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Kill All Cops
Apr 11, 2007


Pacheco de Chocobo



Hell Gem

Kill All Cops posted:

boomer parents shocked that their kid can be arrested over stickers that were freely available everywhere until a couple days ago

https://www.thestandnews.com/politics/mother-finds-arrest-of-son-with-sticker-of-protest-slogan-unacceptable/

if they make the law apply to acts done retroactively before the law came into effect, i.e. the kid applying the offending sticker, big yikes for all the hk lawyers

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BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

China and Chinese people = good

CCP = Genocidal repressive gently caress knucles.

This won't be argued against by anyone here.

And those who are willfully misrepresenting that by trying to paint people as racists are arseholes. And those who are actively defending the CCp with bullshit claims that there is no genocide, that nobody died in the June 4 incident, and that Hong Kong will be better off when Chinese, (not Hong Kong but Chinese), police are allowed to kick down their door and drag them to a secret jail because their teenage son once said something mean about a middle ranking political functionary and do so with under the protection of the law. The people who say this are, and I choose my words carefully here, loving cunts.

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

very fascinating, the number of uighurs increases in xinjiang at a time where uighurs are basically forced to return home or your family gets put into a concentration camp. could these be related? i guess we'll never know.

Porfiriato
Jan 4, 2016


Jeoh posted:

very fascinating, the number of uighurs increases in xinjiang at a time where uighurs are basically forced to return home or your family gets put into a concentration camp. could these be related? i guess we'll never know.

This chart showing the Jewish population in Germany doubling from 1850-1938 proves that there's no genocide going on here in 1942!!

Porfiriato fucked around with this message at 11:36 on Jul 3, 2020

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
Do not attempt to reason with those who have clearly abandoned reason.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
What do you mean you don't like the Khmer Rouge?

Booty Pageant
Apr 20, 2012
how much is george soros paying for dead cops?? asking for a friend

uninterrupted
Jun 20, 2011

eggyolk posted:

The US equivalent for whats happening in HK is if you were caught with a BLM sign in your window, or anything resembling a clenched fist, and it resulted in you being threatened with jail without trial. And no one will no where the hell you went.



So better than what actually happens, where cops just murder you?

Like you’re probably safer with the HK police than the LAPD.

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
this is not a high bar to be better than the lapd

you need to search pretty far and wide to find worse

Booty Pageant
Apr 20, 2012
just checked whataboutism off the bingo card

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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super cool that cspam darlings are forum invading to poo poo out genocide denial and the mods don't seem to care

uninterrupted
Jun 20, 2011

Booty Pageant posted:

just checked whataboutism off the bingo card

Someone else was saying the US equivalent to what was happening in HK would be better than the actual situation in the US, I was just agreeing.

Also whataboutism was a made up logical fallacy used by the west because they wanted to say other countries were inexcusably bad while being as bad or worse.

Mr. Fix It
Oct 26, 2000

💀ayyy💀


uninterrupted posted:

So better than what actually happens, where cops just murder you?

Like you’re probably safer with the HK police than the LAPD.

large swathes of the US wishing it were a racist ethnostate and the PRC also aspiring to be a racist ethnostate are not mutually exclusive and in fact both true. also, ACAB

Kill All Cops
Apr 11, 2007


Pacheco de Chocobo



Hell Gem

uninterrupted posted:

Someone else was saying the US equivalent to what was happening in HK would be better than the actual situation in the US, I was just agreeing.

Also whataboutism was a made up logical fallacy used by the west because they wanted to say other countries were inexcusably bad while being as bad or worse.

BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!

You guys are getting hosed with and you're kinda playing into it now.

I don't do the ignore people thing, and it's cool to argue with people. But this is just shitposting.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
hello it seems like some stupid poo poo is happening itt

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


Just your usual CSPAM posters declaring their support for genocide, nothing out of the ordinary, really

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Jose posted:

hello it seems like some stupid poo poo is happening itt

Jose can you please explain

A) Why you were in the CSPAM thread posting support for Chinese fascism

B) Why genocide denial only gets you a 24 hour probe (and only for the one guy when multiple posters itt and others are doing it)

C) Why you gave the same 24 hour probe to McGavin for lacking :decorum: in telling said genocide denier to gently caress off

This is not a good look when mods really 'ought to be on their best behavior right now

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001

DreamScythe posted:

Should have nuked C-SPAM when they nuked FYAD. LF got SA in trouble before, its successor is very much going to do the same thing.
C-Spam is only still here because the endless title slap fights and re-regs made money.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Fojar38 posted:

Jose can you please explain

A) Why you were in the CSPAM thread posting support for Chinese fascism

B) Why genocide denial only gets you a 24 hour probe (and only for the one guy when multiple posters itt and others are doing it)

