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Erulisse
Feb 12, 2019

A bad poster trying to get better.

3D Megadoodoo posted:

I'm about 100% certain the Samsung-hate is generally just racism.

No, gently caress samsung. 2 years of my life, memories and photos were gone after an OTA update on the very first samsung note. It fried the memory chip. Everything was gone, all passwords, notes, contacts etc etc.
Oh loving samsung loving gently caress you, forever

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legooolas
Jul 30, 2004

AntherUslessPoster posted:

No, gently caress samsung. 2 years of my life, memories and photos were gone after an OTA update on the very first samsung note. It fried the memory chip. Everything was gone, all passwords, notes, contacts etc etc.
Oh loving samsung loving gently caress you, forever

Not that this helps past you, but please everyone back up things you need and want to keep. Especially all that stuff on your phone, which you might drop down the loo, or lose, or drive over it or something.

I've seen way too many people lose stuff they really would rather not.

Or is backup a failed and/or obsolete technology?

an actual frog
Mar 1, 2007


HEH, HEH, HEH!
So I started a PC build using a new-to-me X99 board (itself a bit of a tech relic, honestly) and well, today I also learned about a standard called "SATA Express", a means to connect PCIe storage devices using SATA-like connectors

Seriously, look at this poo poo :psyduck:

Capt.Whorebags
Jan 10, 2005

I’ve got the Samsung trifecta... phone, TV and washing machine.

No issues with any but when I saw that the washing machine had WiFi, i was just “lol, wat? No.”

I don’t need Russians remote flooding my house.

Now ask me about NEC front load washing machines, that thing was a loving mess.

unimportantguy
Dec 25, 2012

Hey, Johnny, what's a "shitpost"?
I have a Samsung TV and monitor and they're fine and good respectively. I was under the impression they had a good rep for those things. Am I wrong on the internet?

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

Like moat brands if a brand becomes good they will make it poo poo for a quick buck

Weatherman
Jul 30, 2003

WARBLEKLONK

3D Megadoodoo posted:

I'm about 100% certain the Samsung-hate is generally just racism.

Great username/post combo.

Lowen SoDium
Jun 5, 2003

Highen Fiber
Clapping Larry
I have never owned a Samsung anything that didn't let me down.

Imagined
Feb 2, 2007
My experience with Samsung has been good hardware, lovely software. Although I will say that they do make by far the best Android tablets right now, but even Google has given up on that nowadays.

azflyboy
Nov 9, 2005
I recently found out that several of the older airplanes at the airline I fly for ("older" being maybe 15 years) still use iOmega zip disks to update the database on our navigation system (which happens every 28 days), so I have no clue how we managed to keep a supply of working zip disks that long.

Other fun old airplane technology is the heads up display on the airplane uses a monochrome CRT projector, which is not only bulky as hell, but also comically expensive. The flat piece of glass that projector puts the image on (which is about the size of a paperback book) runs about $18-20k to replace, so I'm sure the projector has to be several times that much.

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Samsung monitors seem decent enough, and their SSDs are among the best. Samsung phones live in a very competitive space and are replaced often enough that reputation matters, so they seem to be no worse than the average Android level of jank. (They're not great about software updates, though; my cheap Nokia has faster updates and will see more android versions than a top Samsung).

Beyond that, YMMV.

Armacham
Mar 3, 2007

Then brothers in war, to the skirmish must we hence! Shall we hence?
My Samsung TV is fine. I do have a pihole setup that blocks all ads and tracking though ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

i like buying lovely and weird offbrand electronics for cheap and see how they function, something about the shadiness of weird aliexpress type of stuff is fun to me, you never know what you get and it sometimes costs almost nothing

i bought a cheap mechanical keyboard in a "made in china" type of store a few months ago, here's a review of it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5Kma3KkZ3o

this thing was 25 euros, it honestly works great except i cant plug it into USB3.0 because that makes it spaz out for some reason, it's extremely clicky and loud and weighs a ton, it has a metal board, i love it

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Shibawanko posted:

i like buying lovely and weird offbrand electronics for cheap and see how they function, something about the shadiness of weird aliexpress type of stuff is fun to me, you never know what you get and it sometimes costs almost nothing

i bought a cheap mechanical keyboard in a "made in china" type of store a few months ago, here's a review of it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5Kma3KkZ3o

this thing was 25 euros, it honestly works great except i cant plug it into USB3.0 because that makes it spaz out for some reason, it's extremely clicky and loud and weighs a ton, it has a metal board, i love it

Hello friend, you need to check out the Aliexpress thread!

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3806076&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=419

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



The Aliexpress Thread: Support your local landfill

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

rndmnmbr posted:

There's probably some niche home user application that still needs a modem, like faxing from your computer.

My wife works for the state and up until very recently (last 4 years or so) they still had to use a PC running Windows95 to dial into certain air monitors.

rndmnmbr posted:

The day I yanked my modem to put a USB2 expansion card in was a good day, second only to the day I yanked my DVD burner and replaced it with a blanking plate.

my Blu Ray burner is a cold dead hands situation, but I'm a data hoarder who can't afford a NAS

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

Are data blurays actually cheaper per TB than hard drives? (I mean, you'd need a computer to work as a server - but you could probably find a workable old one for about the price of a BD burner.)

