big to go through but because it largely blocks airflow (which is the entire point) so you get a pocket of stale air in front of your nose and mouth. It's not comparable to a balaclava or burka or whatever because it's not the same degree of filtration nor the same tight fitting on the face.
I did some heavy uphill cycling the other day while wearing a mask to see what it would be like, and while it was a bit harder, it wasn't impossible. Which means that If you're having significant breathing trouble while walking on flat ground, you have some serious other health problems I think.

Incelshok Na
Jul 2, 2020

by Hand Knit
Fun fact: Birds purposefully recycle air they breathe out since it is more efficient.

It's actually really cool, you can see it in Dino skulls as the oxygen content of the earth was decreasing. They started to have these crazy extended nasal cavities that let them rebreathe air to extract as much oxygen from it as possible.

Those structures are what let birds fly since flying is a massively aerobic activity.

The children's children of mask wearing people will be able to fly on the moon and mars while others will have to merely bounce.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug
Or it's a million degrees and 100% humidity, which I suppose is a real thing for some but not all of the people complaining about masks.

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.

ZeeToo posted:

I'm deeply confused at the argument that masks are going to choke the life out of us.

You'd think people would have noticed that was true in some of the cultures that have regularly put cloth over face for the last several hundred years, including people from the Middle East and cold climes.

The main thing you don't get about 2020 conservatism is that it has become entirely reactive, and the thing it is reacting to is Trump's tweets.

So if Trump tweets that masks are bad then:
1. Evangelicals decide that masks are the mark of the beast
2. White nationalists decide that masks are part of the death of their culture
3. Businesspeople decide that masks will squash retail sales
4. Gun owners believe that mask laws are the camel's snout to having them register their murder weapons
5. Youtube demagogues say it's one more step to the feminizing of America

If Trump tweets something different, then they will think and spout different things. It's not based on principles you can engage. Trump has banana republic levels of support among conservatives. There's no loving middle.

Teriyaki Hairpiece
Dec 29, 2006

I'm nae the voice o' the darkened thistle, but th' darkened thistle cannae bear the sight o' our Bonnie Prince Bernie nae mair.
There's no actual issues anymore there's just pro Trump or anti Trump that's what he's done to the discourse. Evangelical Christians support an adulterer who paid off a porn star at 96%. They don't have principles. gently caress them.

CuwiKhons
Sep 24, 2009

Seven idiots and a bear walk into a dragon's lair.

Samurai Sanders posted:

Or it's a million degrees and 100% humidity, which I suppose is a real thing for some but not all of the people complaining about masks.

I mean it's summer in Florida, where I live, and it's still not hard to shove a mask in your pocket and put it on just before you enter the indoor place full of people.

If you're voluntarily spending a lot of time outdoors in close proximity to other people around these parts, you're either at an amusement park or the beach. And you should be rethinking doing those things at all, mask or not.

Mordaedil
Oct 25, 2007

Oh wow, cool. Good job.
So?
Grimey Drawer
The Fishman cartoon makes a lot more sense if you accept the editor as being in the right.

"Well I don't support all of the things associated with the BLM movement" is the same as not supporting it.

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kaschei
Oct 25, 2005

Incelshok Na posted:

Fun fact: Birds purposefully recycle air they breathe out since it is more efficient.
Birds have a unidirectional respiratory system; air always moves in the same direction through their lungs. When they breathe in, fresh air enters the lung and one air sac, while air previously in the lung enters another air sac. When they exhale both sacs compress, forcing the older air out one sac and out the nose, while pushing recently breathed in air from the other sac into the lungs. The lungs themselves are rigid and the changes in pressure are due to the compression of the sacs.

This all to say: rebreathing would be pointless, they're surrounded by air with more oxygen than what's gone through their lungs - and this is true even if the air O2 concentration decreases. Mammals never fully expel stale air from their lungs and end up "rebreathing," to their detriment. Birds' lungs have fresh air pushed through them near constantly, and that's why they're so efficient at absorbing oxygen.

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