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Fellwenner
Oct 21, 2005
Don't make me kill you.

Anias posted:

Yes. Michelle Sahara West is superb. Her cast novels are great, and urban fantasy adjacent.

If you like epic fantasy run don’t walk to get The Hidden City.

I'd agree. I love both series.

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StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

ToxicFrog posted:

Are those any good?

I'm up to book 10 and they're AMAZING(ly indulgent). They slowly morph into more standard fantasy while retaining some urban fantasy trappings and I love them so so much. If you like the first one, keep going. There'll be a dip in quality around book, uh, 3-5 ish? Where it goes from great to good, then it starts ramping up again as the overall plot kicks into high gear.

If you don't like the first one, drop it immediately.

Also don't judge her other works based on Elantra, they're deliberately written to be... not lighter, but there's only one POV character and it's not as super meaty as her primary stuff is.

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

Anias posted:

Yes. Michelle Sahara West is superb. Her cast novels are great, and urban fantasy adjacent.

If you like epic fantasy run don’t walk to get The Hidden City.

Or you could do what I did and read the Hunter's Oath/Death duology first, they're not as good as they're earlier books but they're still really solid and fascinating epic fantasy in only two(!) volumes.

DreamingofRoses
Jun 27, 2013
Nap Ghost
Speaking of books coming out this year, I’m pretty excited about the next October Daye novel coming out in September.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


DreamingofRoses posted:

Speaking of books coming out this year, I’m pretty excited about the next October Daye novel coming out in September.

Yeah, the last half of the year looks pretty great for books all around. In addition to October Daye and the two Dresden Files books there's also a Rivers of London short story collection at the end of July, Laundry Files in October, and Alex Verus in November. And, outside of UF, both Harrow the Ninth and The Tyrant Baru Cormorant are dropping in August. I've got a lot of pre-orders out this year.

Wizchine
Sep 17, 2007

Television is the retina
of the mind's eye.
I'm looking forward to the new Sandman Slim coming August 25th (Ballistic Kiss).

Daric
Dec 23, 2007

Shawn:
Do you really want to know my process?

Lassiter:
Absolutely.

Shawn:
Well it starts with a holla! and ends with a Creamsicle.
There’s also the fourth Stormlight Archive and *cough cough* Cormoran Strike coming out

Everyone
Sep 6, 2019

by sebmojo

Daric posted:

There’s also the fourth Stormlight Archive and *cough cough* Cormoran Strike coming out

Fourth or Fifth? I thought the fourth was already out. I thought The Silkworm was okay and I think I started Career of Evil (never read The Cuckoos's Calling, but, ultimately, I just didn't care all that much for the series.

Daric
Dec 23, 2007

Shawn:
Do you really want to know my process?

Lassiter:
Absolutely.

Shawn:
Well it starts with a holla! and ends with a Creamsicle.
The fourth Stormlight, the fifth Cormoran. I apologize for the confusion.

Everyone
Sep 6, 2019

by sebmojo

Daric posted:

The fourth Stormlight, the fifth Cormoran. I apologize for the confusion.

No biggie. Figure if they hadn't let it be known that "Robert Gailbraith" was J. K. Rowling's "Richard Bachman" the series probably would have gone mostly unnoticed.

Oh, and in this thread's ongoing "Is it Urban Fantasy?" debate/discussion I submit John Whitbourn's BABYLONdon.

Set (mostly) in 1780 London during the Gordon Riots, it apparently (I haven't started reading it yet) feature a "The Doctor" figure called the Cavaliere dealing with some kind of weirdness in the midst of all that stuff. So, historicalish, in an urban setting, dealing with fantasy weirdness.

Deptfordx
Dec 23, 2013

Whoa! New John Whitbourn!

I had totally missed that, much obliged.

Everyone
Sep 6, 2019

by sebmojo

Deptfordx posted:

Whoa! New John Whitbourn!

I had totally missed that, much obliged.

Even better, it's New John Whitbourn that John Whitbourn can obtain is his own country instead of begging favors from people going to Canada or New Zealand to get it. Or, like me, being vain/stubborn enough to drop like $70.00 to get a Canadian re-mailing service to ship it to the US. But I damned well got The Age of the Triffids and now I don't know if I'm going to read it or mount it on a wall like a hunting trophy.

Deptfordx
Dec 23, 2013

I hadn't heard he'd written a Triffid sequel either.

