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joat mon posted:Maybe you did a little too much CBT? I’m glad i’m not the only one who thinks that. Navy had a lot of computer based training.
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terrorist ambulance posted:Googled this and that list of symptoms was an uncomfortable look in the mirror. welp, yeah lol when he showed me the definition it was like drat joat mon posted:Maybe you did a little too much CBT?  (thanks old man)Roger_Mudd posted:Dysthymia checking in. Stuff is difficult right now. Cardio really does help. i know some people are anti-meds but if you're open to it at all try it. like 2-3 weeks in when they kicked in it was like a fog lifting
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Soothing Vapors posted:i know some people are anti-meds but if you're open to it at all try it. like 2-3 weeks in when they kicked in it was like a fog lifting Fwiw this was my experience as well, give your brain a month on training wheels
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Soothing Vapors posted:yeah lol when he showed me the definition it was like drat Ohh. Don’t get me wrong. Meds and therapy are awesome. I do those as well. But post COVID, cardio has been vital to getting out of bed in the morning.
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Soothing Vapors posted:My sex drive is in the dumpster now, but I'm 39 so that's more blessing than curse I'm not sure I have it in me to dunk on you after all this.
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blarzgh posted:you must not be aware that in Texas we give birth by placing the mother in the bed of an F150 and doing donuts in a muddy field until the baby comes out. Is the muddy field part just so the mother has plausible deniability about pooping while pushing the kid out?
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blarzgh posted:you must not be aware that in Texas we give birth by placing the mother in the bed of an F150 and doing donuts in a muddy field until the baby comes out. Only an F150? Too poor for an F350 with a smoke tune?
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nm posted:Only an F150? Too poor for an F350 with a smoke tune? Fuckin Yankee, obvs unawares that the gear ratio on a big 1 ton diesel (what sorta pussy buys the V6?) isnt ideal for the prime muddin experience
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I've been on anti-depressants for the last two decades. I think I was diagnosed with MDD, but my whole deal sounds much more like dysthymia. I don't really have anything that I can unequivocally say "works" for me. Meds keep it controlled in that I feel like I'm further back from the edge of despair -- most of the time I'm just sort of passively wishing things would end instead of actively contemplating self-harm. I did therapy for several years. I enjoyed it and found it beneficial, but once I left college, it involved a commute. I had trouble justifying 90 minutes in the car (both ways) for 45 minutes of talk. So I didn't keep up with it. If I thought I could consistently get the time off of work AND have a therapist I liked in my hometown AND... etc, I would do it again. Sorry for everyone who's going through this. I think depression (and its relatives) are really subtle and insidious. (I always think of a virus that specifically targets your antivirus software. It's a dumb analogy, but I came up with it forever ago and it's stuck with me.) I can remember being in a psychiatrist's office in the early 2000s and I was telling him that everything was fine. And he starts asking me "Are you experiencing less joy? Have you been having trouble sleeping? Changes in weight?" And I'm saying "yes" to every question. I had these moments of clarity: he's going right down the list of symptoms from the DSM-IV! I'm saying yes! I am, in fact, STILL DEPRESSED. One of my little coping strategies is just identifying when it's the depression talking. Because it sends you messages but they sound like they're coming from a healthy brain and they sound like the voice of pure reason. So sometimes taking a beat and saying "Oh, that's depression brain talking, that's not necessarily objective reality" helps me get a better perspective on things. That is NOT a substitute for any legitimate treatment, obviously -- it's just something that helps me put my intrusive thoughts into context.
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It's also worth questioning why so many people in our profession experience this, cause it seems like it's drat near 90% sadbrains cases 10% psychopaths, which makes sense with the rampant substance abuse as self-medication. I should work out more and eat less too. Go to law school. E: can anyone actually see this page of the thread? I can't seem to find it Nice piece of fish fucked around with this message at 15:56 on Jul 3, 2020 |
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joat mon posted:Maybe you did a little too much CBT? i did CBT as one of the two dozen treatments after i got mega sick on a mountain trip and the doctors could never figure out what was wrong with me. anyways, the doctor who did the CBT was insanely hot and every time she mentioned CBT i could barely keep a straight face and frankly she shouldn't have been licensed in that area!
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blarzgh posted:Fuckin Yankee, obvs unawares that the gear ratio on a big 1 ton diesel (what sorta pussy buys the V6?) isnt ideal for the prime muddin experience No, because you can never switch rear ends. Keep justifying half assing things.
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Vox Nihili posted:I'm not sure I have it in me to dunk on you after all this. lol <3
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Nice piece of fish posted:It's also worth questioning why so many people in our profession experience this, cause it seems like it's drat near 90% sadbrains cases 10% psychopaths, which makes sense with the rampant substance abuse as self-medication. The profession predisposes people to sadbrains. The job fundamentally is to care about things (legal technicalities and formalities) that have no meaning except that we collectively agreed to make them a big deal. So the kind of people who care about that bullshit are going to be sadbrains type worriers.