C) Why you gave the same 24 hour probe to McGavin for lacking :decorum: in telling said genocide denier to gently caress off

This is not a good look when mods really 'ought to be on their best behavior right now

A) i posted a tweet with lol attached to it

B) people posting sources questioning stuff like the forced sterilisation when it all comes from one guy at the Victims of Communism think thank are legit reasons

C) there is a longer probation for uninterrupted in the queue

That said all of this is stuff for either the DnD or cspam threads because this is gbs and i'm going to crack down on all of it harder as of this post

edit: so i'm clear by crack down i mean on people coming itt to start political fights

Jose fucked around with this message at 13:39 on Jul 3, 2020

Vesi
Jan 12, 2005

pikachu looking at?
hmm wonder why there's so few legitimate sources from xinjiang :thunk: it's pretty far away maybe noone is just bothering to go there

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Vesi posted:

hmm wonder why there's so few legitimate sources from xinjiang :thunk: it's pretty far away maybe noone is just bothering to go there

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Jose posted:

A) i posted a tweet with lol attached to it

B) people posting sources questioning stuff like the forced sterilisation when it all comes from one guy at the Victims of Communism think thank are legit reasons

C) there is a longer probation for uninterrupted in the queue

That said all of this is stuff for either the DnD or cspam threads because this is gbs and i'm going to crack down on all of it harder as of this post

A) Yes, but the context of the tweet was pro-authoritarian and accusing the protesters of all being state-department props. If you repost a tweet it reflects on you, and if your "lol" was meant to be at the expense of the tweet, that wasn't made clear.

B) You do not seem to understand the allegations or their severity. It's not all coming from one guy, it's coming from the Chinese Bureau of Statistics. There is plenty of evidence aside from that one guy, and that aside, bringing up his religious background in an attempt to smear him despite it having no bearing on the validity of his data is a blatant attempt to discredit the accusations of genocide, including the forced sterilizations. This other evidence included documented evidence from the Chinese government themselves, as well as corroborating testimony from Uigher refugees.

"Just asking questions about the background of one of the researchers" is the same as "just asking questions about chemical supplies in Germany at 1943." We wouldn't allow the latter and we shouldn't allow the former.

C) That's good, but McGavin's probation was still completely unwarranted in light of the rhetoric coming from people invading this thread and gives the impression that telling people denying genocide to gently caress off is something that you risk probation for doing. Intentionally or not, that creates a chilling effect on future criticism of China that ironically is a tactic employed heavily by the Chinese government itself. It should be reduced to a sixer at most, if :decorum: is really that important.

Fojar38 fucked around with this message at 13:52 on Jul 3, 2020

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
YOu can tell them to gently caress off all you want and if they come back report the posts and I'll be starting with 3 day probations. I don't like goons wishing harm on each other though

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

Vesi posted:

hmm wonder why there's so few legitimate sources from xinjiang :thunk: it's pretty far away maybe noone is just bothering to go there

Anyone have the reporter that went there and was basically shuffled around by state handlers to keep him from seeing anything?

Dont Touch ME
Apr 1, 2018

Would be cool if we had a thread ik to hand out sixers every time cspammers come in here to poo poo it up with genocide denial and pro-fascist attitudes.

HugeGrossBurrito
Mar 20, 2018
I think a thread IK is a good idea but it needs to be someone that is knowledgeable and doesnt get into slapfights please PM me or Jose with suggestions.

A4R8
Feb 28, 2020

Fojar38 posted:

Jose can you please explain

A) Why you were in the CSPAM thread posting support for Chinese fascism

B) Why genocide denial only gets you a 24 hour probe (and only for the one guy when multiple posters itt and others are doing it)

C) Why you gave the same 24 hour probe to McGavin for lacking :decorum: in telling said genocide denier to gently caress off

This is not a good look when mods really 'ought to be on their best behavior right now

It’s not fascism; it’s Socialism with Chinese characteristics.

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

DreamScythe posted:

Should have nuked C-SPAM when they nuked FYAD. LF got SA in trouble before, its successor is very much going to do the same thing.

Most of the threads seem okay. The Tesla/Musk mock thread is great. Also, the Trump supporters getting hosed over by Trump thread is purest distilled schadenfreude.

It's just that there are a couple threads where people decide "This thread is my identity now" and poo poo gets stupid. Also, the tankie ghost of Homework Explainer still casts a long shadow in some threads.


Fojar38 posted:

super cool that cspam darlings are forum invading to poo poo out genocide denial and the mods don't seem to care

Casual monsters doing a victory lap so they can show everyone how well they lick boot.

