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Eegah! posted:New episode dropped with Taibbi talking cancel culture so oh boy can’t wait for the discourse. I'll listen too it but unless its Matt Christman reiterating what hes said in his recent vlogs I'll be disappointed. Because he makes the compelling argument that talking about cancel culture either way is pointless and impotent because there is no one directing it and no one has the authority to start or stop cancellations. Then he also talks about how this is mostly a result of the internet and its perverse incentive structure driving people insane. AnEdgelord fucked around with this message at 03:53 on Jul 10, 2020 |
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Seams posted:get ready for some Patreon graph tweets Who must go? https://twitter.com/gwensnyderPHL/status/1281310791803731975 
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Jul 10, 2020 04:19
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More doomed bernie casting, boooo
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Lmao at Taibbi arguing that not ACAB in the podcast
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Jul 10, 2020 06:57
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Anyway This Is Sus stays entertaining, Ben Palma and Felix have a great rapport
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QuickbreathFinisher posted:Anyway This Is Sus stays entertaining, Ben Palma and Felix have a great rapport Yeah I really enjoyed it a ton, they work well together
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Thoughts on friend of the pod Samantha Pritchard transitioning? https://twitter.com/thucydiplease/status/1281374227258462209 Wizard Master fucked around with this message at 09:24 on Jul 10, 2020 |
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Jul 10, 2020 08:06
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dunno who she is but i wish her well
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I don't know who that is, but I feel like you could have not deadnamed them for seemingly no reason
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Saagonsa posted:I don't know who that is, but I feel like you could have not deadnamed them for seemingly no reason Sam is already a woman's name though?
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Shipon posted:Sam is already a woman's name though? He strikedthroughed 'Sam' for a reason
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Jul 10, 2020 09:15
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Yeah, solidarity with POC cops, Amber. They totally don't quit in frustration or turn into that one black cop in boys in the hood.
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Saagonsa posted:I don't know who that is, but I feel like you could have not deadnamed them for seemingly no reason Sorry, that wasn’t meant to be disrespectful. I’ve edited it out.
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Pritchard is a just a hot takes machine who has personally come under fire for saying lots of homophobic or transphobic poo poo in the past. I believe their biggest claim to fame was very famously tweeting that they were starting a charity silence stream where every hour that they made X amount of money they would NOT post and NOT say anything and they were so legendarily hated and disliked that the stream was hugely successful because nobody wants to listen to this piece of poo poo. In the last two weeks Pritchard has come increasingly under scrutiny for being a sex creep and intimidating people into doing stuff and creep-texting, and they decided this was the perfect time to announce their transition and come out of the closet. As you can imagine, a lot of people are calling this suspicious timing at best, a smokescreen at worst.
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Shoulda had Osita on instead. I'm dreading listening to this one.Seams posted:taibbi is good He's extremely stupid on this subject though.
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I really liked this last episode of TIS, but this episode has wildly different energy from the others because these two men are extremely funny AND mean!
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Forceholy posted:Yeah, solidarity with POC cops, Amber. They totally don't quit in frustration or turn into that one black cop in boys in the hood. What's even funnier is Dave Chappelle came back and did such a brutal loving piece about this, and apparently nobody listened to him
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The people whining about cancel culture don't care about someone losing a job at Home Depot and I hate the people defending the concept bringing that up. They think cancel culture is Charles Murray being protested or Stephens getting dogpiled on Twitter. They think it's being able to share either long debunked or stupid beliefs and/or racism without consequences.
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Groovelord Neato posted:The people whining about cancel culture don't care about someone losing a job at Home Depot and I hate the people defending the concept bringing that up. They think cancel culture is Charles Murray being protested or Stephens getting dogpiled on Twitter. They think it's being able to share either long debunked or stupid beliefs and/or racism without consequences. Thats right
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Goddam I wish cancel culture meant putting Owens and Crowder and Loomer and Cerno and Smol Ben on a Survivor island where they all just tried to outgrift each other for the prize (which we say is money but it’s just getting thrown in a volcano)
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These folks were awfully quiet when Dershowitz torpedoed Finkelstein's attempt at tenure because Norm had pansted him on Democracy Now. Also weird how that's never brought up as an example of canceling despite being more famous than a lot of the examples they like trotting out.