Mercedes Colomar
Nov 1, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

oh my lord I was unaware of this thread and I thank you now. But I need an abridged overview before I dive in to the madness.

I have 400 stickers on the way for decorating my coffee table and PC stand table.

Moo the cow
Apr 30, 2020

Computer viking posted:

Are data blurays actually cheaper per TB than hard drives? (I mean, you'd need a computer to work as a server - but you could probably find a workable old one for about the price of a BD burner.)

Interesting question.

Quick googling suggests that 1-2 th drives are roughly on par with an equivalent number of discs, dollar for dollar.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
Based on prices on Amazon, you can get 1.2TB of BD-Rs for 40 bucks, or 1TB worth of hard drive for 50 bucks.

Moo the cow
Apr 30, 2020

Manuel Calavera posted:

oh my lord I was unaware of this thread and I thank you now. But I need an abridged overview before I dive in to the madness.

I have 400 stickers on the way for decorating my coffee table and PC stand table.

It's a thread for people buying stuff on aliexpress and also pointing out weird poo poo there.

Rev. Bleech_
Oct 19, 2004

~OKAY, WE'LL DRINK TO OUR LEGS!~

Computer viking posted:

Are data blurays actually cheaper per TB than hard drives? (I mean, you'd need a computer to work as a server - but you could probably find a workable old one for about the price of a BD burner.)

not that much different, but I can spread out the purchase of the disks. Unless you use cheap LTH discs they're also a lot hardier/more suitable for archiving than DVD-R, since the recording layer is non-organic. I have trust issues with spinning rust, especially in a portable form factor that a cat can knock off of a desk

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

it's almost certainly cheaper to just get data storage from a reliable provider. they've almost certainly got a better chance of keeping data than any disk, and there's always encryption if you don't want google to know about your warez (they know about your warez)

90s Solo Cup
Feb 22, 2011

To understand the cup
He must become the cup



legooolas posted:

Not that this helps past you, but please everyone back up things you need and want to keep. Especially all that stuff on your phone, which you might drop down the loo, or lose, or drive over it or something.

I've seen way too many people lose stuff they really would rather not.


Sage advice.

To add to the Samsung horse-kicking, I had a 860 Evo brick itself out of nowhere. If I didn't have the bulk of my data saved on a second hard drive, I would have lost everything instead of just losing a third of my data.

quote:

Or is backup a failed and/or obsolete technology?

Anyone still back up their poo poo to CDs and DVDs? I just went through several spindles of those things reading them one by one, just to see if there was any data on them worth keeping.

Never bought a Blu-ray player, so I never bought any of those discs. Besides, Blu-ray is an obsolete technology in of itself (at least when you consider streaming and the ongoing death of optical media).

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


If you're on any kind of *nix or other system with rsync available, absolutely look into rsync.net.

You sign up, set up a GPG key pair and there's no special software needed or anything, it's just rsync and you just schedule it like any other task in your crontab. Price per GB is reasonable and you can even use ZFS send to archive filesystem snapshots, which is pretty slick.

Obsolete tech: Filesystems that aren't copy-on-write and don't have snapshots or seamless spanning across disks with selectable redundancy and hassle-free resizing and expansion to more disks.

(Also, btrfs is better than ZFS)

Antigravitas
Dec 8, 2019

Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:
btrfs is obsolete tech. It tried to kill the ZFS but it was proven wrong. Imagine writing a COW system but somehow still being affected by the write hole lmao.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Only in raid5/raid6, which are themselves utterly obsolete anyway.

It can happen if (and AFAIK only if) you run raid5/raid6, have an unclean shutdown while data is being written and a disk dies during or immediately after, before an automated scrub is run.

There is work done on fixing that rare issue, but it's not a high priority, because no one should be using raid5/raid6 anymore when raid10 and raid1/raid1c3/raid1c4 exists.

Honestly they should have just left raid5/raid6 out completely.

Antigravitas
Dec 8, 2019

Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:
That would make them even more obsolete. Our bulk storage is all double parity and we may go triple parity eventually. And contrary to btrfs I am pretty confident that we won't lose 0.5PB to the write hole.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Well, it you insist on using obsolete raid formats, that's your choice.

Parity raid setups scale really badly with large drives, multi-week rebuilds are so much fun :v:

E: but I mean, what do I know? I only work at a major ISP and datacenter operator, handling petabytes and petabytes of traffic every day.

KozmoNaut has a new favorite as of 09:25 on Jul 6, 2020

Code Jockey
Jan 24, 2006

69420 basic bytes free

KozmoNaut posted:

If you're on any kind of *nix or other system with rsync available, absolutely look into rsync.net.

You sign up, set up a GPG key pair and there's no special software needed or anything, it's just rsync and you just schedule it like any other task in your crontab. Price per GB is reasonable and you can even use ZFS send to archive filesystem snapshots, which is pretty slick.

Ooooo, this is tempting, thank you.

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

KozmoNaut posted:

Well, it you insist on using obsolete raid formats, that's your choice.