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Soothing Vapors posted:lol Get on some TRT my dude.
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ulmont posted:The profession predisposes people to sadbrains. The job fundamentally is to care about things (legal technicalities and formalities) that have no meaning except that we collectively agreed to make them a big deal. So the kind of people who care about that bullshit are going to be sadbrains type worriers. I feel it's also the high pressure environment with everything being high stakes while simultaneously the metrics of success are nebulous, the job exerts a certain chaos and intrudes on your personal life, work/life balance is a running loving joke in the community and it can be very solitary work. Like, look at this list from actual research: Burnout for Experts posted:8.2 Environmental Risk Factors for Burnout Where depression and anxiety are core symptoms. Go to law school, kids. (but don't actually)
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ulmont posted:The profession predisposes people to sadbrains. The job fundamentally is to care about things (legal technicalities and formalities) that have no meaning except that we collectively agreed to make them a big deal. So the kind of people who care about that bullshit are going to be sadbrains type worriers. This plus lawyering demands you set aside empathy.
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Look Sir Droids posted:This plus lawyering demands you set aside empathy.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Serious question time: do any of you suffer from actual clinical depression? Yes. I'm away right now, so this is short. I have not found a "fix." I stopped working as an attorney, but I also have the benefit of a disability policy. It has not cured my anxiety or depression. But the best way I can describe it is that for me, practicing law was like trying to run a marathon on a broken leg. My leg is still broken, but I'm not being forced to run marathon on it right now at least. I do think what you get diagnosed with in psychology is a little bit of a crap shoot, and dependent on the preferences of the practitioner. For example, I think you could get dysthymia, anhedonia, or some form of depression as a diagnosis, not entirely dependent on you, but just as much on the therapist/psychiatrist, what insurance wants to see, etc. Edit: okay, that wasn't as short as I thought it would be. Diet and exercise are great and all that, but also don't beat yourself up if things don't work. I've gone to the gym for five days a week for year long stretches (forcing myself to, because I should to try to treat the depression), and it hasn't made a dent - it actually makes me more frustrated because I feel like I must be doing something wrong (and because I never really enjoy the exercising - it's a task I have to force myself to do). So don't beat yourself up if you can't dig out of it the way a lot of other people can. Just keep trying to find your path.
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SlyFrog posted:So don't beat yourself up if you can't dig out of it the way a lot of other people can. Just keep trying to find your path. I think that's an important point. Find out what works for you (and is safe), and do that. Depression isn't one-size-fits-all, so there's no reason treating it should be. And also, try not to throttle well-meaning idiots who say stuff like "Oh, when I feel a little sad, I take a day off work and eat ice cream!" They Do Not Get It. I don't care that one time you put a bandage on your finger because MY WHOLE ARM IS OFF.
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Talking to people including y'all helps. I went for a jog this morning that was good, too. Still struggle with work and and focus. I'm in a better mood, but I recognize this is a cyclical thing. I'm feeling better because I'm talking to people and getting responses, but the underlying issues are absolutely still there. I'm getting screened for PTSD by the VA on Tuesday. That may help shed some light on what's going on and the best treatment going forward. Thanks, goons.
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Mr. Nice! posted:Talking to people including y'all helps. I went for a jog this morning that was good, too. Still struggle with work and and focus. I'm in a better mood, but I recognize this is a cyclical thing. I'm feeling better because I'm talking to people and getting responses, but the underlying issues are absolutely still there. I'm getting screened for PTSD by the VA on Tuesday. That may help shed some light on what's going on and the best treatment going forward. I can't tell you how much you people helped me when I was struggling with what to do. I think you are spot on, keep talking and engaging. People here actually do care. And you're not alone or strange for going through this.
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Alaemon posted:I've been on anti-depressants for the last two decades. I think I was diagnosed with MDD, but my whole deal sounds much more like dysthymia. Completely unrelated to the Law Megathread, but there are HUGE advances in psychedelic therapies (especially coming out of Canada). If the traditional meds haven't worked for you, consider the alternate path. There are many people just like you that psychedelic therapy has worked miracles. Just a PSA, please don't sue the messenger.
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Lawgoons who did a mid/late year lateral, what was your experience on getting a bonus at your new firm? Full bonus, pro-rata, no bonus at all? I would love 2 hear from YOU.
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I think my state is trying to legalize shrooms this November, we'll see how it goes. Was nice to have Friday off this week. Camping at the beach right now.
