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AlternateNu posted:Having never served on a carrier, I can't confirm. Are we counting the PBS mini series where the sexual harrassment PO gets busted for frat and that poor doughy seaman gets his heart broken by the teenage girl he met at the drive through?
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Ron Jeremy posted:Are we counting the PBS mini series where the sexual harrassment PO gets busted for frat and that poor doughy seaman gets his heart broken by the teenage girl he met at the drive through? Not to mention the appallingly moto CMC who walks around calling everyone Shipmate. BSG lifts a lot of the terminology and superficial elements from carrier life, but the PBS series has some surprisingly candid depictions of the people. Also, while it's a little dated, The Final Countdown has some great depictions of carrier life and operations.
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I'd like to offer some nuanced critique of Carrier, but I've never been able to make it half way through the first episode.
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Just reporting in to say retirement is awesome, and Florida's med weed is awesome too.
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King of Bees posted:Just reporting in to say retirement is awesome, and Florida's med weed is awesome too. Watch out for COVID.
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Bonhomme Richard has a 3-Alarm fire in port in SD. https://twitter.com/GreggFavre/status/1282376995117113347?s=20
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SquirrelyPSU posted:Bonhomme Richard has a 3-Alarm fire in port in SD. Oh poo poo
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Jul 12, 2020 19:51
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Oh poo poo Goddamn. I spent a ton of time on BHR back when she was in Sasebo. I hope everyone is ok.
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This Chris Cavas thread has updates. https://twitter.com/CavasShips/status/1282380677653176320 Note esp. https://twitter.com/AvTirpitz/status/1282380842744967169 This guy: https://twitter.com/Byron230/status/1282386326919303175 is talking about a fire on a Jacksonville car carrier, not about the Bonhomme Richard. (He mentions that downthread.)
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I've got a friend down in SD. She's taking pictures and sending them over to me and giving updates on what's happening with other ships. It is not good.
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The photos I've seen no-poo poo remind of all those carriers hit by kamikazes. The BHR is gonna need millions in repair if she's even repairable at the end of this. Thank God there's only been injuries reported, no deaths. Hope it stays that way.
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Jesus Christ, hoping everyone makes it out of there okay. I don't know a lot about ships, but I've been watching the news chopper livestream for a half-hour, a lot of white and grey smoke started in the midsection of the ship, but the past few minutes there's been black smoke pouring out of the aft. Does that mean a fire is moving and consuming more volatiles?
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Jul 12, 2020 20:16
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I'm always surprised when they want to send shoreside firefighters onto ships. I wouldn't send anyone onboard if they weren't familiar with the vessel. Sounded like they were trying to hit it with foam at one point. Is there no fixed system on Navy ships or was it disabled due to maintenance?
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The fire suppression system failed, according to rumor at any rate.lightpole posted:I'm always surprised when they want to send shoreside firefighters onto ships. I wouldn't send anyone onboard if they weren't familiar with the vessel. San Diego's a big port for warships, freighters, and cruise ships. San Diego fire presumably has special units for assisting with fires on ship.
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lightpole posted:I'm always surprised when they want to send shoreside firefighters onto ships. I wouldn't send anyone onboard if they weren't familiar with the vessel. I saw a quote saying 200 people on board, insinuating that it's a standard Sunday Duty Day and that no major operations were planned. There is plenty of fixed fire suppression on Navy ships (in the Hangar Bay). The first post I saw insinuated both that they heard that it was both "below decks" and "in the hangar bay". Based on the images I'd say engine or fuel fire. e: Or electrical that noone noticed for like 2 hours.
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Things: I can smell this from my house. It looks like she's in SRA so she'll have no real ordnance onboard. Based on the size and the fact that they pulled all of the fire fighters off, there's a good chance she'll be a loss. This sucks.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:The fire suppression system failed, according to rumor at any rate. When we did shipboard firefighting training, it was at a civilian place in Bothell (WA).
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You're required to train with shore side Fire Fighters during yard periods per the NSTM 555 because of what happened with the USS Miami. So that part makes absolute sense to me. Ships do have several installed FF systems too. We have AFFF foam, Halon/HFP, and water mist systems depending on the ship. Halon and HFP are only installed in certain spaces though, and depending on where this started, there's a real chance it was in a space that didn't have an installed system.