Why is it only available in Canada and New Zealand.

Edit: Oh is it some differing country copyright length shananigans?

Deptfordx fucked around with this message at 23:59 on Jul 3, 2020

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


Dog Therapy: Shockingly Good
Started the re-read at Grave Peril to avoid the worst excesses of the first two books.

Time to first 'young, firm breasts' was page 28.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

RockyB posted:

Started the re-read at Grace Peril to avoid the worst excesses of the first two books.

Time to first 'young, firm breasts' was page 28.

I am surprised at his restraint.

Beachcomber
May 21, 2007

Another day in paradise.


Slippery Tilde

RockyB posted:

Started the re-read at Grave Peril to avoid the worst excesses of the first two books.

Time to first 'young, firm breasts' was page 28.

Amazing, I also started my reread there.

Everyone
Sep 6, 2019

by sebmojo

Deptfordx posted:

I hadn't heard he'd written a Triffid sequel either.

Why is it only available in Canada and New Zealand.

Edit: Oh is it some differing country copyright length shenanigans?

As I understood it, it was copyright shenanigans. And they were so bad that I was talking with Dave Morris about buying a few copies of the book again so that he (Morris) and Whitbourn and close friends of theirs could actually get copies. We were getting into Airmail rates for shipping the things to Great Britain. Fortunately they knew somebody who was traveling to Canada and presumably got copies that way.

So, yeah, that was my brush with relatively famous people, I guess.

And apparently, it's still not (easily) available outside Canada or New Zealand:

https://www.amazon.ca/Age-Triffids-...ps%2C141&sr=8-1

Everyone fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Jul 4, 2020

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Beachcomber posted:

Amazing, I also started my reread there.

The last time I reread the books (which is probably the final time now but oh well) I started at... the book after he finds out Thomas is his brother, I can't remember which one that is. I don't feel like I missed anything important.

Kchama
Jul 25, 2007

ImpAtom posted:

I don't feel like I missed anything important.

The same could be said for not reading any Dresden Files books.

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Beachcomber
May 21, 2007

Another day in paradise.


Slippery Tilde

ImpAtom posted:

The last time I reread the books (which is probably the final time now but oh well) I started at... the book after he finds out Thomas is his brother, I can't remember which one that is. I don't feel like I missed anything important.

Well you missed
the casus belli of the Red Court war
The introduction of the faerie courts, including Mab
First appearance of the swords
Initial appearance of the denarians
First appearance of Mouse
The best opening and closing lines of the series.

Anias
Jun 3, 2010

It really is a lovely hat

What’s the best closing?

Deptfordx
Dec 23, 2013

"It was no longer a dark and stormy night, and we're all gonna get laid bitches!"

Beachcomber
May 21, 2007

Another day in paradise.


Slippery Tilde

Anias posted:

What’s the best closing?

"Why did you buy large breed puppy chow?"

Cicero
Dec 17, 2003

Jumpjet, melta, jumpjet. Repeat for ten minutes or until victory is assured.

RockyB posted:

Started the re-read at Grave Peril to avoid the worst excesses of the first two books.

Time to first 'young, firm breasts' was page 28.
Reminds me of Straight Holt

Cicero fucked around with this message at 12:04 on Jul 4, 2020

Beachcomber
May 21, 2007

Another day in paradise.


Slippery Tilde

Cicero posted:

Reminds of Straight Holt



The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."
I’m writing something UF at the moment with a male protagonist. I’ve half a mind to write him the same way the women are written in the Dresden books.

Everyone
Sep 6, 2019

by sebmojo

The_Doctor posted:

I’m writing something UF at the moment with a male protagonist. I’ve half a mind to write him the same way the women are written in the Dresden books.

You should absolutely do that - for a chapter or two, anyway. Make it some weird dream thing where he's being written (and narrated) that way or something. Kind of a dream take on Stranger Than Fiction. Bonus points if it's some kind of magic vision that's plot-relevant.

Inspector 34
Mar 9, 2009

DOES NOT RESPECT THE RUN

BUT THEY WILL
"...he cocked cockily as he dicked down the stairs..."

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."
"Charlie shivered in the uncommon breeze, causing his nipples to become erect. His moobs pushed pectorally against the cotton of his mottled grey t-shirt."

