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Bust Rodd posted:Look I know this an unpopular opinion more and more but straight up kids don’t need smartphones until they are old enough to pay for it themselves. Buy them Nokia burners from Wal*Mart so they can call and text their friends and parents or whatever but part of being a good parent moving forward has to be limiting your kids time online. Cyber Bullying literally never stops, and kids today are dumber than ever. Educators in High Schools have all but given up on fighting kids to get off their phones in class. I know I sound like an old man yelling at clouds but consider the fact that every tech billionaire from Steve Jobs to the Google guys to Bill Gates have extremely strict “no phones/no tablets” households for their own kids, because they see the data and the research and they know what it’s doing to your brain, and how it’s making you addicts to your glowing little square. Sir this is a McDonald's drive thru
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This isn't really the "child-rearing in a digital culture" thread so let's move on, because I feel like blaming children being exploited on their parents allowing screentime instead of blaming the exploiters and groomers is kind of grimy.ImpAtom posted:Novels rotted your brain and made you addicted. My favorite permutation of this was this 18th century murder trial where a bohemian kind of arts-adjacent guy killed a few people and the narrative was "he read so many fictional tales that he forgot that he wasn't a fictional character and just went berserk." The anti-novel hysteria is so fascinating.
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Jordan7hm posted:Also lol if you think taking away your 16 year old’s phone is going to be the thing that prevents them from loving, if they want to gently caress. No one is concerned about "16 year olds loving", the problem is abusers exploiting the emotional vulnerabilities of said teens to control, groom and assault them.
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How Wonderful! posted:so let's move on
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Has anyone outed Mike Mignola as a Bad Person yet  I love Hellboy
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Has anyone outed Mike Mignola as a Bad Person yet Not to my knowledge.
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Has anyone outed Mike Mignola as a Bad Person yet
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:Has anyone outed Mike Mignola as a Bad Person yet So far the worst anyone has said is that he didn't speak up about lovely behavior (which is true of what seems to be a large majority of comic creators but that doesn't excuse it.)
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Guy Davis doesn't say anything nice in this tweet: https://twitter.com/GuyDavisART/status/1276228339942985737?s=20 quote:I quit the series in 2011 because of the toxic behavior of Allie, Mignola, Arcudi and cut all contact. Arcudi has talked about having bad blood with Mignola and DH over the 2019 movie and royalties, not sure who's in the right there and am having trouble finding any articles (other than a Reddit post linking to a deleted tweet).
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ImpAtom posted:So far the worst anyone has said is that he didn't speak up about lovely behavior (which is true of what seems to be a large majority of comic creators but that doesn't excuse it.)
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Mignola definitely looked the other way on Allie, and continued to work with him long after the first biting allegations came out.
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Threep posted:Allie was one of Mignola's main collaborators and continued to be so until the latest allegations. It's not like they're just two guys working in the same industry like you're trying to present it. Yeah, I phrased it super bad. I am sorry. You are 100% correct
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Yea its a bit different if you're working for a guy who is a creep, because you either risk sacrifiing your career to outsomeone, or you stay quiet and hopefully get enough clout that you can come out against them in the future. It would probably help a lot if comics wasn't such an old boys network.
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I think a big issue is that there are so few publishers you can realistically work for. You've got DC, Marvel, then I guess Image, and then a bunch of very small companies that mostly serve tiny niches using movie IPs that have fallen by the wayside. If there were more options for steady employment people wouldn't be scared of saying the wrong thing about the wrong man and getting blackballed. That's not really as much of a concern for people in say... novels.
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A complaint I've seen from the Ellis revaluations is that there isn't a standard process for getting into comics like there is with novels. It's all about knowing someone who knows someone. Or working alone for years to build up one's own audience, but may as well just do your own thing at that point.
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Lurdiak posted:I think a big issue is that there are so few publishers you can realistically work for. You've got DC, Marvel, then I guess Image, and then a bunch of very small companies that mostly serve tiny niches using movie IPs that have fallen by the wayside. If there were more options for steady employment people wouldn't be scared of saying the wrong thing about the wrong man and getting blackballed. That's not really as much of a concern for people in say... novels. This isn't to dismiss anyone's pain or trauma, but I bet there's as many skeletons in Harpers or whoever's closet as (Jesus Christ could they have picked a more indicting name) Dark Horse.
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Skwirl posted:This isn't to dismiss anyone's pain or trauma, but I bet there's as many skeletons in Harpers or whoever's closet as (Jesus Christ could they have picked a more indicting name) Dark Horse. From High Fever Books: quote:I had my own room at their house, which I stayed in at least 1-2 nights a week. We stayed up late watching horror movies, Sandra and I would eat cake from the 24hr bakery at midnight, then in the morning I’d have coffee and oatmeal with Brett, before heading into the living room to start my work day. I’d spend mornings sleeping off a hangover after parties or events, then we’d talk about the people from the night before over lunch. They told me they loved me, they called me their daughter, they said I was family. And I really thought I was. quote:And so I continued to just sit, and listen, with an uncomfortable smile pasted on my face, when I was hit on by male authors more than 15 years my senior. I smiled when hanging out with the inner circle and they made jokes about my body. I grimaced when one of the authors caressed my rear end in full view of all my colleagues in the crowded con suite, but didn’t move away. I dressed accordingly at events when Sandra told me the only thing that mattered was “tits and teeth”. I nervously laughed along with everyone else when I was the only woman in a room full of men, and one of them started making rape jokes about me.
