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https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/hearthstone/t/176-balance-updates/36815 Dragonqueen Alexstrasza Old: Battlecry: If your deck has no duplicates, add 2 other random Dragons to your hand. They cost (0). → New: Battlecry: If your deck has no duplicates, add 2 other random Dragons to your hand. They cost (1). Corsair Cache Old: Draw a weapon. Give it +1/+1. → New: Draw a weapon. Give it +1 Durability. Metamorphosis Old: Swap your Hero Power to “Deal 5 damage.” After 2 uses, swap it back. → New: Swap your Hero Power to “Deal 4 damage.” After 2 uses, swap it back. Kayn Sunfury Old: 3 Attack, 5 Health → New: 3 Attack, 4 Health. Warglaives of Azzinoth Old: [Cost 5] → New: [Cost 6]. Dragoncaster Old: [Cost 6] → New: [Cost 7]. Fungal Fortunes Old: [Cost 2] → New: [Cost 3]. Galakrond, the Nightmare Old: Battlecry: Draw 1 card. It costs (0). → New: Battlecry: Draw 1 card. It costs (1). Galakrond, the Apocalypse (Rogue) Old: Battlecry: Draw 2 cards. It costs (0). → New: Battlecry: Draw 2 cards. They cost (1). Galakrond, Azeroth’s End (Rogue) Old: Battlecry: Draw 4 cards. It costs (0). → New: Battlecry: Draw 4 cards. They cost (1). We have some Battlegrounds updates planned for the near future as well. Stay tuned! Quotey fucked around with this message at 18:33 on Jul 9, 2020 |
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top of page so noone will notice i got beat yes! gently caress you dragonqueen! finally!
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Jul 9, 2020 18:08
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Hah congrats to umberwing and the satyr for being the Last DH cards standing nerfwise
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Jul 9, 2020 18:12
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it seems to me that a lot of bullshit has "something costs 0" somewhere in the description of how it happens. if you ask me, just make a blanket rule that a card that costs at least 1 can't have its cost permanently lowered below 1, and change everything that permanently sets a card's cost to 0 to 1 instead, like wondrous wand. (things like kalecgos or kael'thas that set costs to 0 but are somehow limited are fine, imo.) but regardless, good changes.
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Jul 9, 2020 18:14
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Blasmeister posted:Hah congrats to umberwing and the satyr for being the Last DH cards standing nerfwise I mean the Kayn nerf is kind of silly but yeah great job to the DH design team on all the fair and balanced cards
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Jul 9, 2020 18:19
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This is the most blatantly obvious "we need to make absolutely sure the next set sells and replaces current deck archetypes" set of nerfs lol
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Jul 9, 2020 18:20
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Blasmeister posted:Hah congrats to umberwing and the satyr for being the Last DH cards standing nerfwise spectral sight and chaos strike too!
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Jul 9, 2020 18:21
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Woah man that's brutal. And also good until August expansion kills it again, but also brutal.
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Jul 9, 2020 18:22
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With the dq:a nerf I wonder if it’ll be time to dust off duplicates dragon hunter
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Jul 9, 2020 18:25
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Firebert posted:spectral sight and chaos strike too! Those cards only made it into the deck after other nerfs to the originals so they don’t count to me Rogue Galakrond gonna feel real bad every time it draws a backstab
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Jul 9, 2020 18:29
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New VS too: https://www.vicioussyndicate.com/vs-data-reaper-report-168/ Shows that more DH nerfs are needed if anyone needed convincing
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Jul 9, 2020 18:32
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AnacondaHL posted:This is the most blatantly obvious "we need to make absolutely sure the next set sells and replaces current deck archetypes" set of nerfs lol I don't think you're wrong, but reining back the overall power level of the game is good even if it originates from a greedy capitalist outlook. better than the flipside option of buffing the poo poo out of the next set.
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Jul 9, 2020 18:34
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im convinced blizz releases nerfs during VS reports now
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Jul 9, 2020 18:34
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quote:Skull of Gul'dan They've almost literally had to nerf an entire deck's worth of DH cards at this point.
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Jul 9, 2020 18:35
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Hell yeah some more dust.
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Jul 9, 2020 18:54
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Firebert posted:https://twitter.com/Celestalon/status/1281272777211645952 God dammit gala rogue is the only deck I have. Oh well i guess I'll dust it (+ the DQA I randomly pulled, having no other cards to actually build a Highlander deck out of).
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Jul 9, 2020 19:00
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Why the nerf to Fungal Fortunes? No buffs for Libram (or any other kind of) Paladin 
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Jul 9, 2020 19:22
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Torrannor posted:Why the nerf to Fungal Fortunes? If Paladin can just get some draw or buff support or something to supplement the libram package in a general sense it might actually do well. Maybe some sort of paladin zentimo or drawing a card for each buff applied this turn. Or maybe an avenging wrath tied to buffs in a turn.
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Jul 9, 2020 19:47
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Torrannor posted:Why the nerf to Fungal Fortunes? I’m getting the impression that they wanted to do 2 things with this round of nerfs: Nerf DH again because it obviously needs to be. Make the format as a whole a little bit slower. Notice how even Highlander Mage and Galakrond Rogue are getting nerfs even though at no time since Outland’s release were they the best decks. This might be an attempt to make Paladin/Shaman even remotely relevant and/or address power creep in general.
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Jul 9, 2020 19:53
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Given the mage and rogue nerfs out of nowhere, I'm wondering if there are cards coming up in the new expansion that would render them excessively powerful, kind of like Divine Favor got nerfed for the RoS secret synergy. Fan of the nerfs though.
