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MarcusSA posted:OK Creed VR is pretty drat awesome but how the hell do you guys deal with sweat? I ordered a cover for the front but drat some of these games get me sweaty and it doesn't help its summer and hot as poo poo too. Embrace the sweat as weakness leaving the body.
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I'm always afraid some sweat will drop from my hair and onto the lens.
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Jul 10, 2020 10:43
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Elite is a shitload of time spent not knowing exactly how to do stuff, then once you finally understand the game you also understand how little of it is actually worth doing. The amount of disconnect between gameplay and reward is baffling. Like, say you were going to design a space game like Elite, or Privateer or whatever, where there are multiple playstyles, like combat pilot, trader, pirate, and so on. You'd probably relate the rewards to the playstyle, right? So a pirate gets pirate missions that give them pirate rewards, like fast, nasty ships that can get in, do a lot of damage and run away fast before the cops get there, and special stuff for grabbing cargo. Trader missions give stuff that helps against that, big, slow ships and reinforced cargo bays and so on. Combat pilots just get bigger guns and fightier ships. None of that in Elite. You wanna be a combat pilot? Don't do any combat, because that's not how you get combat-related rewards. First make money using the current gold-rush technique (which might be exploration, or mining, or stacking missions, but rarely involves any combat) making sure to run away from any combat you encounter, and then do engineering, which is a bunch of dull grinds along the lines of "fly 3000 light years" or "transport 6 tons of stuff from A to B and lol we'll only give you five tons at a time so enjoy making multiple trips", then fly all around the galaxy looking for the specific guns and components required to assemble your ship and loadout, because god forbid everything be buyable in the same place. It's just mind-boggling. There's good gameplay to be had in the game, but it's almost 100% detached from the reward mechanics in the game, which is just a bizarre choice.
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Jul 10, 2020 11:14
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seravid posted:Elite Dangerous is still mostly a "fly around" game with very little else to do, right? Maybe SpaceEngine would be a better purchase if I'm not that into sims. http://spaceengine.org/download/spaceengine/ Space Engine is just for viewing stuff but it's really good at it. You can type in co-ordinates to something and you'll be transported there instantly. If you prefer to "fly" it can be at whatever impossible speed you wish and, that is a huge deal for space exploration. At about 100 light years a second the stars streak past you like in Star Trek. Go to a different galaxy entirely if you want. You can also dive in and view the surface of any terrestrial planet. Sometimes I just pull up a list of cool places to visit and I can explore all of them in minutes. Betelgeuse, then a supermassive black hole, then a planet with purple skies. Elite Dangerous is space version of a flight simulator with tons of fiddly technical management. You can't just skip around wherever you want. The typical player will spend a huge amount of time in transit. If there's some point of interest I want to see but it's extremely far away, usually I just won't bother going. Trading and mining are classic space game staples but they are boring as poo poo here. The combat is fun. The sound design and cockpit interiors are fantastic. It's pretty barebones and slow in many ways but the presentation is slick and sometimes I'd rather play it than just view a model. My two favorite Elite descriptions are: "fun can be extracted from it with the right mindsets" and "1500 hours played, negative review".
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Jul 10, 2020 11:28
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Oh, I'm very familiar with 2D SpaceEngine  We've had threads for it going back... almost ten years, Jesus. Haven't bought it yet because there's plenty else to play and I'm not sure the VR integration is enough to pull me back (the addition of spaceships definitely wasn't). ...and a hard pass on Elite, then!
