goddamnedtwisto posted:

Did this last night but it's imperfect for a couple of reasons (in particular it double-counts if there's more than one embed in a post, and also counts quotes of posts with embeds), but it can give you a flavour:

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Did this last night but it's imperfect for a couple of reasons (in particular it double-counts if there's more than one embed in a post, and also counts quotes of posts with embeds), but it can give you a flavour:

sebzilla posted:

Do a chart of Monster Munch Mentions over time (also individual flavours, coloured appropriately)

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

now do the same but as a stacked chart colour coded by poster

(sorry you're my chart slave now)

peanut- posted:

So are we double counted into the EU line or what?

quote:

Pillar 1 testing data is widely available, generated from testing at hospitals. But Pillar 2 data, derived from drive-through testing centres and at-home testing kits harvested by commercial laboratories, have not been made available to the public or been included the UK’s Government’s own reporting.

Despite obvious concerns over transparency, this did not cause a problem in the early stages of the UK outbreak when the vast majority of testing was carried out a hospital sites, painting a relatively clear picture of the number of cases. Now, three months since lockdown was imposed, the majority of testing is conducted at home or in drive-through centres.

So these Pillar 2 data become essential in order for regional authorities to identify and act on any spike in prevalence of the virus. Despite the requests of regional health teams since the beginning of May, these data were not provided by government. MP for Normanton, Pontefract and Castleford, Yvette Cooper, tweeted: “Our local public health teams, council, NHS doctors & managers in Wakefield have had to fight for months to try to get this data. In public health crisis, most important thing is knowing where infection is. Appalling & incomprehensible that basic info hasn’t been provided”

In the Pillar 1 data for Leicester, there were 80 cases confirmed between 13 and 26 June. When the Pillar 2 data is also taken into account, the true number of confirmed cases turns out to be 944.

LordVorbis posted:

I wanna see a word cloud. I like those.

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Did this last night but it's imperfect for a couple of reasons (in particular it double-counts if there's more than one embed in a post, and also counts quotes of posts with embeds), but it can give you a flavour:

quote:

The same situation has also been seen in Manchester. With their access requests to Pillar 2 data denied, local officials worked on the assumption that there were 78 Pillar 1 cases in the city. The Pillar 2 data show the true figure was six times higher at 465.

Machester Mayor Andy Burnham called the figure a “warning sign to look at very carefully indeed,” adding: “It can’t be the case that we’re back to normal. We’re not. There’s a large amount of this virus circulating in Greater Manchester.”

These concerns are further compounded by the earlier revelation that Deloitte, the contract holder with the UK Government which runs COVID-19 test centres across the country, is not required under its terms to share its findings with public health bodies.

In response to a parliamentary question tabled on 19 May, Minister for Mental Health, Suicide, Prevention and Patient Safety, Nadine Dorries confirmed this on 11 June: “The contract with Deloitte does not require the company to report positive cases to Public Health England and local authorities.”

LordVorbis posted:

I wanna see a word cloud. I like those.

Private Speech posted:

Pretty sure the data is slightly bollocks given:

UK Government accused of withholding Pillar 2 COVID-19 data which show Leicester had 10 times more cases than reported pre-lockdown


And, you know, the whole whistleblower thing posted some dozen or so posts ago.

Darth Walrus posted:

We can reasonably assume most of the other poorly-performing countries have data that's similarly bollocks or worse, though.

JeremoudCorbynejad posted:

been a while since we checked in with our good friend the FT covid graph, let's see ho--



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SpaceCommie posted:

I'm a mere few hours away from my first proper lengthy time off work since I started my PhD in 2014.

I've been a postdoc working on computational biology for the last 2 and a half years.

I've got so many video games to play, boardgame figures to paint ...

Why do I want to spend the whole 17 days making UKMT graphs in R?

goddamnedtwisto posted:

I did one, it was boring. I need to work out how to do one of those ones that highlights words used more often than in general discourse, which might be a bit more interesting (and maybe do it per-year, or maybe per-quarter, to trace how things change) but this is just something I'm doing to break the doomscroll when I've got downtime so I wouldn't hold my breath.

Angepain posted:

i love how the uk has managed to avoid things going completely uncontrolled but is still close to if not the worst of the plateauing countries

it's the slogan of the uk, "As Crap As Possible While Still Managing Some Kind Of Stabiliy"

buffeh posted:

Hi UKMT, I don't really post but have followed the UK threads for years and definitely think more correctly than I used to because of them . Politically, I now identify as Depressed Socialist.

Hopefully someone can either tell me what I want to hear or talk some sense into me....

Would it be a terrible idea to go on holiday at the end of this month? Specifically, to a UK location, the Isles of Scilly just off the coast of Cornwall. It's the only holiday my wife and I go on every year, and we can only afford to go because my parents rent a cottage there every year for their holiday, and let us tag along for a mates rates rental cost contribution (it's really expensive there!)

We'd written off the idea of going this year, and my parents had actually cancelled the rental, but then they restarted the ferry service to the islands (as of 4th July) and started opening everything up again, so my mum excitedly rebooked the cottage again (she's been pretty good about staying home during the pandemic, but like many people she's starting to think everything is ok now due to the government messaging / open-er-up policies)

The Islands haven't had any confirmed cases of Covid during the pandemic, but I'm not sure that'll remain true once they start letting tourists back on.... sometimes I'm not sure the locals like the tourists much anyway, I expect they'll like us even less if we come over spreading disease....

