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It wasn't met with complete silence. People were booing even though they were prohibited from doing so.
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I did a quick look around when this match happened and saw nothing. This deserves to be a MOTYC. It is a rematch of their fathers, and keeps going. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWdmGqdZoUA&hd=1
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GEORGE W BUSHI posted:It wasn't met with complete silence. People were booing even though they were prohibited from doing so. I literally just watched it. There's a solid few minutes of utter silence from the crowd after the pinfall. They really don't start reacting until EVIL grabs the mic.
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Oil! posted:I did a quick look around when this match happened and saw nothing. This deserves to be a MOTYC. It is a rematch of their fathers, and keeps going. Just confirming for the record, this is: Aereo vs. Villano III Jr in a Mask vs. Mask Match - AAA 3/1, right? Punch McLightning has nominated it as an HM, I'll add your MOTY nomination to it.
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Dango Bango posted:I literally just watched it. There's a solid few minutes of utter silence from the crowd after the pinfall. They really don't start reacting until EVIL grabs the mic. What were they gonna do, clap? The arena rules were no chanting or yelling. Eventually they just said gently caress it.
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Jerusalem posted:Just confirming for the record, this is: Going to say yes, the Youtube upload is late, but I dout they had more fights aaround this one.
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Yeah you know what? WMOTYC: Tetsuya Naito vs. EVIL, NJPW Dominion, 12/07
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Basically I wasn't a big fan of anything that didn't involve Hiromu or Milano. WMOTYC: Tetsuya Naito vs. EVIL, NJPW Dominion, 12/07
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After a good night’s sleep I’ve processed the match more and have come to the conclusion that as baller as EVIL’s new music is and as hilarious as the ending was, it didn’t justify an ungodly boring 40-minute match where the first interesting thing happened 10 mins in, the second 20 mins in and then the whole thing just drove off a cliff in a clown car for the last five or so minutes. Trash. Only saving graces were Hiromu, Milano, and the table spot. Even the DICK TOGO reveal came after the match. WMOTYC: Tetsuya Naito vs. EVIL, NJPW Dominion, 12/07
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MOTYC - NEVER Openweight Championship: Shingo Takagi (c) vs SHO [Dominion, 7/12] It was pretty much exactly what everyone expected it to be, and that's a good thing. I wasn't as big as everybody else on their previous 2 matches (still liked them a lot, just felt they were a tad underwhelming for how much the rivalry's been built up). This one definitely delivered, though. HM - IWGP Tag Team Championship: Golden Aces (c) vs Dangerous Tekkers [Dominion, 7/12] I felt the action got kind of muddy and nondescript in the middle, and by the last third of the match or so it got real obvious who was winning, but it was still a lot of fun. Zack and Taichi are a wonderful team. HM - IWGP & IWGP IC Championships: Tetsuya Naito (c) vs EVIL [Dominion, 7/12] I'm still extremely conflicted on this match. It's by no means a MOTYC. It absolutely felt stretched out. Even as a Naito fan I'm not loving blind, and I can see the guy's lost a step in the last year or two, but he's absolutely still capable of having great matches. I just don't think he is nearly as well suited to 40 minute epics as Okada or Tanahashi, but I think this one is more on Gedo though. He seems fixated on that being the standard, despite some guys like Naito being far better at doing a faster paced 15-20 minute match. Switchblade I think is somewhere in the middle of the two extremes. EVIL as well is much better in shorter, hard hitting brawls, and he was essentially tasked with doing a completely new style for two main events in a row. The interference... whatever. If you're expecting a main event with someone from non-Elite BC to happen with no shenanigans you're insanely naive. The muted crowd response also hurt it but I can't really hold that against the match too much, I can tell they wanted to boo the poo poo out of EVIL. At the end of the day what saved this match from not rating (It's nowhere near bad enough for a WMOTYC imo, even if you're ignoring WWE wrecking the grading curve and judging it purely by New Japan standards; let's not forget Jado/Yano also happened this year) is Hiromu. The overarching story of Hiromu having the one thing he's wanted all year (and even further back than that apparently) taken from him over and over until he devolves into a screaming mess at the end of the show was pitch perfect. This maybe belongs in the New Japan thread but whatever, gently caress that thread right now. If Naito gets another shot at a decent run, that'd be great, but if this is it for Naito's run at the top then that's fine too. He got his moment and he's more than made his mark, and I'm sure he's probably ok with going out in service of elevating his two kouhai as mainstays of the company.