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Groovelord Neato posted:These folks were awfully quiet when Dershowitz torpedoed Finkelstein's attempt at tenure because Norm had pansted him on Democracy Now. Also weird how that's never brought up as an example of canceling despite being more famous than a lot of the examples they like trotting out.  It is actually about class/media worker solidarity
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part of the problem is that there's no actual definition of 'cancel culture'. it ranges from people whining about their menshies on twitter to people trying to get other people fired for disagreements to boycotting famous people because theyre rapists.
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Taintrunner posted:What's even funnier is Dave Chappelle came back and did such a brutal loving piece about this, and apparently nobody listened to him His 8:46 special on Netflix, right?
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apparently this is some new thing that's going to make the world slightly worse https://twitter.com/devoted_pupa/status/1280793851586924544?s=20
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Mr Hootington posted:
Oh I know it's just lame having a whole episode where they never address this. I'm some rear end in a top hat and it's clear as day to me.
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Listening to episode right now and while Im not done Im gonna say this is probably their worst episode ever. The core problem is that Matt is half right, he believes that the media and education is engaged in trying to shape public opinion for their own benefit, which is correct, but then he says the that this is a new phenomenon which is absolutely not true and it poisons his entire position. There never was a point where the media was anything approaching a neutral arbiter of discourse and American history education has always been deliberately designed to instill the values of the ruling class in the population regardless of what they were in that era. Also Amber says that "abolish the police" is entirely the domain of twitter radicals and is then directly contradicted by Taibbi saying he heard drug dealers on street corners debating it and they just never acknowledge that this proves Ambers point wrong.
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I'm usually an Amber fan, but this episode is a mix of Taibbi being provocatively interesting even if I don't completely agree with him and Amber saying incredibly loving stupid things.
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Bust Rodd posted:Goddam I wish cancel culture meant putting Owens and Crowder and Loomer and Cerno and Smol Ben on a Survivor island where they all just tried to outgrift each other for the prize (which we say is money but it’s just getting thrown in a volcano)
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peanut- posted:I'm usually an Amber fan, but this episode is a mix of Taibbi being provocatively interesting even if I don't completely agree with him and Amber saying incredibly loving stupid things. Amber gets way more poo poo than she should but she does say the dumbest things of any of the Chapos. AnEdgelord posted:Listening to episode right now and while Im not done Im gonna say this is probably their worst episode ever Thought the same thing.
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There's not reading the room and then there's whatever the gently caress led to today's episode.Groovelord Neato posted:Thought the same thing. +1
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Taibbi is a great writer but he has really gone to poo poo in the Trump era
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i get the angle they were going for, but it was ultimately a directionless episode. there was no thesis outside of "can you get a load of these guys???" also, good job will making the "cut with fent" joke in front of taibbi lol e: this ep was lowkey admitting that everyone on the call doesn't know what's going on Phone fucked around with this message at 15:02 on Jul 10, 2020 |
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At the end they started talking about the cultural products of cancel culture and they keep talking about how "they" haven't produced any culture aside from marvel and star wars movies. Who the gently caress is "they"? Is it Twitter randos or is it the Disney corporation? Because Disney doesnt direct cancel culture and twitter randos dont direct disney movies.
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FlamingLiberal posted:Taibbi is a great writer but he has really gone to poo poo in the Trump era It's because he has spent his entire career trying desperately to call out the kind of politics that lead to Trump, so Trump winning broke his brain the same way it broke every media analysts brain. Taibbi has a very long and awesome career but his brain is Boomering.
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