Either way my parents are going with or without us, I'm mostly just asking for other viewpoints as my wife is pretty broken up about not getting to go. Yeah in the grand scheme of things it's not really a big deal (and we'll save money by not going), but she's had a tough year with health issues (eyesight related, not covid), so it's just one more thing, ya know? She's only left the house twice since March, and I've hardly been out except to pick up prescriptions and occasional food shop, so we've otherwise been very bunkered down this whole time.

Thanks all

buffeh posted:

buffeh posted:

Hi UKMT, I don't really post but have followed the UK threads for years and definitely think more correctly than I used to because of them . Politically, I now identify as Depressed Socialist.

Hopefully someone can either tell me what I want to hear or talk some sense into me....

Would it be a terrible idea to go on holiday at the end of this month? Specifically, to a UK location, the Isles of Scilly just off the coast of Cornwall. It's the only holiday my wife and I go on every year, and we can only afford to go because my parents rent a cottage there every year for their holiday, and let us tag along for a mates rates rental cost contribution (it's really expensive there!)

We'd written off the idea of going this year, and my parents had actually cancelled the rental, but then they restarted the ferry service to the islands (as of 4th July) and started opening everything up again, so my mum excitedly rebooked the cottage again (she's been pretty good about staying home during the pandemic, but like many people she's starting to think everything is ok now due to the government messaging / open-er-up policies)

The Islands haven't had any confirmed cases of Covid during the pandemic, but I'm not sure that'll remain true once they start letting tourists back on.... sometimes I'm not sure the locals like the tourists much anyway, I expect they'll like us even less if we come over spreading disease....

Either way my parents are going with or without us, I'm mostly just asking for other viewpoints as my wife is pretty broken up about not getting to go. Yeah in the grand scheme of things it's not really a big deal (and we'll save money by not going), but she's had a tough year with health issues (eyesight related, not covid), so it's just one more thing, ya know? She's only left the house twice since March, and I've hardly been out except to pick up prescriptions and occasional food shop, so we've otherwise been very bunkered down this whole time.

Thanks all

quote:

It also underscores that Brussels has no intention of phasing in border controls, an approach favoured by the British government. From 1 January 2021, customs officers in EU member states are expected to carry out full controls, which are “likely to lead to increased administrative burdens for businesses and longer delivery times in logistical supply chains,” the commission said. These controls will apply even if the EU and UK are successful in agreeing a trade deal that sets tariffs at zero, with no limits on quantities of exports and imports.

As Barnier has long trailed, British financial firms in the City of London will lose the “passports” that allow them to sell services in the rest of the union.

As well as losing their right to live, work and travel freely in the 27-country zone, British nationals will also face “thorough checks” at the border and cannot stay for more than 90 days in any 180-day period.

Travellers will no longer be assured protection under EU passenger rights law that guarantees some compensation, nor will they have sure access to reduced roaming rates, while cats, dogs and other domestic animals will be stripped of the EU pet passport.

OwlFancier posted:

I wonder if it's just showing its age but I can't help but feel this is describing a thing that I don't think exists and also drawing absolutely terrible conclusions and suggestions from it.

Cerv posted:

Over the last few pages here I think everyone posting about the £1k bonus has also said it’s poo poo. So do you want to expand on your thinking at all?
Apols if I’ve skimmed over and missed anyone actually saying it was good

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Hey remember the salt-of-the-earth working-class soundbite machine in the Graun?

https://twitter.com/helenpidd/status/1235293783975219202

peanut- posted:

I just had a random awful flashback to when Jeremy Corbyn mispronouncing Jeffrey Epstein's name was a scandal.

thespaceinvader posted:

For a converse view: no matter how careful you are, there is always a risk.

This is an island with presumably, a really limited and not-brilliant medical system, and at a guess, an aging population.

It's relatively unlikely that on your drive and boat(? or flight?) to the island, you will contract the disease. But there is a meaningful chance that you do, or that you arrive with viable virus particles on your clothes or hair from stops you cannot help but make on the way.

But if you do, you run a very real risk of killing 10% of the population of the island.

I know how much it sucks staying at home. I've not been off my property except to go shopping and do the bins since March. My wife has only been into the garden since then, because she's vulnerable, and shielding.

Every little bit hurts. Every tiny bit of risk increases the chance that something catastrophic happens.

You wouldn't want that on your conscience. WOuld you?

Private Speech posted:

How do you get a citizenship without knowing English (or being filthy rich, but somehow I don't think that's the case here)?

you don't

peanut- posted:

I've have quite a few third-generation immigrant Asian friends whose grandparents (particularly grandmothers) have been in the UK for 50-60 years and can't speak English.

Who gives a gently caress, their kids and grandkids are completely "integrated", whatever that means.

Noxville posted:

Love how we’re further relaxing lockdown without even waiting to see what effect the last one had

Private Speech posted:

But then how does she know they're voting Labour? Is there a nonverbal sign I'm missing.

Private Speech posted:

But then how does she know they're voting Labour? Is there a nonverbal sign I'm missing.