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HM 5th July Dragon Gate Hopeful Gate BxB Hulk, Big R Shimizu & Eita vs Kai, Strong Machine J & YAMATO The base level of DG multi-man tags is so high that most of them could honestly be at or near HM level but this stood out. Dragon Kid & Shuji Kondo vs Ben K & Jason Lee from the same show is also well worth watching but I'm not HMing it, it's a tiny bit short but really fun.
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TriffTshngo posted:HM - IWGP & IWGP IC Championships: Tetsuya Naito (c) vs EVIL [Dominion, 7/12] After sleeping on it, nth this.
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With great pride I say that at the midway point of the year, wrestler of the year Taichi has: One singles MOTY One tag MOTY Two almost-MOTYs One singles HM Two tag HMs No WMOTY
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TriffTshngo posted:HM - IWGP & IWGP IC Championships: Tetsuya Naito (c) vs EVIL [Dominion, 7/12] I'll NTH an HM after sleeping on it.
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Chris James 2 posted:With great pride I say that at the midway point of the year, wrestler of the year Taichi has: Just think what he'd have racked up if New Japan hadn't taken 4 months off
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lmfao at the small time mentality of posting a week in the life of ishii and calling it an amazing half year
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Rarity posted:Yeah you know what? Nthing because
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Rarity posted:Yeah you know what? Yeah ngl I initially rolled my eyes at this but the more I reflect on this match the more I feel the need to Nth this. It was nothing. It was 40 minutes of loving nothing. It had a handful of things that amused me, yes, but that doesn't really make up for the bulk of the match just being a big waste of time.
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Yeah if they'd cut it down to around 25 minutes I'd feel a lot better about it but it felt like it went long for the sake of going long because it was Dominion and they felt like the show needed to run a certain length but instead it just left Naito and EVIL trying to fill time with nothing to do. Easily my least favourite New Japan main event since last year's Dominion.
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Oh Snapple! posted:Yeah ngl I initially rolled my eyes at this but the more I reflect on this match the more I feel the need to Nth this. A match that starts with the babyface pounding his former friend's face into a table, has a table spot so good that the ref warning off the heel causes the crowd to explode in applause, featurs two sets of run ins and a reveal (on top of the usual big moves and near falls) apparently was "loving nothing." OK.
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MassRafTer posted:A match that starts with the babyface pounding his former friend's face into a table, has a table spot so good that the ref warning off the heel causes the crowd to explode in applause, featurs two sets of run ins and a reveal (on top of the usual big moves and near falls) apparently was "loving nothing." OK. maybe you should start counting off the things that happened and listing them on grappl to convince people it was a good match
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Rarity posted:Yeah if they'd cut it down to around 25 minutes I'd feel a lot better about it but it felt like it went long for the sake of going long because it was Dominion and they felt like the show needed to run a certain length but instead it just left Naito and EVIL trying to fill time with nothing to do. Easily my least favourite New Japan main event since last year's Dominion. I think you need to clarify this as "least favourite major show New Japan main event..." or I'm going to list a bunch of main events from New Beginning In USA & World Tag League (remember EVIL & Sanada vs Mikey Nicholls & Jeff Cobb? coz I sure don't)
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forkboy84 posted:I think you need to clarify this as "least favourite major show New Japan main event..." or I'm going to list a bunch of main events from New Beginning In USA & World Tag League (remember EVIL & Sanada vs Mikey Nicholls & Jeff Cobb? coz I sure don't) go for it no one is stopping you it's not like we dont just list off every WWE main event
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Lid posted:maybe you should start counting off the things that happened and listing them on grappl to convince people it was a good match When someone says "loving nothing" happened in a match and several big things happened in it it is a good thing to point them out. If people didn't like the match that's fine but they should be honest with themselves why they didn't like the match that got so heated it caused the crowd to break the rules and boo.
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It wasn't a very good match imo, but it did its job and for loving sure wasn't on the level of the worst stinkers we've seen this year. So I guess this is just goon hyperbole bandwagoning at work again.
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MassRafTer posted:A match that starts with the babyface pounding his former friend's face into a table, has a table spot so good that the ref warning off the heel causes the crowd to explode in applause, featurs two sets of run ins and a reveal (on top of the usual big moves and near falls) apparently was "loving nothing." OK. It was a boring, overlong match whose small amount of high points (one of which involved two people not even in the drat match) did nothing to make up for the loving snooze-worthy timesink that made up a good chunk of it.