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Jul 10, 2020 12:07
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strange feelings re Daisy posted:If you're not into sims, probably. Older builds of Space Engine are free to download if you scroll down on this page. Don't forget to set LOD and loading speed to max in the options. Also realize that if you view the surface of a planet up close it will take a few seconds to generate/resolve into clear detail. To elaborate on this a bit: Elite is pretty much one of two different games. It's either a fairly decent space dogfighting sim, in which the ships that are intended specifically for combat can do some pretty wild maneuvers (Imperial Eagle is designed to just circle strafe at high velocities around other ships to stay in their blind spot), or it's Space Euro Truck Simulator. Sometimes it's Space Euro Truck Simulator with a (now) fairly deep asteroid mining minigame. There's a third role that I find boring, but other people seem to like, which is Exploration, where you attempt to travel to star systems that nobody else has gone to, and chart the planets and stuff there. It's a lot harder to do now, years into the game's lifespan, but still possible if you're willing to just fly for days outside of populated space. If you chart a planet that nobody else has turned in yet, you get to name it. This role used to be fairly straightforward; you burst into a system out of hyperjump, scan the star(s), "honk" your discovery scanner to get a basic idea of the major bodies, then fly up to said bodies and point your detailed surface scanner at them. It's a little more involved now, you have this thing called a full-spectrum scanner that you have to use after honking to get preliminary data about the planets, and your detailed surface scanner requires you to play a minigame with aligning probes around the planetoid sort of like the triangulation thing in EVE. I'm bad at the combat, but it's enjoyable; the ships have an on-by-default "flight assist" mode that makes them generally behave more like an airplane, which you're encouraged to toggle off sometimes in order to pull some more advanced maneuvers, like this nasty "backflip" using your pitch and vertical thrusters for getting behind a ship that's chasing you. I'm the weirdo who plays for the Space Trucking. If you like games about carefully driving a truck from one city to another city, you'll probably like this game about carefully flying a truck from one space station to another space station. It's *gorgeous* in VR. I'm running it on VR Medium into my Quest and it still looks incredible. You might get a little nauseous if you get too fresh with your maneuvers near an object large enough to give you a frame of reference. The cockpits are really a joy to "be" inside compared to the 2D experience. You don't realize how spacious and detailed these ships are until you see them in VR. There are a ton of buttons. If you have a fancy enough flight setup, you could map all the important ones, but you won't be able to see what you're doing. I was once naive enough to think that I could safely keep all the default mappings to the 12 buttons on the base of my stick, but it turns out it's a bad idea to have the buttons for deploying chaff, jettisoning your heatsink, overcharging your shield, and shutting off your shield for stealth purposes right next to each other when you're effectively blind. There's a $10 application called VoiceAttack that will let you bind a lot of things to voice commands, which will enable you to stick to relatively "safe" things on your stick base, like lights, cargo scoop, weapon hardpoints, and landing gear.
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Jul 10, 2020 12:26
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The Grumbles posted:although I kind of wish there was a way to make the stationary boundry bigger, so that the grid doesn't come up every time I stretch my arms out. quote:Disabling the Guardian only (developer mode)
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Jul 10, 2020 12:43
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by.a.teammate posted:Can I ask what steps you got no lag ? I’m using the router that came with my internet but it definitely connects 5ghz as the router shows the oculus was on the 5ghz network and the pc was directly plugged into the router and all in the same room. Even with what I saw as perfect setup it wasn’t just meh it was incredibly laggy. Is it the router? I'd imagine the issue is the router. My PC and Quest are both connected via 5Ghz wifi with the router being downstairs and I'm not seeing much lag over a usb connection. This is just using the default settings from Virtual Desktop as well, I've not messed with any settings at all to try and improve the performance.
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Jul 10, 2020 13:14
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MarcusSA posted:OK Creed VR is pretty drat awesome but how the hell do you guys deal with sweat? I ordered a cover for the front but drat some of these games get me sweaty and it doesn't help its summer and hot as poo poo too. as a certified brazilian: i keep a fan blowing at my face and i have this cloth i wrap around my forehead. makes it a lot better. but yeah, in the summer i do play less
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Jul 10, 2020 14:19
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MarcusSA posted:OK Creed VR is pretty drat awesome but how the hell do you guys deal with sweat? I ordered a cover for the front but drat some of these games get me sweaty and it doesn't help its summer and hot as poo poo too. bandana around head
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Jul 10, 2020 15:39
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They said bigger, not off. I'm in the same boat, i'd love to have a stationary boundary that was bigger, but i've instead just decided to do roomscale but sit in the middle.
