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the_lion posted:I think Agent Walter Jesus Christ, Dornton.
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Lord Ludikrous posted:I still remember my jaw dropping on my first play through when I killed agent Navarre on the plane. First she killed Lebedev so I reloaded the game and tried to stop her and she promptly killed me. I assumed the game was meant to continue with Navarre killing Lebedev as part of the plot. I experimented with it and there's a spot on the side of the bed that you can place a single LAM, right after she tells you to kill him or get out, which will kill her and spare Lebedev. It's how I've gotten rid of her on my last several playthroughs.
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One really cool thing about the Nameless mod is how it handles lethal and non-lethal. You can even non-lethally take out the bosses! Nameless Mod has a terrible plot, but contains level and game design on par with OG Deus Ex. That plot though...
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Butterfly Valley posted:I can't remember how I figured that out, whether my friend who was playing it at the same time had given me advice or not, but I'm sure she still ended up dead on my first run through which absolutely planted the seed for how I would go on to interact with videogames for the rest of my life. I would like to say I'd gone non-lethal up until that point but I think what actually happened was the guilt upon finding out the NSF were the good guys imprinted upon me such that to this day non-lethal is my standard choice in any immersive sim, with exceptions for obviously evil factions that need to die, such as the entire Prague constabulary in MD. Hahaha my mom had the same reaction back in the early 2000’s when she asked what game that I was playing. No mom, I’m not playing a pornographic video game in the living room in the middle of the day. You raised me better than that.
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Lord Ludikrous posted:I still remember my jaw dropping on my first play through when I killed agent Navarre on the plane. First she killed Lebedev so I reloaded the game and tried to stop her and she promptly killed me. I assumed the game was meant to continue with Navarre killing Lebedev as part of the plot. Alchenar posted:I've posted before about how Deus Ex is a game where I try to stay non-lethal, and then there's suddenly this point where I'm gunning down MJ12 troops in the street.
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Basic Chunnel posted:As baggy as DX:HR was Adam Jensen’s a lot of things, but “jnco wearer” isn’t one of them
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El_Elegante posted:Adam Jensen’s a lot of things, but “jnco wearer” isn’t one of them "The mission will require us to do more than frighten the NSF with our baggy 
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barbecue at the folks posted:If the original DX was made today with the exact same writing but up-to-date graphics (even if the original was ugly as hell already on release), it would be universally panned as a bad joke. Maybe someone would commend it for its willingness to stick to the joke, but I think that would be it. The original was released in a world where standards for vidya james were a lot lower while managing to really embody a certain zeitgeist, and as an end result DX became universally loved. (and for good reason!) Deus Ex is still a great game by today's standards and I say that as someone who replayed most of it last year. The level design, multiple venues of play and reactivity would still be considered top tier when compared to contemporary titles. Some of the voice acting and writing is super corny and it was very much a product of the 90's Zeitgeist, but I still can't fault a game I walked out of with random book recommendations. Most importantly, it is a game that made me care about its characters and events in a way that informed gameplay, which is 100% what game writing is meant to achieve.
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ZearothK posted:Deus Ex is still a great game by today's standards and I say that as someone who replayed most of it last year. The level design, multiple venues of play and reactivity would still be considered top tier when compared to contemporary titles. Some of the voice acting and writing is super corny and it was very much a product of the 90's Zeitgeist, but I still can't fault a game I walked out of with random book recommendations. Most importantly, it is a game that made me care about its characters and events in a way that informed gameplay, which is 100% what game writing is meant to achieve. There's a game design philosophy that I call 'give no fucks we'll split loading screens' that's been lost now that the vast majority of games need to fit within the specs of a console. The only way the level design works is also because of a tolerance for loading screens that you just can't get away with these days (I tried to replay HL2 recently and it's just so painful hitting a loading screen every 60 seconds).
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Butterfly Valley posted:
Sergeant Steiner posted:Hahaha my mom had the same reaction back in the early 2000’s when she asked what game that I was playing. No mom, I’m not playing a pornographic video game in the living room in the middle of the day. You raised me better than that. Very much the same for me but I didn't know any Latin and pronounced it "Doos Ex" which half the time sounded like I was saying "do sex" of course. My religious mum was pretty sure that was intentional to get the kids tittilated etc and I'm pretty sure it's one of the games she made me show her the demo of before I could get it so she could see it wasn't actually pornography. Much more successful than the time I ended up with the Mission Impossible N64 game because she saw how the female characters were dressed in Killer Instinct and made me exchange it... I forgot about all of this, nice to know other people had similar experiences.
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When I was a little kid I got my friend Deus Ex for his birthday. Of course all the Doo Sex jokes were made, but unfortunately my friends were perhaps too young to fully appreciate the game. Most of the time was spent shooting tranq darts at peoples buttholes and laughing when green gas would come out. Anyway that's my Deus Ex story.
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SolidSnakesBandana posted:Most of the time was spent shooting tranq darts at peoples buttholes and laughing when green gas would come out. The most silent takedown
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jojoinnit posted:Very much the same for me but I didn't know any Latin and pronounced it "Doos Ex" which half the time sounded like I was saying "do sex" of course. My religious mum was pretty sure that was intentional to get the kids tittilated etc and I'm pretty sure it's one of the games she made me show her the demo of before I could get it so she could see it wasn't actually pornography. I just watched the GDC Deus Ex postmortem the other day, and I'm not sure it was exact;y for getting kids titillated, but Warren Spector certainly seemed to hope people mispronounced it because he made a game with sex in the title. I also like how one of the biggest inspiration for wanting to make Deus Ex came from a DnD game that Warren played that was GM'd by one of founder figures of the cyber punk genre and apparently so good he cried some point.