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Also if a match is so unambiguously dogshit as to deserve a WMOTY you shouldn't have to sleep on the issue to come to that conclusion.
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forkboy84 posted:I think you need to clarify this as "least favourite major show New Japan main event..." or I'm going to list a bunch of main events from New Beginning In USA & World Tag League (remember EVIL & Sanada vs Mikey Nicholls & Jeff Cobb? coz I sure don't) Well sure, if you're going to name the two New Japan tours I make a point of skipping then fine but the key point there is I didn't see them. MassRafTer posted:When someone says "loving nothing" happened in a match and several big things happened in it it is a good thing to point them out. If people didn't like the match that's fine but they should be honest with themselves why they didn't like the match that got so heated it caused the crowd to break the rules and boo. 2 minutes of excitement in a 40 minute match does not make a good match
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Rarity posted:Well sure, if you're going to name the two New Japan tours I make a point of skipping then fine but the key point there is I didn't see them. If people want to make that argument that is up to them, I just don't like to see people defaming a perfectly good match inaccurately. But if this was the worst main event since the Jericho/Okada match last year it was pretty good as that match was also really good.
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Ah yes, the match so good that people started throwing garbage in the ring I am joking, I’m well aware the crowd just wasn’t happy with how the postmatch went. I was there
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Cerebral Bore posted:Also if a match is so unambiguously dogshit as to deserve a WMOTY you shouldn't have to sleep on the issue to come to that conclusion. Some really weird stuff going on ITT. Why not? Are you not allowed to process a piece of media you saw any further than in the immediate moments after it happened? I personally found the match pretty boring and funny in a stupid way when it was happening, but not awful. Afterwards when I thought about it, its result and its possible ramifications more, I started to really dislike everything about it. People have certain expectations of the main event of NJPW’s second-most important show. To some, those expectations were not met, and because it was a very unusual match coming from NJPW, they needed time to think if those expectations were met or not, or if it was weird enough to make those expectations irrelevant. This is nothing new. It happens when you consume media. I’m sure you’ve seen/heard/read something you wasn’t sure you what you thought about it and then only later came to the conclusion that you disliked or liked it a lot more than what your initial reaction was. People are also capable of changing their opinions on things later down the line, sounds crazy but it’s true a cyborg mug fucked around with this message at 22:00 on Jul 13, 2020 |
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This is our stupid meaningless list and we get democratically choose what's on it Like, we ain't having plaques made and mailed out to AJ Styles so who gives a gently caress if we put something on the WMOTY list
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extradite THIS! posted:Some really weird stuff going on ITT. Why not? Are you not allowed to process a piece of media you saw any further than in the immediate moments after it happened? Because if a match in itself is going to be a contender for literally the worst one of the entire year there should be something so obviously and offensively bad about it that it shouldn't take any great amount of thought to identify. This is not the thread for the best and worst booking decisions of the year, after all. Neodoomium posted:This is our stupid meaningless list and we get democratically choose what's on it People are also allowed to disagree with your opinion, hth.
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We nominate a lot of things so a plaque would be hard to do but I should print up a big banner of the OP and send it to AJ Styles and no one else.
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Cerebral Bore posted:Because if a match in itself is going to be a contender for literally the worst one of the entire year there should be something so obviously and offensively bad about it that it shouldn't take any great amount of thought to identify. This is not the thread for the best and worst booking decisions of the year, after all. I agree Remove Edge/Orton WM immediately.
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The match was very good
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There were 25 fouls and the crowd didn't break the rules about making noise enough
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MOTYC 5th July 2AW Launching Business 1st Anniversary GRAND SLAM TKP Garden City, Chiba 2AW Openweight Title Yuji Okabayashi vs Ayato Yoshida If you watch New Japan you should remember Yoshida from his short but fun run there from 2018 to 2019, including a fun Young Lion tag team with Shota Umino. Well, that fell apart when TAKA Michinoku's personal life caused step down from K-Dojo, which rebranded itself as 2AW. But don't worry for him, he's turned up on some Big Japan shows, he's obviously worked regularly for 2AW & now he is a featured part of the All Japan stable JIN. Anyway, here he is the homegrown lad challenging the veteran outsider for the company's title. Okabayashi is a big beefy fella from the Big Japan Strong division, he's one half of one of the greatest tag teams in the world today, Strong BJ with Daisuke Sekimoto. That's all you really need to know. Well, that & it's a very good wrestling match featuring big meaty chops & lariats. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nRikmONpuE
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forkboy84 posted:MOTYC 2nd
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