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Jul 9, 2020 20:28
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Come to think of it, aren’t we also just about due for the next expansion announcement?
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Jul 9, 2020 21:21
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Regalingualius posted:Come to think of it, aren’t we also just about due for the next expansion announcement? Overdue! The announcement for Uldum was July 1st 2019.
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Jul 9, 2020 21:29
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The list of Demon Hunter cards nerfed/nerfed because of Demon Hunter existing is insane Skull of Gul'dan Imprisoned Antaen Eye Beam Aldrachi Warblades Altruis the Outcast Battlefiend Glaivebound Adept Priestess of Fury Crimson Sigil Runner Twin Slice Metamorphosis Kayn Sunfury Warglaives of Azzinoth Sacrificial Pact Frenzied Felwing Kael'thas Sunstrider Ashes of Outland is probably the worst expansion ever made. Imagine if they still had their old philosophy with regards to nerfs, or if Battlegrounds didn't exist! This could've been a game-ender!
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Jul 9, 2020 21:38
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Think I'm gonna use this as an opportunity to cash out of DH and just dust Kayne and metamorphosis. Clearly a powerful class but I've found it boring and one dimensional. It might get better when there's more card variety.
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Jul 9, 2020 21:48
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I’m hesitant about dusting, if only because I’m probably going to spend it all on gimmicky poo poo for Wild. Probably going to keep Dragonqueen, though, because she’s just that good.
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Jul 9, 2020 21:58
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I cannot overstate that whilst it isn’t good, how much I loathe the whole gameplan of Gala Priest. Do loving nothing active until both players have 10 cards left, drop reactive clears until then, mash Gala every turn looking for more. It’s enough to make me want DH and Dragon Hunter to stay, just so this dull poo poo stays in the dumpster. Even when you win you hate the game at the end.
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Jul 9, 2020 23:23
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im just auto conceding on priests now in mid platinum is there a deck for 4000 dust i can craft that will get me to at least diamond 10
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Jul 9, 2020 23:25
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Shockeh posted:I cannot overstate that whilst it isn’t good, how much I loathe the whole gameplan of Gala Priest. Do loving nothing active until both players have 10 cards left, drop reactive clears until then, mash Gala every turn looking for more. On the bright side, people seem to be experimenting with "Cube Priest" to good early results, which runs the Imprisoned units and has a generally fairer board presence gameplan. But if the meta slows down again after these nerfs, yeaaaaa
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Jul 9, 2020 23:34
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Too Many Birds posted:im just auto conceding on priests now in mid platinum dragon face hunter, along these lines
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Jul 9, 2020 23:34
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World War Mammories posted:dragon face hunter, along these lines thats the deck i've been playing 
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Jul 9, 2020 23:41
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play more, get better, go face
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Jul 10, 2020 01:04
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When DH gets nerfed? Me still go face. All these nerfs are fine, Galakrond and Dragoncaster make me scratch my head though. I get they're strong cards but they wouldn't have been in top eight cards that needed tweaking. The Dragoncaster nerf reminded me that Inkmaster was a card so I guess that's something  Don't even really know what to say about DH at this point, other than it probably still won't be the last set of nerfs its initial set sees. Blooming Brilliant fucked around with this message at 01:42 on Jul 10, 2020 |
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Jul 10, 2020 01:36
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Firebert posted:Ashes of Outland is probably the worst expansion ever made. Imagine if they still had their old philosophy with regards to nerfs, or if Battlegrounds didn't exist! This could've been a game-ender! 2-mana, Gain +1 attack and Lifesteal? I don't even know.
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Jul 10, 2020 01:40
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I don't understand the dragoncaster nerf in the slightest.
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L0cke17 posted:I don't understand the dragoncaster nerf in the slightest. E: Also slightly cuts the mana cheat on power of creation/deep freeze but mainly box Tin Tim fucked around with this message at 01:51 on Jul 10, 2020 |
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Jul 10, 2020 01:47
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NorgLyle posted:The longer that it goes on the more convinced I become that Demon Hunter probably shouldn't exist at all. They basically can't print decent neutral aggressive cards any more because anything that they do has to be factored in against 1-mana, +1 attack and everything else that Demon Hunter does at base. If DH didn't have access to weapons and just attack increase cards like Druid, 2 mana +1 attack and Lifesteal would be fine. As is that wouldn't really work since you're effectively making a class that can Leeching Poison whenever (I still have flashbacks to Kingbanes Rogue). It's going to be interesting seeing how DH goes forward. Classes obviously fluctuate and even the best hero power class in the game (Warlock) has been bottom of the barrel. That said I think DH's hero power is far more game warping in terms of design/balance. Any minion with 1 health moving forward is going to have to do something nuts, otherwise it's just easily taken out by DH (Mage and Druid have also been able to do the same since launch, but the difference between 1 and 2 mana is huge).
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Jul 10, 2020 01:50
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Tin Tim posted:Sideway nerf to puzzlebox Fixing what's not broken imo
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Jul 10, 2020 01:58
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DQA, Rogue Galakrond and Dragoncaster were absolutely broken cards.
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Jul 10, 2020 02:03
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Throwing out box on 6 or a turn earlier with the coin is poo poo and deserved some form of nerf The 8 mana spells have less direct impact(outside of creation high-rolls) so them being hit too is an unfortunate side effect Disargeria posted:DQA, Rogue Galakrond and Dragoncaster were absolutely broken cards. 
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Sure, it happens maybe 1 game in 10 max, and often wrecks you in the process since your hand is still full at that point. Puzzlebox mage is hardly a dangerous deck.
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