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Moose_Knuck posted:Completely unrelated to the Law Megathread, but there are HUGE advances in psychedelic therapies (especially coming out of Canada). If the traditional meds haven't worked for you, consider the alternate path. There are many people just like you that psychedelic therapy has worked miracles. It would be really cool if a large chunk of the world who needed this didn't live in a failing nation state that hurf durf bans mushrooms and such, the drugs that probably have literally killed no one ever. (I swear to god Goons don't get loving pedantic with me and talk to me about that one case in 1963 where the guy had a psychotic break and then got hit by a bus or something. You get my overall point.) There is limited research on this in the US and the FDA has done some fast tracking (and some cities like Denver have moved toward possibly decriminalizing), but the reality is that legal use of psychedelics in the US for depression and anxiety are still at a minimum years away. SlyFrog fucked around with this message at 03:00 on Jul 4, 2020 |
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Vox Nihili posted:Lawgoons who did a mid/late year lateral, what was your experience on getting a bonus at your new firm? Full bonus, pro-rata, no bonus at all? PMs open btw
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*kramers into the thread to post the “falls through the floor into the Parisian catacombs” post from FYAD*
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I have never read FYAD and I'm richer for it.
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Phil Moscowitz posted:*kramers into the thread to post the “falls through the floor into the Parisian catacombs” post from FYAD* proposal: i am going to make an environmentally sustainable yoga retreat in hawaii reality: a y2k survivalist paid goons a "food stipend" to help me clearcut a rainforest, dig a road by hand, torture and mutilate animals to death on camera, and bathe in/drink from an improperly filtered kiddy pool that wild hogs poo poo and pissed in proposal: i am going to make a fun zipline for kids at camp reality: a goon spent tens of thousands of dollars constructing a machine that kills children, entirely by accident proposal: a fad diet thread in the exercise forum reality: a mentally ill man resembling a melted candle, the pied piper of ham joints, told people that eating nothing but eggs and bacon and lard in paint buckets (they were literally buying and eating buckets full of lard in the name of good health) would not only make them lose weight, but was so healthy it would cure heart disease and cancer. an enormous fat powerlifter who cant run for 20 seconds probated and banned anyone who challenged this wisdom until it lead to a man barely in his 20s being prescribed statins. proposal: a thread about animal husbandry in the pet forum reality: a moderator unrepentantly killed animals with ac/dc hadoukens and probated people who asked questions proposal: a forum for "responsible drug users" and "harm reduction" reality: a man falls through the earth and into parisian catacombs. taking a torch from the wall he spies row upon row of skeletons. grasping the nearest by the shoulders, he shakes it madly, yelling "my nigga have u tried lsd"
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Nice piece of fish posted:I have never read FYAD and I'm richer for it. Some of the funniest poo poo to come out of this place was on FYAD (see, e.g., supra). Too bad it was 95% nonsense.
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Pook Good Mook posted:My wife and I just got a puppy we prepared for for two months and within 3 days I resent him and how he completely hosed our lives up. Whats wrong with it? Just pissing and making GBS threads everywhere?
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Gobbeldygook posted:its really amazing how the actions of goons and mods are so freaking far beyond the pale that its actually impossible for a bystander to believe. so what is http://www.tehposts.com/reality/beyond-the-pale.html anyway
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I hope everyone takes care of themselves and feels good today. Do something you enjoy, spend time with friends and family, and eat some good food. Take shrooms or smoke pot if it works for you. Get in a good headspace and remember people love you and you are a good person. I enjoy reading posts from all of you and really didn’t want to see this place go. I’ve met a number of you in person and every one I’ve met has been really great. I know the people I haven’t met are the same. Be well in the beer way you can.
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Phil Moscowitz posted:I hope everyone takes care of themselves and feels good today. Do something you enjoy, spend time with friends and family, and eat some good food. Take shrooms or smoke pot if it works for you. Get in a good headspace and remember people love you and you are a good person.
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Petey posted:so what is http://www.tehposts.com/reality/beyond-the-pale.html anyway it was a post originally made by duncan aka tritcum guzzler and many other names. he had an av that was a face but the eyes would smack each other around the head and change positions. he posted a lot in the mma forum as well and was consistently one of the funniest people there. He was working on a med degree or some sort of research poo poo in the uk and couldn't have real life be infected by idiots online and stopped posting a few years before fyad went under.
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Gobbeldygook posted:its really amazing how the actions of goons and mods are so freaking far beyond the pale that its actually impossible for a bystander to believe. Phil Moscowitz posted:I hope everyone takes care of themselves and feels good today. Do something you enjoy, spend time with friends and family, and eat some good food. Take shrooms or smoke pot if it works for you. Get in a good headspace and remember people love you and you are a good person. gay
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If you don’t know those are all based on actual threads from the forums. The first two were hilarious to watch unfold. I never read the other two but did watch them get ripped on by FYAD which was pretty great. The LSD guy was Hondarider (?) promoting LSD as an alternative to heroin abuse, which the recent posts about psychedelics made me think of. I don’t take issue with psychedelics BTW, as I’ve said elsewhere I think anything that grows naturally (as opposed to developed/refined in a lab) should be 100% legal and available for people to use as they see fit.
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That post was for you too, jagoff
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