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Current word I'm hearing is they're prepping to clear the other ships on that pier and shift fully to defense/containment until it burns itself out.
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The Valley Stared posted:You're required to train with shore side Fire Fighters during yard periods per the NSTM 555 because of what happened with the USS Miami. So that part makes absolute sense to me. Ships do have several installed FF systems too. We have AFFF foam, Halon/HFP, and water mist systems depending on the ship. Halon and HFP are only installed in certain spaces though, and depending on where this started, there's a real chance it was in a space that didn't have an installed system. I would be nervous about sending engine department people into the engine room for a fire and they would be intimate with it. The Henry called out SFFD but Ben and Claudia had already pulled the CO2 by the time they get to the vessel. Their next move was to let it burn itself out over sending people in. Attacking would have been about a 15-20 min with another 5-10 min for travel I figure but we only get the 30 min bottles. Being able to train onboard would help but it wouldn't give them the muscle memory/intimate familiarity of the vessel I would want if I cant see anything is all. Edit: I guess I'm just a part time firefighter so the full time may be more comfortable? lightpole fucked around with this message at 20:41 on Jul 12, 2020 |
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Hope they had a good duty section on today. Could not imagine something like this happening inport
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ManMythLegend posted:Current word I'm hearing is they're prepping to clear the other ships on that pier and shift fully to defense/containment until it burns itself out. Goodness gracious
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ManMythLegend posted:Current word I'm hearing is they're prepping to clear the other ships on that pier and shift fully to defense/containment until it burns itself out. Jesus poo poo
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Nick Soapdish posted:Hope they had a good duty section on today. Could not imagine something like this happening inport As a former amphib sailor, I absolutely could imagine this. e: Anyone familiar enough with the layout of an LHA to guess what is on fire from the pictures?
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Looks like there'll be a new chapter in those training films after the Forrestal and Enterprise fires.
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Someone told me the Fitzgerald is the DDG next to the BHR?
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Stultus Maximus posted:As a former amphib sailor, I absolutely could imagine this. Friend of mine who's watching this and was on the wasp says it really looks like the entire hangar bay is on fire.
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Stultus Maximus posted:Someone told me the Fitzgerald is the DDG next to the BHR? ...That's what I'm hearing from friends.
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Madurai posted:Looks like there'll be a new chapter in those training films after the Forrestal and Enterprise fires. Don't forget about the The GW Fire
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SquirrelyPSU posted:When we did shipboard firefighting training, it was at a civilian place in Bothell (WA). I did that training! It kicked rear end. My favorite parts were plasma cutting and the box lunch. Here's hoping nobody dies on Bonhomme Richard. 🤞🤞
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Stultus Maximus posted:Someone told me the Fitzgerald is the DDG next to the BHR? One of Matsons newbuilds is right next to her
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Dorstein posted:I did that training! It kicked rear end. My favorite parts were plasma cutting and the box lunch. Didn't the Essex Bonhomme Richard get hit by a kamikaze and nearly was sunk if not for awesome damage control? Edit: nevermind I was thinking about the USS Franklin Flikken fucked around with this message at 21:14 on Jul 12, 2020 |
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Flikken posted:Didn't the Essex Bonhomme Richard get hit by a kamikaze and nearly was sunk if not for awesome damage control? I think that was the Bunker Hill.
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Flikken posted:Didn't the Essex Bonhomme Richard get hit by a kamikaze and nearly was sunk if not for awesome damage control? That was the Franklin and/or the Bunker Hill.
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Stultus Maximus posted:Someone told me the Fitzgerald is the DDG next to the BHR? https://twitter.com/CavasShips/status/1282400715491684354
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 Fuuuuuck  e: the Facebook grapevine has photos from the pier and inside the ship that look like, at least at one point, they were staging firefighting efforts in the hangar bay. Not clear if the photo of visible fire in the hangar bay is from before or after that. Wingnut Ninja fucked around with this message at 21:25 on Jul 12, 2020 |
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https://twitter.com/SurfaceWarriors/status/1282403842961797120?s=20 Edit: I just saw SURFOR's hangle of Surface Warriors. I really hate using warriors for anything in the military profession, it is a pet peeve of mine
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