Lunatic Sledge
Jun 8, 2013

choose your own horror isekai sci-fi Souls-like urban fantasy gamer simulator adventure

or don't?
write about mythical tanuki in the modern day, spend half a chapter describing how their balls do

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."
“Heavy, black, and pendulous.”

Safety Biscuits
Oct 21, 2010

The_Doctor posted:

“Heavy, black, and pendulous.”

rear end in a top hat! :golfclap:

Some Pinko Commie
Jun 9, 2009

CNC! Easy as 1️⃣2️⃣3️⃣!

ImpAtom posted:

The last time I reread the books (which is probably the final time now but oh well) I started at... the book after he finds out Thomas is his brother, I can't remember which one that is. I don't feel like I missed anything important.

A lot of the things that used to be considered "a big deal" in the series lose a lot of their impact after reading a couple other books that manage to do similar things without the things that make Dresden hard to read now.

Ninurta
Sep 19, 2007
What the HELL? That's my cutting board.

The second book of Craig Schaefer's Charlie McCabe series dropped today on my Kindle, that was a pleasant surprise.

For Urban Fantasy content, the Washington Post had an Opinion piece today about the National Garden of American Heroes that reads like a bunch of adventure seeds for a WoD-lite RPG campaign.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/07/midnight-garden-american-heroes/

Two highlights:

It is normal if when you leave the garden, you don’t remember the face of the Warrior Against International Socialism. You will see it only once again, at the moment before your death.

If the statue of Columbus is there, walk rapidly to the exit of the National Garden of American Heroes. The statue of Columbus is allowed to be there, but it is not supposed to be there.

Edit: The article in whole is pasted below. I've opened the site a number of times and it isn't paywalled, not sure it that could be due to a local newspaper I subbed to.

“The National Garden should be located on a site of natural beauty that enables visitors to enjoy nature, walk among the statues, and be inspired to learn about great figures of America’s history. The site should be proximate to at least one major population center, and the site should not cause significant disruption to the local community.”
— Executive Order on Building and Rebuilding Monuments to American Heroes
… and furthermore the National Garden must be opened to public access before July 4, 2026, for no reason, and certainly not to propitiate any sinister forces that need to be propitiated. There is nothing cursed about the National Garden of American Heroes. Do not be concerned! The below warnings are just to ensure that you have a nice time. We do not anticipate any incidents from the National Garden of American Heroes.

Warnings To Visitors!

• Be sure to enter the National Garden before dusk. Bring a penny from no earlier than 2006, a copy of the Constitution, sturdy shoes and headphones. Come alone.
• The entrance to the National Garden of American Heroes is behind the Dolley Madison statue. If Dolley Madison is a painting and not a statue, do not attempt to enter the garden.
• The thing that looks like an abstract or modernist rendering of Benjamin Franklin is NOT a statue. The president’s proclamation was careful to specify that all statues in the National Garden would be “lifelike or realistic representations.” Do not look at it. Keep walking.
• The low rumbling that comes from the base of Amelia Earhart is normal. (This is #12 on your audio guide.) Only if the low rumbling is accompanied by a faint tapping sound, as if someone is trying to find a way out of a hollow, metal container, should you begin to make your way out of the garden — not hastily, but not haltingly, either, and always keeping Amelia to your left.
• If Clara Barton’s jaw unhinges and she begins to speak, plug your ears any way you can. Do not make your way toward Clara Barton, no matter what she says to you.
• There is a stone that marks the northwest corner of the National Garden. Familiarize yourself with the location of this stone. Some nights, the stone looks like Daniel Boone, and another garden will appear to extend indefinitely beyond him. Do not walk into that garden, even if it seems to contain Betsy Ross and you have always wanted to see Betsy Ross. You have not always wanted to see Betsy Ross. There is nothing there for you.
• It is normal if when you leave the garden, you don’t remember the face of the Warrior Against International Socialism. You will see it only once again, at the moment before your death.
• THERE IS ONLY ONE JOHN ADAMS STATUE! If you see the Other John Adams, TAKE IMMEDIATE ACTION. Walk as quickly as you can to the sculpture of Antonin Scalia and touch its robe, unless the statue is holding up its hand. If so, turn and make your way to Audie Murphy. Be sure, before you visit the garden, to familiarize yourself with how Audie Murphy should and should not look. Only walk toward Audie Murphy. If you can’t remember Audie Murphy’s face, take the penny from your pocket and look at the head. The head will be Audie Murphy. If there is no head, take the Bill of Rights from your pocket and read it aloud, slowly, however long it is, and whether or not it contains rights that you do not remember. If you come to the Mars resolution, you have gone too far.
• Some nights Alexander Hamilton is Lin-Manuel Miranda. It’s fine.
• This should go without saying, but Orville and Wilbur Wright should not be holding James Madison three feet aloft with their metal faces distorted into expressions of triumph, but if they are, do not be alarmed. The statue of Booker T. Washington will be along shortly to sort things out.
• If you hear the whistle of a lonesome train, run as quickly as you can to the feet of Harriet Beecher Stowe. If you get there before the whistle blows a second time, Stowe will show you America as it ought to be, but if you get there by the third whistle, you will only see America as it is, and the vision will break you.
• If the statue of Columbus is there, walk rapidly to the exit of the National Garden of American Heroes. The statue of Columbus is allowed to be there, but it is not supposed to be there.
• If you stand too close to Henry Clay, when you try to step away from him, you will be unable to move. There is nothing to do then but to accept your fate. In the morning, the National Garden of American Heroes will contain an unidentified Pioneer. The contents of your pockets will be in a neat pile next to it. All records of your human existence will have vanished — save the hint of a smirk on Henry Clay’s lips.
• The site is near only one major population center for a reason.
• That is not the Marquis de Lafayette.


