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Like we already know they had Akira and Galaxy models, just chuck a couple of them in the fleet and it's suddenly "oh poo poo, Starfleet has really stepped up their shipbuilding game!" instead of "oh look, the effects guy found copy and paste  "
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Senor Tron posted:Like we already know they had Akira and Galaxy models, just chuck a couple of them in the fleet and it's suddenly "oh poo poo, Starfleet has really stepped up their shipbuilding game!" instead of "oh look, the effects guy found copy and paste And waaaaay in the back, a lovely old Miranda, which explodes for no other reason than old times' sake.
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Yeah, a standardized fleet makes perfect sense but it's TV and it looks bad.
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Grand Fromage posted:Yeah, a standardized fleet makes perfect sense but it's TV and it looks bad. If they're standardizing because they're more military or whatever, they should have different ships for different roles. Toss in some defiants or whatever, give them a cool formation
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or, check it, just because it's 2020 and we have the render power to throw up a hojillion starships, doesn't mean we have to maybe that scene would have been a lot more tense with one federation starship and one romulan starship. or even just a handful of ships on each side. make it so that all the orchids got used up dragging down a loving borg cube. Timby posted:It's literally the Sovereign class with the nacelle pylon directions reversed. Timby I know you've got a beef with John Eaves, lord knows I loathe his stupid bolt-on torpedo launchers and poo poo, but the Sov looks way better than those loving turds
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Timby I know you've got a beef with John Eaves, lord knows I loathe his stupid bolt-on torpedo launchers and poo poo, but the Sov looks way better than those loving turds Look at this poo poo:  It's a slightly flattened Sovereign, with the pylons reversed from a backwards direction to a frontwards one.
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Jul 6, 2020 06:00
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That is a supremely ugly vessel.
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It reminds me of some dumb macho pickup truck design
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These tempos are all wrong and it makes me mad.
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Timby posted:Look at this poo poo: Apparently this was the concept art.  Star Trek Online did a ship based on that years ago but changed it more from concept and honestly I think did it better.  Like, it actually has a shape. When STO does a concept better than the TV show it's kinda sad. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 11:45 on Jul 6, 2020 |
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MikeJF posted:
If I had the time and patience, I'd Photoshop this, but basically you don't need to do much besides make the neck taller and move the saucer farther forward and it would be a perfectly logical design evolution of the Excelsior class.
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Hey, what was the newest Federation ship class we saw before Picard? Was it the Prometheus? The Nova debuted after it but it had been around for at least a few years by then. (future ships notwithstanding) MikeJF fucked around with this message at 13:18 on Jul 6, 2020 |
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Jul 6, 2020 13:14
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Enterprise J  e: drat you!!
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Timby posted:Look at this poo poo: Hang on a gently caress. During the launch era of star trek online, before they managed to get slightly less awful designers and revamp a lot of the game, a lot of the ships had really really bad alternative skins. A lot of the time with newer versions of the ships you can't even use those parts, they were terrible, and they've kinda been forgotten about. Anyway, one of the alternative sovereign class deisigns was the Imperial class. 
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Why would the UFP call a ship design 'Imperial'?
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Okay, so it looks like there were three classes of ship in Riker's fleet. The Seeker-class, the Inquiry-Class, and the Equity class. Years ago, John Eaves did a bunch of concept art for Star Trek Online back when it was being made by a different company that flopped before release, and it looks like the same concept art must've gotten reused for Picard. So this concept art: Was used to make this, in Picard:   As well as this in Star Trek Online. While presumably another piece of concept that they must've taken from STO was responsible for these two shitbergs.
