Flavius Aetass posted:i think there's been an unspoken ally --> member pipeline through hating muslims that more recently included hating BLM types There's a version of conservatism that could have come out of the early GBW era that basically let socially conservative Catholic Hispanic folks in on the whiteness franchise and formed a new Silent Majority but, for obvious reasons, that never happened.
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I honestly think the GOP would have made a serious effort for American Muslims if it wasn't for 9/11
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Muslims and Hispanics were up for inclusion in the GOP's coalition, but they went all in on racism after 9/11 and Obama so that's out.
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Zeroisanumber posted:Muslims and Hispanics were up for inclusion in the GOP's coalition, but they went all in on racism after 9/11 and Obama so that's out.
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Azathoth posted:There's a version of conservatism that could have come out of the early GBW era that basically let socially conservative Catholic Hispanic folks in on the whiteness franchise and formed a new Silent Majority but, for obvious reasons, that never happened.
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# ? Jul 8, 2020 18:39 |
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StashAugustine posted:I honestly think the GOP would have made a serious effort for American Muslims if it wasn't for 9/11 even before 9/11 it would've been a pretty tall order getting evangelicals on board with the ppl of the "moon god" but i guess a sufficiently anti-abortion muslim might have gotten a pass Azathoth posted:There's a version of conservatism that could have come out of the early GBW era that basically let socially conservative Catholic Hispanic folks in on the whiteness franchise and formed a new Silent Majority but, for obvious reasons, that never happened. it's also the road map from the GOP's "post-mortem" of the 2012 election, guess they had some difficulties with their base putting that into practice
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# ? Jul 8, 2020 18:51 |
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Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:even before 9/11 it would've been a pretty tall order getting evangelicals on board with the ppl of the "moon god" but i guess a sufficiently anti-abortion muslim might have gotten a pass They love Trump, who mocks their faith weekly right to their loving faces and was a democrat for 3/4 of his life.
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# ? Jul 8, 2020 19:20 |
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https://twitter.com/jaredlholt/status/1280934980051513348
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# ? Jul 8, 2020 19:56 |
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:They love Trump, who mocks their faith weekly right to their loving faces and was a democrat for 3/4 of his life. yea-- bc he wants to ban muslims and brown ppl, and he supports their end-times obsession with israel and right-wing zionism. i'm not saying they couldn't do it using abortion and social issue poo poo, but it was never going to be easy
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# ? Jul 8, 2020 20:10 |
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qanon people rule https://twitter.com/Mirkked/status/1280427433196433409 https://twitter.com/Ntornee/status/1280487219329994753
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# ? Jul 8, 2020 20:14 |
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They love Trump because he's a balls out white supremacist and they're a polite white supremacist social club who sit around grumbling about how they're not allowed to be balls out about it. Sure there's a few weirdos in there who emphasize the "polite" enough that they could envision welcoming Mexican Catholics and Culturally aligned Muslims into the BBQ but yeah, that was always gonna be a heavy lift for a party who's so used to leading them around with red meat and not asking for much in return besides votes.
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# ? Jul 8, 2020 20:15 |
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ah yes that classic evolution defender..... *checks notes* uh....the vatican
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# ? Jul 8, 2020 20:17 |
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Antifa Turkeesian posted:They love Trump, who mocks their faith weekly right to their loving faces and was a democrat for 3/4 of his life. Ague Proof posted:Dave Rubin
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# ? Jul 8, 2020 20:18 |
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Do archaeologists typically dress like workers laying ground cables?
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# ? Jul 8, 2020 20:21 |
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Halloween Jack posted:Show me a "classical liberal" and I'll show you a fascist who's barely smart enough to lie about it.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:ah yes that classic evolution defender.....
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# ? Jul 8, 2020 20:23 |
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Heath posted:Do archaeologists typically dress like workers laying ground cables?
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# ? Jul 8, 2020 20:27 |
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Intel&Sebastian posted:ah yes that classic evolution defender..... The Church is more or less alright with evolution nowadays (well, evolution guided by God at least), although I'm guessing the anti-Vatican II crowd disagrees.
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# ? Jul 8, 2020 20:28 |
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:qanon people rule so wait their problem with evolution is that it theorizes we evolved from apes instead of from giants?
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# ? Jul 8, 2020 20:30 |
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Heath posted:Do archaeologists typically dress like workers laying ground cables? There's no real uniform but depending on the site you might be wearing a high vis vest like that.