Ninurta fucked around with this message at 06:40 on Jul 8, 2020

Everyone
Sep 6, 2019

by sebmojo

Ninurta posted:

It is normal if when you leave the garden, you don’t remember the face of the Warrior Against International Socialism. You will see it only once again, at the moment before your death.

If the statue of Columbus is there, walk rapidly to the exit of the National Garden of American Heroes. The statue of Columbus is allowed to be there, but it is not supposed to be there.

drat, I want to subscribe to the Washington Post to just read that piece now. I won't, but I kind of want to.

Meanwhile, Holy poo poo, Butcher.com put Chapter 6 up. I figured it was done at Chapter Five, but I guess not. I have to be at work in a little over seven hour and need to get to bed, but, nope, guess I'll read that chapter first. drat you, Butcher.

Everyone fucked around with this message at 04:27 on Jul 8, 2020

The_Doctor
Mar 29, 2007

"The entire history of this incarnation is one of temporal orbits, retcons, paradoxes, parallel time lines, reiterations, and divergences. How anyone can make head or tail of all this chaos, I don't know."
That WP piece has some extreme Night Vale ‘do not look at the Dog Park’ vibes, and is great.

Beachcomber
May 21, 2007

Another day in paradise.


Slippery Tilde
I envy the patience required to read a book piecemeal over weeks instead of needing to devour it all at once. It's like eating a sundae one spoonful per day.

Some Pinko Commie
Jun 9, 2009

CNC! Easy as 1️⃣2️⃣3️⃣!

Everyone posted:

drat, I want to subscribe to the Washington Post to just read that piece now. I won't, but I kind of want to.

Meanwhile, Holy poo poo, Butcher.com put Chapter 6 up. I figured it was done at Chapter Five, but I guess not. I have to be at work in a little over seven hour and need to get to bed, but, nope, guess I'll read that chapter first. drat you, Butcher.

What a surprise, more White Court bullshit and cringe writing about how much Jim Butcher Dresden wants to gently caress Lara and/or Mab. :chloe:

So,

Ninurta posted:

The second book of Craig Schaefer's Charlie McCabe series dropped today on my Kindle, that was a pleasant surprise.

I completely missed this series. Holy poo poo that guy is writing all kinds of stuff.

Angry Lobster
May 16, 2011

Served with honor
and some clarified butter.

biracial bear for uncut posted:

What a surprise, more White Court bullshit and cringe writing about how much Jim Butcher Dresden wants to gently caress Lara and/or Mab. :chloe:

Show us on this anatomically correct doll where Jim Butcher Dresden touched you.

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DreamingofRoses
Jun 27, 2013
Nap Ghost
Please stop bitching about/people bitching about Dresden Files.

For anyone who’s been keeping up with October Daye and the synopsis for the new book. I just did a reread.
I’m still almost convinced Marcia and Danny are one of the Three or Firstborn. I’m pretty sure that we’re going to see at least Oberon in this upcoming book given the fact that it’s basically about having to fix Simon. Any ideas on how many more books are supposed to be in the series?

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