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MikeJF posted:Hang on a gently caress. Much as I loathe Eaves, he's off the hook for this one. The forward pylon sweep was in his Sovereign concept sketches for First Contact.    Thom12255 posted:Why would the UFP call a ship design 'Imperial'? Or "Sovereign" for that matter. That (and about 50 other things in the design) always rubbed me the wrong way. McSpanky fucked around with this message at 13:35 on Jul 6, 2020 |
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I know, I was talking about the entire engineering section ribbing and deflector, they're identical to Zhang He, far too much to be coincidental.Thom12255 posted:Why would the UFP call a ship design 'Imperial'? Well the ship was a variation of the Sovereign, so... Of course, Sovereign isn't a great name either. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 13:37 on Jul 6, 2020 |
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MikeJF posted:I know, I was talking about the entire engineering section ribbing and deflector, they're identical to Zhang He, far too much to be coincidental. Ohhh, hurf I wasn't even looking at the rest of the ship. Though now that you mention it, I knew the nacelles on this one looked familiar 
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Them's some gently caress ugly ships. When did everything start looking like poo poo drawn in a highschooler's math book?
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Lizard Combatant posted:Them's some gently caress ugly ships. Modern Tech has made people get lazy when designing stuff with CGI I thinks.
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My guess is: "It has to look new and different." "No, not like that! Where's the Star Trek Enterprise?"
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Thom12255 posted:Why would the UFP call a ship design 'Imperial'? For all we know, Zelda Ann Imperial was the third President of the Federation and saw it through some difficult transitional years. McSpanky posted:Or "Sovereign" for that matter. Bob Sovereign, inventor of the GNDN conduit. 
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Obviously, it was designed at the Andorian Imperial Shipyards.
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I’m going to post this again.
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The_Doctor posted:I’m going to post this again. Doug Marcaida-rear end space station
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Ryan North set up a GPT-3 bot to come up with new summaries for trek episodes based on input titles. Hits most of the same notes as TNG seasons 8 https://twitter.com/StarTrekAI/status/1280115540560719872 https://twitter.com/StarTrekAI/status/1279446525328801799 https://twitter.com/StarTrekAI/status/1279432504038965254 sometimes it overfits a little https://twitter.com/StarTrekAI/status/1280172655799304193 or just comments on it https://twitter.com/StarTrekAI/status/1279807499764260865
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Hot take: from the limited angles I've seen it at, I really like the Ambassador-class.
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Snow Cone Capone posted:Hot take: from the limited angles I've seen it at, I really like the Ambassador-class. The Ambassador is neat, I wish we'd seen some derivatives of it in the Constitution-Miranda manner. Didn't care for the Yamaguchi modifications though.
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Snow Cone Capone posted:Hot take: from the limited angles I've seen it at, I really like the Ambassador-class. Edit: after re-reading I saw you said Ambassador and not Nebula as I somehow read it. It looks silly and kitbashed to the extent that you wonder why Starfleet didn't just pay the extra to just add a neck and make another Galaxy class. That's why I love it, because all those ship variants fit perfectly into my view that Starship design is a big make-work program for their engineers. The A-teams pump out Galaxy, Sovereign, and Intrepid class designs. The B-teams pump out stuff like the Nebula class. Edit resume: In my head the Ambassador class is the original concept art, now that was a beautiful ship.
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Senor Tron posted:Edit: after re-reading I saw you said Ambassador and not Nebula as I somehow read it. In my head canon the Nebulas are reinforced for planetary landings, per the stocky rearrangement of the main components and the thick spoiler piece to shift the center of gravity so the saucer doesn't tip the ship over.
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Senor Tron posted:Edit: after re-reading I saw you said Ambassador and not Nebula as I somehow read it.   the Yamaguchi refit's not bad either  ST:O has this weirdo listed too, the Narendra refit: 
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Ambassador class, best class.
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Snow Cone Capone posted:ST:O has this weirdo listed too, the Narendra refit: That's Andrew Probert's original Ambassador design, which is pretty baller in its own right.
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McSpanky posted:In my head canon the Nebulas are reinforced for planetary landings, per the stocky rearrangement of the main components and the thick spoiler piece to shift the center of gravity so the saucer doesn't tip the ship over. It's a hatchback. Can't honestly call smaller than the Galaxy-class sedan, but it's more compact. 
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