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# ? Jul 8, 2020 20:34 |
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# ? Jul 8, 2020 20:36 |
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:qanon people rule
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# ? Jul 8, 2020 20:36 |
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flat earthers dont believe in trees? this is a new and wonderful one for me
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# ? Jul 8, 2020 20:38 |
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Why would the tree stump be from a civilization. Did they build trees. Do these people not know what "civilization" means.
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# ? Jul 8, 2020 20:42 |
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:qanon people rule this is all true US troops in afghanistan were literally fighting man eating giants near the afghan/chinese boarder Grape posted:Why would the tree stump be from a civilization. Did they build trees. someone had to cut the tree down right?
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# ? Jul 8, 2020 20:55 |
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Sheng-Ji Yang posted:qanon people rule Question, is the punisher skull in the profile pic a normal sized one or an ancient giant skull
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# ? Jul 8, 2020 21:07 |
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I wish I lived in their world -- it seems a lot cooler than ours.
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# ? Jul 8, 2020 21:23 |
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https://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/status/1280652554095951873
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# ? Jul 8, 2020 21:45 |
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Zeroisanumber posted:Muslims and Hispanics were up for inclusion in the GOP's coalition, but they went all in on racism after 9/11 and Obama so that's out. They would have tried, but it's hard to say if they would have gotten any traction. Political coalitions based primarily on exclusion have a lot of resistance to absorbing new groups. Unless they join at a lower rung than the established members, it's nearly impossible to do even if necessary to avoid destruction.
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Hodgepodge posted:They would have tried, but it's hard to say if they would have gotten any traction. Political coalitions based primarily on exclusion have a lot of resistance to absorbing new groups. Unless they join at a lower rung than the established members, it's nearly impossible to do even if necessary to avoid destruction. I think Muslims had a better shot since they're a much smaller minority so theres less of an immigration panic, at least in the US
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 01:14 |
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FMguru posted:Classical Liberal is one of those eternally-shifting names that libertarians call themselves (I'm a minarchist no wait I'm an anarcho-capitalist no actually I'm an Objectivist no really I'm a classical liberal no in fact I'm a libertarian well im more of a "socially liberal but fiscally conservative" person etc. etc. etc.)
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isn't "socially liberal but fiscally conservative" the definition of an actual (non-pepe) libertarian? e: one of the definitions, the other one being "my girlfriend shouldn't have to use a car seat" goatsestretchgoals has issued a correction as of 02:49 on Jul 9, 2020 |
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Feldegast42 posted:I wish I lived in their world -- it seems a lot cooler than ours. Yes but they somehow think that giants and dragons existing proves their entrenched social hierarchies for some reason. Giants are proof that gays aren't real.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 02:57 |
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People rope Catholics into all sorts of weird, dire plots but the truth is they're so, so boring. Just regular old dull-rear end people.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 03:07 |
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but I thought all of the classical liberals were a lock for biden... whats going on????
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 03:38 |
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miniscule12 posted:Yes but they somehow think that giants and dragons existing proves their entrenched social hierarchies for some reason. Creationist archeologist discovers some love giants, brings them before an Evangelical congress, the crowd is shocked as the giants engage in the likes of sodomy seem only on macrofetish deviantart.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 03:49 |
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im gonna be objectivist here.... what?
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Halloween Jack posted:I used to think this way, but Trump's election made me finally realize that the faith of American evangelicals is God = Capitalism = America. Trump panders to evangelicals in every way that matters. Trump is the logical conclusion of the Prosperity Gospel, i.e. if you're a good Christian then God rewards you materially. So therefore if God rewarded Trump materially then he must be a good Christian.
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# ? Jul 9, 2020 06:18 |
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Azathoth posted:Trump is the logical conclusion of the Prosperity Gospel, i.e. if you're a good Christian then God rewards you materially. So therefore if God rewarded Trump materially then he must be a good Christian. Also: everything that is is God's plan, therefore Tromp being President is part of God's plan, and who are you to question God's plan? Weirdly, that logic didn't apply to President Obama.
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StashAugustine posted:I think Muslims had a better shot since they're a much smaller minority so theres less of an immigration panic, at least in the US i mean plus the foreign policy people all loved the salafis for a long time. (unclear whether the foreign policy and domestic portions of the government ever communicate though.)
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