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ronya posted:Zoom out from UKpol for a moment and just think about how dysfunctional British political decisionnmaking looks from an international perspective. It's not even whether the project is a good idea at that point: it's that the British polity at large cannot decide on what it wants and what costs it would accept to achieve what it wants. Can verify this is the case here in China. To the very limited extent policy makers bother to inform themselves about the rest of the world (China is increasingly like the US in that sense), their view of the UK is “what the actual gently caress?”
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:Britain is not a racist country, yeah? it was a 12 year old kid what the gently caress
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Going to be fun watching them post Brexit, knowing the mainland shat on them and told them to lump it.
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happyhippy posted:Going to be fun watching them post Brexit, knowing the mainland shat on them and told them to lump it. I honestly don't think they'll understand. Most of them seem to think Brexit is already done lol
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trying to subtly suggest to someone in the Euro travel thread that it's maybe not such a good idea to be jetting off to Greece for a beach holiday but everyone else seems to be 100% on board with the idea and saying things like "this is a great time to go because there will be no cruise ships" 
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Is the track and trace piece of paper not mandatory for pubs? I went for a pint the other day (although it was exclusively outdoors) and nothing was mentioned.
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They are more of a danger to Greece than the other way round, tbf.
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Nothingtoseehere posted:They are more of a danger to Greece than the other way round, tbf. yes and to me that seems like a pretty good reason to not loving go
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bessantj posted:Yes, the company costs are taken before my final pay. [Edit: after some discussion on discord exploring the fact that you're on a ZH contract running through an umbrella, this advice below is probably wrong, and they are entitled to deduct the money. You are entitled to "opt out" of paying any contributions, which will remove both sides of the deduction from your pay packet, caveat re retirement etc -- but seeing as you aren't getting "free money" from the employer, maybe it's worth considering doing so. Speak to your umbrella and they will opt you out on request] Maybe someone has already answered this, but I work for a pension provider in the UK (albeit as a computer toucher). I'm not *certain* of the intricacies of zero hours contracts or umbrella companies, so I may be missing something, but this sounds like (in regulatory terms) a reportable breach. Pension law in the UK is complicated as gently caress in the detail, but the principle (if you are contributing, your employer must be too) is pretty simple. You should also have the ability to fully opt out really easily if you choose to, which will return at least your 5% to your pay packet, although you should think about the impact on your retirement if you do. I suggest you fire off a quick email to The Pensions Regulator (https://www.thepensionsregulator.gov.uk/en/contact-us/whistleblowing-contact-us). They do have (some) teeth and will be able to advise you if your employer is in breach (and will follow up direct with them). I don't know whether they guarantee anonymity or not, though -- YMMV. kalleth fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Jul 12, 2020 |
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The Perfect Element posted:Is the track and trace piece of paper not mandatory for pubs? I went for a pint the other day (although it was exclusively outdoors) and nothing was mentioned. I went to two yesterday and there was no tracking stuff since we were outdoors. One of them said they needed to add you on WhatsApp if you wanted to sit indoors though.
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Outdoor trip report: the Thames path is pretty busy, some places seem to be controlling the number of people fairly well, others not so much and any spare scrap of grass along the river is pretty packed out. Very similar to the way things were ~1 week before the full lockdown started. That said I didn't see many places open indoors so if the stuff about drive by transmission being rare is true we may yet not be hosed. Also my neighbours kids have spent a solid 5 hours screaming and calling each other (and their parents) twats while soaking the boundary fence in water from one of those above ground pool things they've parked right next to it and having various people round to join the party in the covid pond.
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Just spent the last 6 hours outside, getting sunburned while 'playing' 'cricket'. From the general noise level in the local area, it certainly sounded like lots of people were out and about
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bessantj posted:Thank you for the offer, maybe it is better to get some more experienced eyes on it. I've chopped it up but all the pertinent info is there. All that's missing from the second one is how much holiday pay I've saved up. I may be a bit late but my understanding of the situation is as follows. You (person A) work for umbrella company (company B) who contrac ts you out to who you labour for (company C). In essence then company B is your employer, not company C, and are therefore responsible for employer NI and pension contributions etc. What company B will do is charge a rate to company C that includes the costs they incur for employing you. Essentially they've charged £12 an hour for your labour. This is called the assignment rate. From that assignment rate they've taken the costs they incur for employing you as well as £21 profit, then paid you £394 which is your gross pay. From that £394 you have then paid tax etc as normal, leaving you £354 as your net pay. To put it very simply, umbrella companies charge the end user more than they pay the contractor because they need to make money themselves as well as pay statutory costs. Whike the existence of umbrella companies is scummy, it doesn't look like they've broken the law, amd in fact have provided you with a record of the employer contributions for your records.
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Dirty secret that I just heard from my home town in N. Ireland. One of the pubs never closed AT ALL during lockdown. They shut the doors and you have to phone ahead to get in. Haven't a clue if they were reported to the police at all, but then again our nearest police station is 10 miles away and they don't even come out for house break ins until the next day usually.
