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That FT article seems to be only focussing on the death rate and completely ignoring the potential long-term chronic illness that even some mild cases are causing. That’s what worries me as a young person, not the death rate.
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Venomous posted:Do you ever feel like becoming SteveMega again, just for shits and giggles Christ no.
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Pantsmaster Bill posted:That FT article seems to be only focussing on the death rate and completely ignoring the potential long-term chronic illness that even some mild cases are causing. That’s what worries me as a young person, not the death rate. It's kinda unknowable atm though, so it's hard to factor in. You might be rightfully worried about it or it might be an extremely rare side effect that you only worry about because of a few overhyped news stories. We just don't have the info to say if either is true.
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Lmao https://twitter.com/brokenbottleboy/status/1281260728041852930?s=19
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Nothingtoseehere posted:It's kinda unknowable atm though, so it's hard to factor in. You might be rightfully worried about it or it might be an extremely rare side effect that you only worry about because of a few overhyped news stories. We just don't have the info to say if either is true. That’s true, but in an article about how people are worried about the virus, focussing purely on deaths seems a bit limited.
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Cool, we're going to run out of water because paying dividends to private equity firms is a much more important than fixing leaks. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/jul/10/parts-of-england-could-run-out-of-water-within-20-years-warn-mps The irony of this is it will end up with nationalised water provision, except the nationalisation will happen at the point of absolute crisis when 40 years of profits have been rinsed out of the industry, the PE firms say "there's no money for repairs we're just going to declare bankruptcy", and the government is forced to step in and pay for it all.
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So I see that this is still a thing, somehow:quote:There were more than 160 cases of sports coaches engaging in sexual activity with a 16- or 17-year-old in their care since 2016, a BBC investigation has found - prompting campaigners to say the law must be changed "urgently". Why does the MoJ even need to review the legislation for something so blatantly awful? And why aren't these sexual predators being fired from their jobs?
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kingturnip posted:So I see that this is still a thing, somehow: 
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Random callback, but I, Bobstar, remember a previous thread where we talked about knock-off Dyson stick hoovers. I got one of these and it's fantastic, not Dyson, cheaper than Dyson, and has a super cool charging station. And 2 batteries. https://uk.tineco.com/products/cordless-vacuums Worth a look if you've suddenly got time to clean, or have just got kittens
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kingturnip posted:Why does the MoJ even need to review the legislation for something so blatantly awful? And why aren't these sexual predators being fired from their jobs? The usual process is that some leftie will propose a bill to make the bad thing illegal, some crypt-keeper tier tory will oppose it, backed up by mates in parliament/the media, it eventually passes after far too long, tories claim credit for it to jubilant praise from the press. Also there's a big thread in the wrasslin' subforum if you want too see how widespread it is in just one niche sporty industry. Edit: gotta love autocorrect chaging "ilegal" to "legal". Very helpful.
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And in the meantime the CPS discovers that they can prosecute nonce coaches by interpreting 'minor modification of a train service' in the Railways Act 2005 to refer to coaches having sex with 16 year olds.
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Pantsmaster Bill posted:That FT article seems to be only focussing on the death rate and completely ignoring the potential long-term chronic illness that even some mild cases are causing. That’s what worries me as a young person, not the death rate. But have you considered this: Get back to work, prole!
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Bobstar posted:Random callback, but I, Bobstar, remember a previous thread where we talked about knock-off Dyson stick hoovers. Impressed by how little this woman is holding any of these vacuums. 
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Cummings is going to get to completely remake the civil service then with how many people are leaving https://twitter.com/davidhencke/status/1281283187554103299?s=19
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Hierarchies: what to do about them? I don’t like hierarchies (that is, systems in which people are put into tiers and higher tiers have the right to give orders to lower tiers). Most of the unpleasantness I have personally encountered in my life came from being in lower tiers of one hierarchy or another. Now I’m in a mid-high tier I just try to make it not poo poo for people who report to me, largely by telling them a goal, letting them get on with it and only offering advice if they ask. To date this has worked wildly better than when I tried to give detailed instructions. On the other hand a lot of juniors (and sometimes more senior people too) don’t know what they are doing yet and are embarrassed to ask. I think this is an avenue of argument for the left. Without going full anarchist, most fears that centrist and rightist people have of a left wing government are that there will be a new hierarchy and they will be at the bottom. That’s a pretty rational thing to fight against. Let’s say the Labour Party as it is today has failed. Is there a new vision to build that promises people that (1) they will no longer have to worry about being at the bottom of the pile; and (2) society won’t collapse? Soviet-style communism won’t work because it was chock full of hierarchies from the very start. And in most expressly anti hierarchical systems, you end up with an informal hierarchy of “who has the most friends?”
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Beefeater1980 posted:most fears that centrist and rightist people have of a left wing government are that there will be a new hierarchy and they will be at the bottom. That’s a pretty rational thing to fight against. Let’s say the Labour Party as it is today has failed. Is there a new vision to build that promises people that (1) they will no longer have to worry about being at the bottom of the pile; and (2) society won’t collapse? The best that you can do is provide universal services that benefit almost everyone and convince as many people as possible that even if you're worse off for X then you're better off for Y and Z and so overall better off.