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That's absolutely an issue in poetry as well, not even counting the unsavory history of The Poetry Foundation.
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quote:I had my own room at their house, which I stayed in at least 1-2 nights a week. We stayed up late watching horror movies, Sandra and I would eat cake from the 24hr bakery at midnight, then in the morning I’d have coffee and oatmeal with Brett, before heading into the living room to start my work day. I’d spend mornings sleeping off a hangover after parties or events, then we’d talk about the people from the night before over lunch. They told me they loved me, they called me their daughter, they said I was family. And I really thought I was. because that's the kind of language you want in a professional environment, right? jesus wept
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Skwirl posted:This isn't to dismiss anyone's pain or trauma, but I bet there's as many skeletons in Harpers or whoever's closet as (Jesus Christ could they have picked a more indicting name) Dark Horse. A dark horse is an unknown competitor that pulls off a surprise victory. I've never heard the phrase used in any other way. Can you explain what is "indicting" about saying "we're not the Big Two but we're going to succeed"?
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I've hear the Young Adult novel genre is a nightmare to work for in general, not just from the publishers, but also other authors just being poo poo people.
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There's a good summary of the endless comics industry shitbirdery at the Daily Beast today. Inside the Comic Book Industry’s Sexual Misconduct Crisis—and the Ugly, Exploitative History That Got It Here quote:Harassers don’t simply prey on those made vulnerable by precarity: they actively make the spaces and institutions they inhabit more precarious, and keep workers disorganized and afraid to the company’s financial benefit. Think of it, if you like, as grooming on a grand scale: the cultivation of a workforce that can be trusted to go along with sexual and economic exploitation—to grin through clenched teeth, to say nothing out of fear—and drive out those who can’t.
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SoManyOfUs.com is live, a website documenting Ellis’s 20 years of abuse (CW for sexual abuse, gaslighting, etc). 60+ people sharing stories of how Ellis abused them, as well as helpful resources.
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Good extensive email about Ellis. https://www.theguardian.com/books/2020/jul/13/women-speak-out-about-warren-ellis-transmetropolitan quote:These women do not accuse Ellis of illegal behaviour. But they describe their shock at the sheer magnitude of his pursuits, feeling heartbroken when he stopped talking to them, or angry after discovering he was sending many of them identical messages. What they want now is to start a conversation about how men with power and influence treat young women as part of a culture of impunity granted to celebrities – and not merely those who appear in Hollywood blockbusters or play Madison Square Garden.
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Anora posted:I've hear the Young Adult novel genre is a nightmare to work for in general, not just from the publishers, but also other authors just being poo poo people. Follow literally any YA author on Twitter and you will see this is the case Then immediately unfollow them because they're all Chuck Wendig-level terrible posters
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Clipperton posted:Follow literally any YA author on Twitter and you will see this is the case Except for rick riordan, who seems very good.
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Jordan7hm posted:Except for rick riordan, who seems very good. Good point, anyone who made their bones pre-Twitter is generally a lot better, with a few spectacular exceptions (Rowling lol) e: better posters that is, they're probably still all predators Clipperton fucked around with this message at 17:45 on Jul 13, 2020 |
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bunnyofdoom posted:What about KA Applegate? Oh God, what did she do
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Emily Duncan seems pretty chill. Mostly she tweets about her writing/editing process, books she's read and liked, and music.
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Clipperton posted:Oh God, what did she do Nothing, she’s cool as hell.
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Applegate has mentioned being pro-trans/pro-queer. I think her daughter is trans.
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Squidster posted:There's a good summary of the endless comics industry shitbirdery at the Daily Beast today. This is devastating. It connects a bunch of factors I knew about in this messed up industry to things I hadn't. It's a well argued systemic explanation of the problems.
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Ben Garrison is suing the anti-defamation league, because https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/17344321/1/garrison-v-anti-defamation-league/
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Fangz posted:Ben Garrison is suing the anti-defamation league, because Is Garrison representing himself, or did a lawyer actually have to type that out with a straight face?
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bunnyofdoom posted:What about KA Applegate? Applegate owns https://twitter.com/MatthewPCrowley/status/1202981992058540032?s=20
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Tsilkani posted:Is Garrison representing himself, or did a lawyer actually have to type that out with a straight face? He has the same lawyer Devin Nunes (R-CA 22) used to sue the Twitter account pretending to be his cow.
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Does anyone know what’s going on with Gail Simone and her alleged ‘whisper network’? I’ve got an acquaintance in discord that’s been going on today about how trash she for using it to ‘cancel male comic writers’ but the only site I can find talking about it is Bleeding Fool and, well, they’re not getting clicks from me. Is this some stupid new conspiracy bullshit I’ve missed?
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