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Jul 10, 2020 15:52
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RE: Elite dangerous If you try to do everything you will be frustrated. If you want to fight, then fight and save up cash for a better dogfighting ship. If you want to explore, then explore and save up cash for a ship with a crazy jump range. If you want to play space trucker (my personal fav), then do it and save for a ship with huge cargo capacity. If you try to do all of them you will get frustrated because the grind to get the best setups for each individual thing are long in themselves and the ships that are good at each thing generally don’t overlap too much. Having a good trucking ship, a good exploring ship and a dogfighter in your stable is a late-game thing for when you have billions of spacebucks to throw at builds.
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Jul 10, 2020 16:05
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Elite has been great for me when I smoke a little and haul space cargo for an hour or two with some music. I can’t imagine getting really deep into the game. As a VR bonus, you can poke your head out of your ship to look around. It’s nice that my spaceship has a sunroof.
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Jul 10, 2020 18:23
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Professor Wayne posted:Elite has been great for me when I smoke a little and haul space cargo for an hour or two with some music. I can’t imagine getting really deep into the game. You can also get up and look around the bridge of your ship in roomscale, but the game's not designed around it and you'll still see your "body" sitting in the pilot chair.
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Jul 10, 2020 18:32
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Professor Wayne posted:smoke a little deadly_pudding posted:you'll still see your "body" sitting in the pilot chair. This tracks.
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Jul 10, 2020 19:31
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mashed_penguin posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53Gg7Q0C6SU "playing bow and arrow games is no problem" *never shows a realistic bow pull* I mean I'm sure the tracking is better than the old WMR sets but I wanted to see how it does right up on your face
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Jul 10, 2020 19:59
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Professor Wayne posted:Elite has been great for me when I smoke a little and haul space cargo for an hour or two with some music. I can’t imagine getting really deep into the game. Playing the soma.fm station that is nasa radio chatter over ambient electronic is absolute  in Elite
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Jul 10, 2020 20:56
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MarcusSA posted:https://www8.hp.com/us/en/vr/reverb-g2-vr-headset.html Come on, that's bullshit. I guess I'll still order one now. 
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Jul 10, 2020 21:30
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I am extremely loving pissed off. After the latest Oculus Rift update the video in my HMD is stuttery as poo poo. Like it seems like I'm getting 0.5FPS but on the mirrored video on my monitor I'm at 70-100FPS. Video on the monitor is smooth as it should be but the HMD sucks. I literally cannot play anything due to this. Anyone have the same issue or any ideas? I'm about to run this thing over with my car because this is the 3rd time I've had to open a support ticket for updates that break the god drat thing.
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Jul 10, 2020 21:38
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That hit like 10 of the users I support and all of them just needed to reinstall their graphics drivers and that sorted it.
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Jul 10, 2020 22:29
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Space Engine still has their 0.9.8.0 release for free on their website to give it a 2D test drive It's really good for clicking on a random star, and then cruising 100' above procedurally generated mountain ranges while your endorphins are pinging from controlled substances Supposedly there's a spaceship plugin but I've never used it. If you dig there was a dedicated thread to this app
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Jul 10, 2020 22:34
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Oh, I wanted to assist to the Tempest live show from The Under Presents, but the sessions are from 1am to 4am in my timezone. The problem with live events I guess. :/
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Jul 10, 2020 23:30
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SixPabst posted:I am extremely loving pissed off. After the latest Oculus Rift update the video in my HMD is stuttery as poo poo. Like it seems like I'm getting 0.5FPS but on the mirrored video on my monitor I'm at 70-100FPS. Video on the monitor is smooth as it should be but the HMD sucks. I literally cannot play anything due to this. Anyone have the same issue or any ideas? I'm about to run this thing over with my car because this is the 3rd time I've had to open a support ticket for updates that break the god drat thing. Are you on a AMD card? If so, downgrade your video drivers to 20.4. 20.5 literally made my headset unusable, and 20.7 (released yesterday) makes the headset somewhat usable again in virtual desktop, but immediately locks up the minute anything is displayed other than the Oculus dash when using the Link cable.