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Id suspect a fair amount of village locals did the same
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Wait, the track and trace thing is mandatory for indoor places? I was in a Nero's yesterday and the only indication of it was a piece of paper with a QR code on it stuck above the sugar and napkin rack, saying something about using it with some app I don't have. All part of the "get the plebs back to work ASAP" policy, I guess. Can't self-isolate when you've been traced as in contact with someone infected if you can't be traced!
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Payndz posted:Wait, the track and trace thing is mandatory for indoor places? I was in a Nero's yesterday and the only indication of it was a piece of paper with a QR code on it stuck above the sugar and napkin rack, saying something about using it with some app I don't have. Yeah there's no way it was supposed to work in any capacity beyond allowing the government to say they're doing it.
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happyhippy posted:Dirty secret that I just heard from my home town in N. Ireland. In Norn Iron I'm sure 100% the peelers were the first ones through the door lmao, as long as they got a couple of free pints or a wee twenty under the table they wouldn't upset the apple cart
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kalleth posted:[Edit: after some discussion on discord exploring the fact that you're on a ZH contract running through an umbrella, this advice below is probably wrong, and they are entitled to deduct the money. Well thank you for the effort anyway. Namtab posted:I may be a bit late but my understanding of the situation is as follows. Yes, I'm resigned to the fact that there is little I can do. however I had a shift last night and talked to a couple of people and apparently if you're a COSS (Controller of Site Safety), Machine Controller or an ES (Engineering Supervisor) or something like that they pay you slightly differently and you don't get all the deductions. So maybe that's something I should work towards.
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Yep, one of the three pubs that had to close immediately after reopening said they had to ring everyone who'd left their contact details. They'd done it all in one day to make sure people knew as soon as possible, and said it had taken them until 10pm. They only had one number per group, and it's up to that person to contact everyone else who was with them. The system works if you've got conscientious bar staff, customers who leave their real contact details in neat hadwriting, and a lead contact who can remember exactly who they were with down the pub the weekend before last. So many links in the chain to break. But hey, there's a system, and it's not the government's fault if it doesn't work. Cheers!
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https://twitter.com/sustrapperazzi_/status/1282309409532772352?s=19 https://twitter.com/sustrapperazzi_/status/1282417245575151618?s=19
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ThomasPaine posted:Up the loving 'ra 
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The Covid 19 tracing app launched here in Ireland this week. So far it seems to be working with nearly a million people having downloaded it. That being said it was only today that I saw a comic on Facebook explain how the app works in a way that doesn't comprise your privacy. (I am not able to upload said comic, but the app just spits out random messages that other people with the app who are nearby absorb and keep for 14 days. If you report as sick, the central server posts the "winning Covid Lottery numbers." If your phone detects matches it tells you that you have been in contact with someone who has Covid and only at that stage do you get contacted by the health service.) Seems pretty cool. Sometimes technology can solve big problems.
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the poor Yaxley-Lennons having their hollybobs ruined with politicsThe Question IRL posted:The Covid 19 tracing app launched here in Ireland this week. So far it seems to be working with nearly a million people having downloaded it. that just sounds like the standard stuff Apple and Google are rolling out. We, of course, will be developing our own FAR BETTEr *trips over chair dropping money into someone's pocket* oh dear
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The Question IRL posted:The Covid 19 tracing app launched here in Ireland this week. So far it seems to be working with nearly a million people having downloaded it. sounds sameish as in Switzerland and Germany
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Lt. Danger posted:twisto posted: Yes! Thanks!
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I wonder how that "Pick for Britain" thing is doing?BBC posted:Coronavirus: Mathon farm workers isolating after 73 cases Oh...
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Mano posted:sounds sameish as in Switzerland and Germany It's the reference implementation Apple and Google designed so yeah it'll be the same everywhere with a vaguely competent/not-evil government that don't already have their own system. (It's also the idea I had and posted here as to how you could do it privately and I would like a £10m contract from HMG please)
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return0 posted:Yes! Thanks! I'm always surprised when I see that quoted cos it's even more full of typos and unfinished thoughts than my normal posts, and there's a reason for that that I can never remember, I just remember reading it the next day and going "ugh", and yet I'm fairly sure it's my most quoted post ever.
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OwlFancier posted:"world beating" Plucky Grate Britaine is in a very strong third for coronavirus deaths after only the US and Brazil 
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 https://www.cornwalllive.com/news/cornwall-news/cornwall-pub-installs-electric-fence-4320031 Management at a popular pub in Cornwall have put up an electric fence at the bar - to ensure people maintain social distancing. Staff at The Star Inn in St Just have had enough of people doing as they pleased and ignoring social-distancing guidelines.
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Jippa posted:
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Eararaldor posted:That’s shocking There will be resistance.
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Jippa posted:
Cornwall live is an horrendous little news outlet known for talking bs by the locals but it doesn't suprise me one bit for St Just. As someone who grew up there I remember that it had maybe 8 pubs for a population of around 4k people. St Just used to be a little rough around the edges but it's turned itself with a fair amount of EU development fund money into a really nice place unlike PZ which has taken a nose dive. MonkeyLibFront fucked around with this message at 08:38 on Jul 13, 2020 |
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