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I'm going for 1. society collapses and 2. you won't be at the bottom because we're gonna dig a new bottom and put all the class enemies in it.
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Jose posted:https://twitter.com/NicholasGuyatt/status/1281350282287382530?s=19 I wish cancel culture actually worked so I wouldn't have to see any more articles complaining about the author being a victim of it.
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Puntification posted:I wish cancel culture actually worked so I wouldn't have to see any more articles complaining about the author being a victim of it. you too can tell journalists to stfu on twitter
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Beefeater1980 posted:I think this is an avenue of argument for the left. Without going full anarchist, most fears that centrist and rightist people have of a left wing government are that there will be a new hierarchy and they will be at the bottom. That’s a pretty rational thing to fight against. Let’s say the Labour Party as it is today has failed. Is there a new vision to build that promises people that (1) they will no longer have to worry about being at the bottom of the pile; and (2) society won’t collapse? If you buy an even remotely Marxist reading of history, which many itt claim to, the imposition of class power is an inevitable part of (and the actual basis of) all (complex) human society. You can't avoid that and yes, in a left-governed state, the capitalist and landlord class must be suppressed. I think the key thing to get across to those centre and right people - or at least those who are arguing in good faith - is that almost none of them are members of the capitalist class so they wouldn't actually experience any hardship. Many would probably have a far better quality of life than they do now. It's breaking through that ideological conditioning that's the challenge. As you point out, I don't think the eradication of hierarchies is a remotely achievable (or, I would add, desirable) goal, at least in the short to mid term. Once capitalist and reactionary elements have been so thoroughly routed that communism is fully embedded we can start talking about that. Any newly minted left government would have to maintain hierarchical structures to engage in effective class struggle. Ideally these would be designed to prevent abuse - I quite like the syndicalist principle of directly elected representatives subject to immediate recall at any time. So yeah, this isn't a defence of the Soviet model - it was overly bureaucratic and rigid, I agree. With a little more wiggle room there could be something there though.
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Bobstar posted:Random callback, but I, Bobstar, remember a previous thread where we talked about knock-off Dyson stick hoovers. If I was willing and able to spaff money on a Dyson hoover I would rather have a whole house central vacuum system, those things are dreamy. And far better for you because the exhaust is pumped outside.
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josh04 posted:Impressed by how little this woman is holding any of these vacuums. It must be good if they are using it in heaven imo
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thespaceinvader posted:10% was overstating, that's fair. From yesterday but this is a good post. As a shielder, the more people return to their normal lives the longer i can't.
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crispix posted:It must be good if they are using it in heaven imo But those poor identical triplets  Do you think they all died in the same terrible accident?
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Guavanaut posted:Does heaven get very dusty? Dust is dead skin cells, heaven is full of dead people, so probably.
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Bobstar posted:But those poor identical triplets Killed by dust allergies, that's why they keep their part of heaven so perfectly clean with these ethereal vacuum cleaners.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Killed by dust allergies, that's why they keep their part of heaven so perfectly clean with these ethereal vacuum cleaners. Yeah angel wings have that dust on them like moths do.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Dust is dead skin cells, heaven is full of dead people, so probably.
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Crankit posted:Yeah angel wings have that dust on them like moths do. Angel dust, you say 
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Jakabite posted:I only have access to the web on my lovely phone at the moment and I’m curious. Can someone search my flaps score? I suspect it will be bad as I mainly lurk and occasionally just come and shout something into the void the thread might like. OwlFancier posted:You are 0.821 which is quite good IMO. Thanks! That is quite good. I can live in the shadow of such an engaging and high impact individual.
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ThomasPaine posted:I unironically worry about flaps and his family no he can no longer You should read your av text more often
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Jakabite posted:Thanks! That is quite good. I can live in the shadow of such an engaging and high impact individual. Your number of mentions outside of quotes is probably helped as your story about getting seen by the police for threatening the olympic torch relay with a water balloon gets retold on a regular basis by posters who half-remember it with key details different each time ThomasPaine posted:I unironically worry about flaps and his family no he can no longer I assure you from a quick check of his twitter account he's putting it all to good productive use by endlessly arguing against trans rights with an endless rotating cast of people who aren't yet familiar with his posting and thus think he might be reachable through reasoned argument
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ThomasPaine posted:I unironically worry about flaps and his family no he can no longer Don't, he's transferred his engagement and high impact posting to twitter where he's gone full Glinner.
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Angepain posted:Your number of mentions outside of quotes is probably helped as your story about getting seen by the police for threatening the olympic torch relay with a water balloon gets retold on a regular basis by posters who half-remember it with key details different each time Pissflaps is JKR confirmed?
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progress in coming up with a Pretentiousness Score that measures the average word length of users has been delayed by the number of posts that are just, like, "fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck" or "ahahahahahhahahahahahahhaaahha", or my personal favourite, ":reallybigironiccatthatkeepsgrowinguntilyourmonitorexplodesshoweringyourfaceinglass:". you'll be unsurprised to find out that despite not having figured out how to correct for this Ronya is still in the top 10
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