Parity raid setups scale really badly with large drives, multi-week rebuilds are so much fun :v:

E: but I mean, what do I know? I only work at a major ISP and datacenter operator, handling petabytes and petabytes of traffic every day.

So you're the person the nsa pays to get my porno history, I see

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Code Jockey posted:

Ooooo, this is tempting, thank you.

And it's very explicitly a backup service, there's no media streaming web interfaces or anything, just a very easy to use solid backup service with snapshots and some nifty rsync/SSH features.


T-man posted:

So you're the person the nsa pays to get my porno history, I see

And may I say that you have exquisite taste in horses, sir/madam.

Antigravitas
Dec 8, 2019

Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:

KozmoNaut posted:

Well, it you insist on using obsolete raid formats, that's your choice.

Parity raid setups scale really badly with large drives, multi-week rebuilds are so much fun :v:

E: but I mean, what do I know? I only work at a major ISP and datacenter operator, handling petabytes and petabytes of traffic every day.

It's fine for bulk storage. rsync.net uses triple-parity as well :v:

Iirc rsync.net also allows zfs receive, so you can send snapshot deltas to the remote side which is cool as hell. We have datasets that take hours to sync with rsync, but take seconds via send/receive to a backup server.

I don't think we'll agree on the use cases for parity raid but I feel we can punch down at old file systems some more:

Imagine having to use rigid partitions and having to unmount the file system to reduce its maximum size. Imagine not having transparent compression like cave men. Imagine having to unmount to check the file system. Imagine having to check the file system at all.

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


Antigravitas posted:

I don't think we'll agree on the use cases for parity raid but I feel we can punch down at old file systems some more:

Imagine having to use rigid partitions and having to unmount the file system to reduce its maximum size. Imagine not having transparent compression like cave men. Imagine having to unmount to check the file system. Imagine having to check the file system at all.

Absolutely agreed. Being forced to deal with MS-DOS era partitioning and fixed storage sizes feels so primitive. Almost as bad as the old SCSI controller I had in an Alpha server, which could only create volumes with a maximum size of 32GB. Which is fun when you have a raid5 with five 36GB disks. And I had to run the management software from a boot floppy. Fun times.

Aside from keeping my system on its own SSD (raid1 if I had the SATA ports, it's an old PC), I don't care about individual devices. I just want a nice big pool of storage that I can resize at will and add/remove devices freely, as long as whatever files I have will fit in the new total capacity.

Horace
Apr 17, 2007

Gone Skiin'

90s Solo Cup posted:

Never bought a Blu-ray player, so I never bought any of those discs. Besides, Blu-ray is an obsolete technology in of itself (at least when you consider streaming and the ongoing death of optical media).

Blu-Ray's an odd one, because I know a bunch of people who own a Blu-Ray player but no actual Blu-rays. Mostly PlayStations of course but also people who bought standalone players because it was the only DVD player with HDMI or Netflix.

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

ive only ever owned a single movie on dvd: jacob's ladder, and that's just because i couldn't find it for download anywhere in the 2000s, my dvd player was my xbox but even back then i didnt see the need for having things on fragile discs when i could just download them


thanks! yeah i read that sometimes, i havent actually ordered anything from aliexpress yet to contribute though

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

90s Solo Cup posted:

Never bought a Blu-ray player, so I never bought any of those discs. Besides, Blu-ray is an obsolete technology in of itself (at least when you consider streaming and the ongoing death of optical media).

I've owned two blu-ray players, and now have a UHD player.

I completely disagree with streaming being a replacement for physical media. Streaming is fickle and fractured these days, with rights shifting with the winds, as everyone wants a piece of that pie. One day you own a digital copy of a movie, the next the rights are gone from that service and you get two free rentals as a "replacement."

With a physical copy, I actually own it, and no one can remove it. For instance, last weekend I watched all four Mad Max movies. I'd actually need either a subscription to FuboTV (I've never heard of this one) to watch all four, or a subscription to DirecTV, HBO Max, and SyFy if I didn't want to go that route. With my physical copy, all I have to do is pluck it off the shelf and put it in the tray.

Zereth
Jul 9, 2003



Iron Crowned posted:

I've owned two blu-ray players, and now have a UHD player.

I completely disagree with streaming being a replacement for physical media. Streaming is fickle and fractured these days, with rights shifting with the winds, as everyone wants a piece of that pie. One day you own a digital copy of a movie, the next the rights are gone from that service and you get two free rentals as a "replacement."

With a physical copy, I actually own it, and no one can remove it. For instance, last weekend I watched all four Mad Max movies. I'd actually need either a subscription to FuboTV (I've never heard of this one) to watch all four, or a subscription to DirecTV, HBO Max, and SyFy if I didn't want to go that route. With my physical copy, all I have to do is pluck it off the shelf and put it in the tray.
Plus you can still watch your physical copy of Mad Max if your internet goes out.

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
It's almost like they want piracy to come roaring back

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LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

Zereth posted:

Plus you can still watch your physical copy of Mad Max if your internet goes out.

Makes me think...has anyone made a full length movie flipbook?

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