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Why are goons so weird. Just post normal, Jesus Christ.
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Does anyone have that meme of a picture of 2 pokemon and a GEP gun beside each other?fuckpot posted:As a Deus Ex tragic what Ugly In The Morning posted:My one problem with the big philosophy talks in the original is how they go from 0-60 and feel really unnatural. It works with Morpheus because it’s an AI but on things like the bartender it’s kind of strange. The conversation battles (and conversations in general) in HR feel more like, well, conversations and flow a lot better. They may not be dropping heavy concepts but they feel like things an actual human being may actually say. Legit that's part of why I love them so much. You're just talking to a bartender and he's like "The mark of an educated man is the suppression of these qualities in favour of better ones. The same is true of civilization." Acerbatus fucked around with this message at 06:35 on Jul 9, 2020 |
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you say that but jc wanted to break into an apartment to steal cash and drugs and was maxed out on rockets so he opened the door with the gep gun
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Phobophilia posted:you say that but jc wanted to break into an apartment to steal cash and drugs and was maxed out on rockets so he opened the door with the gep gun When due process fails us, we really do live in a world of terror. The mark of an educated man is the ability to suppress his need for a lockpick in favour of more advanced methods. jojoinnit fucked around with this message at 08:03 on Jul 9, 2020 |
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Phobophilia posted:you say that but jc wanted to break into an apartment to steal cash and drugs and was maxed out on rockets so he opened the door with the gep gun sometimes you gotta make a silent takedown
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It’s weird that the nano key ring and the GEP gun have such different shapes but equivalent functions.
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El_Elegante posted:It’s weird that the nano key ring and the GEP gun have such different shapes but equivalent functions. The nano key ring isn't the most silent takedown, though? 
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Little known fact: the descriptions for the Get Entry Please gun and the mulititool were swapped by mistake.
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If you think about it the GEP gun is more of a multi tool than the m ultitool is
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I lug the GEP around the whole game but due to brain worms if there is any boom in the environment, even halfway across the map, I'll happily schlep that over to blow a door or whatever without using any ammo. And once the Dragon Tooth is acquired that becomes the universal lockpick so the GEP becomes even more surplus to requirements, as my playstyle mandates that any large bot be hacked into submission rather than shot in the face. Doesn't stop me taking it the whole game through, my standard inventory is: GEP Assault Rifle and Combat Shotgun Sniper Rifle DTS Baton, LAMs, Gas Grenades, Multitools, Lockpicks and finally Biocells which again due to aforementioned brain worms will rarely be used because why take advantage of the convenient and ubiquitous resource when you can backtrack for 5 minutes to a repair bot?? Of those guns the Sniper and DTS see 99% of the action and everything else is mainly there because they arrange themselves neatly. I should probably have another run through soon because I've become a lot better recently at just using the things the game gives you instead of hoarding them. I was always tempted by a 'heavy weapons only' run, anyone else have fun gimmick builds?
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Demolitions + Low-Tech is an experience.
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i haven't played deus ex in like 15 years but got a hankering to replay recently. what are peoples' thoughts about mods? back in the day i tended to use shifter; i see there's stuff like give me deus ex out there these days, which frankly looks like way too much. is biomod good?
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Biomod is shifter+, smoothing out a lot of the kinks with the aug system so they activate as and when you need them instead of having to hover over the F keys. It also adds other stuff like mantling and pickpocketing, it's good poo poo.
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It also removes some of the stupid changes shifter eventually made like giving XP for kills/takedowns. Use biomod, it's basically Vanilla But Better.
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Made it to Vandenberg Airforce Base on the PS2. Was honestly surprised that Morgan Everett’s home was one single area on this version. What’s the state of PS2 emulation these days? I’d be interested to see how this compares if upscaled to 1080p+ @ 60fps.
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I’ve never used the GEP gun in 10+ play throughs
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GEP is good for the minimalist in me who enjoys pure bsp geometry.
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haldolium posted:GEP is good for the minimalist in me who enjoys pure bsp geometry. so your perfect level is a flat plane?
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double nine posted:so your perfect level is a flat plane? a cube actually. it was always oddly satisfying to destroy Deus Ex models. Felt like a good cleanup. And it was a great novelty that almost everything that wasn't bsp architecture could be destroyed, including doors and chests.
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Lord Ludikrous posted:Made it to Vandenberg Airforce Base on the PS2. Was honestly surprised that Morgan Everett’s home was one single area on this version. I've done a couple of Yakuza runthroughs on an emulator, you should be able to do this on a decent machine!
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ya this can be done, heres an example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mksuSdHeoxw
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No... no! Don't watch gameplay footage of Deus Ex! Don't do it! I have backlog! A BACKLOG!
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I don’t think I could play dx with the small ps2 levels. I mean sniping mj12 troopers from way up on that tower is the best. I’ve seen videos where people throw a LAM and ride it down skipping like 70% of the area.
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So I just randomly stumbled on some cool info: evidently Nameless Mod is currently undergoing a 2.0 update, a sort of self-remastering. Currently they've completed the first two (of five) missions.
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Man I kind of loved The Nameless Mod when it came out... 11 years ago holy poo poo. Interested to see what they've done with it but I'd bet anything that humour does not hold up (if it even held up at the time).
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Them doubling down on remastering TNM instead of just using that time and energy to make something that isn't instantly off-putting to everyone who wasn't a member of a particular forum 15 years ago is dedication if nothing else.
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Didn’t they drop most of the forum injoke stuff in the first level or two? I still haven’t gotten around to playing it because, well, forum in jokes, but I do intend to play it at some point. I heard the level/quest design is shockingly good.
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