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Jul 10, 2020 23:32
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Hadlock posted:Space Engine still has their 0.9.8.0 release for free on their website to give it a 2D test drive The old thread was by me: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3551191 I was thinking about reviving it but the original threads never got much traction; I wouldn't mind doing it again if there's enough interest.
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Jul 10, 2020 23:40
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seravid posted:Haven't bought it yet because there's plenty else to play and I'm not sure the VR integration is enough to pull me back (the addition of spaceships definitely wasn't). sigher posted:The old thread was by me:
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Jul 10, 2020 23:53
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Jenny Agutter posted:"playing bow and arrow games is no problem" *never shows a realistic bow pull* Yeah totally I want to see him play some games with it not just gently caress around in rec room.
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Jul 10, 2020 23:56
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I'm slowly getting my VR legs, but I still can't play for more than a half hour with smooth movement. Has anyone gotten foot tracking locomotion working yet? Maybe that'll help.
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Jul 11, 2020 00:37
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:Playing the soma.fm station that is nasa radio chatter over ambient electronic is absolute Love Mission Control and somafm has a buncha other great streams too
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Jul 11, 2020 00:49
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when theres zombies on my computer screen i aim my cursor and POW POW POW dead zombies when there's zombies standing 10 feet away from me shambling in my direction I forget which buttons reload the gun having gone from no VR ever to playing Alyx feels so weird, i look around every corner, jump at every shadow, and i've barely gotten anywhere in hours because I'm sure a zombie is behind every window. I know everyone else had this experience last year but someone confirm for me this game is freaky as gently caress to play in VR
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Jul 11, 2020 01:07
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Horror games in VR have so much potential. I've only played a few janky ones, but they were effective.
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Jul 11, 2020 01:21
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hhhat posted:when theres zombies on my computer screen i aim my cursor and POW POW POW dead zombies Oh its pretty much the same from there on out. Nothing gets scarier than the zombies. Honest.
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Jul 11, 2020 01:22
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Isometric Bacon posted:Oh its pretty much the same from there on out. Nothing gets scarier than the zombies. Honest. Play Alien: Isolation, it's the best and worst horror VR experience.
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Jul 11, 2020 01:41
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Jenny Agutter posted:"playing bow and arrow games is no problem" *never shows a realistic bow pull* Works great for Pavlov/Onward! Source: Trust me bro
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Isometric Bacon posted:Oh its pretty much the same from there on out. Nothing gets scarier than the zombies. Honest. oh no I already found the head crab I just kinda went like nah ill play more later
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I’m a huge wuss for horror games, I quit them all the time and Subnautica was a major difficulty pretty much throughout. Somehow, I managed to force myself through the long dark part of Alyx. gently caress that, I don’t know how I did it. I think maybe the immersion kicked in a survival instinct or some bullshit, I really don’t know. So I picked up Freedive, I assume I’m going to hate this. Bad Munki fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Jul 11, 2020 |
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Jul 11, 2020 02:19
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sigher posted:Play Alien: Isolation, it's the best and worst horror VR experience. I've been waiting to see if they ever update that mod by adding motion controls. I did play it, way back when, on the original Oculus DK2. I have a very fond memory of being stuck under a virtual desk, underneath my real desk, unable to move because that fucker was patrolling the hallways and I was too frozen up to move.
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Jul 11, 2020 02:27
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Isometric Bacon posted:I've been waiting to see if they ever update that mod by adding motion controls. I've quit that game so fast so many times on flat. I mean like, quit, exit, uninstall. Six months later, rinse and repeat.
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Jul 11, 2020 02:33
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In regards to that new Half-Life Alyx interactive thing; Wow Geoff, dick move putting the big end-game spoiler on the splash page advertising to everyone on Steam.
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Jul 11, 2020 03:45
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hhhat posted:oh no If that stopped you, I don't think you'll beat chapter 3.
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