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
make me ik cuz i hate the ccp for not being communist

Warbadger
Jun 17, 2006

Mr. Fix It posted:

large swathes of the US wishing it were a racist ethnostate and the PRC also aspiring to be a racist ethnostate are not mutually exclusive and in fact both true. also, ACAB

China isn't aspiring to be a racist ethnostate anymore, it's already there as far as the PRC is concerned.

Since Xi took power he's been rapidly checking off the fascism boxes from government backed ethno-nationalism and genocide of minorities to building a personality cult and making absurd revanchist territory grabs.

Trump probably admires that part, but he's pretty dumb, lazy, and unpopular so he can't even pull the strings necessary to set himself up as president for life much less make it illegal to say mean things about him.

Warbadger fucked around with this message at 17:22 on Jul 3, 2020

HugeGrossBurrito
Mar 20, 2018
I dont think Grand Fromage is going to want to IK this thread lol

Dont Touch ME
Apr 1, 2018

The hero we needed, but didn't deserve

HugeGrossBurrito
Mar 20, 2018
If this were to happen it would need to be someone that preferably has lived there and wont get offended about opinions they dont agree with

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar
I vote ooohboy.

They've been a consistently interesting poster in this thread.

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

I vote Lambert :sicko:

Haramstufe Rot
Jun 24, 2016

Mods good guys.
I love that we can "ironically" cheer about genocide instigated by billionaire toddlers because they have a red flag in hand.

I especially love the posts that go: "well genocide and re-education camps may not be ideal, but CLEARLY those Muslims deserved it for stirring up trouble", as posted, literally, in this very thread, just a few pages ago.

But don't worry gentlegoons, even though that sentence seems to imply a lust for the death of people that are slightly more brown than geographically accepted - independent of the ground truth of what's happening - it is just a jest! A troll, if you will, brought to you from the good people of CSPAM, spurred on by our angry tirades and replies.

See, dear Mods, it's all good fun. When it's said in so many words that Muslims deserve death for ethnicity-related non conformance, then that's funny. It's a real boon for the cause and good thing you hand out a slap on the hands in form of a few hours of probation.

I am eagerly looking for another ethnic group that's caught on the wrong side of a reddish flag, cause I wanna get in on the action, too! Hindus, maybe? Does China have beef with Pakistan? Who is more red, China or Vietnam? Mods?


Edit: I was inspired by the earlier exchange and it has come to my attention that being against genociding Muslims is apparently a racism against the entirety of Chinese people. I suggest you start handing out probations asap. Can't have that!

Haramstufe Rot fucked around with this message at 17:55 on Jul 3, 2020

Dont Touch ME
Apr 1, 2018

Haramstufe Rot posted:

Edit: I was inspired by the earlier exchange and it has come to my attention that being against genociding Muslims is apparently a racism against the entirety of Chinese people. I suggest you start handing out probations asap. Can't have that!

It's not a new tactic that the CCP co-opts well meaning westerners trying to combat anti-Chinese sentiment by equating criticism of the party with hatred of the Chinese and Chinese culture.

Shumagorath
Jun 6, 2001
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-suspending-extradition-treaty-hong-kong-over-security-law-1.5636479

Canada suspends extradition treaty with Hong Kong over new security law

quote:

Foreign Affairs Minister François-Philippe Champagne says Canada is suspending its extradition treaty with Hong Kong as part of a package of responses to the new security law China has imposed on the territory.

"This process demonstrated disregard for Hong Kong's basic law and the high degree of autonomy promised for Hong Kong under the 'one country, two systems' framework," Champagne said.

"Hong Kong's role as a global hub was built on that foundation. Without it, Canada is forced to reassess existing agreements."

In a statement, Champagne says Canada will also treat sensitive goods being exported to Hong Kong as if they were being sent to mainland China.

That means outright banning some military-related goods from being traded there.

To be expected since extradition was a big sticking point during free trade negotiations five years ago but that export ban is shamefully late. Holy gently caress am I glad that deal never went through; we'd be bound to continue dealing with the party in good faith while they did nothing of the sort.

Fojar38 posted:

A) Yes, but the context of the tweet was pro-authoritarian and accusing the protesters of all being state-department props. If you repost a tweet it reflects on you, and if your "lol" was meant to be at the expense of the tweet, that wasn't made clear.
This isn't a unique instance, either: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3912640&pagenumber=11&perpage=40#post502118465

Shumagorath fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Jul 3, 2020

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Not So Fast
Dec 27, 2007


Complaining about one thread in another thread is always the most boring thing to read. If you believe in the strength of your posting go argue with the CCP stans over there.

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