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Sash! posted:Boothby was good exactly once. It's not unheard of. The recently retired director of the University of Wisconsin marching band, Mike Leckrone, was famous for remembering every student he ever had in his band, where they were from, what they majored in, and what instrument they played. And he held that post for fifty years.
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Next season on Star Trek: Picard we learn that Boothby was secretly sexually abusing the younger cadets for decades and it was an open secret on campus the whole time. Picard must confront his inner demons while uncovering the conspiracy, Rios traps himself inside the ship's holodeck with dozens of copies of himself until he experiences ego death.
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Tighclops posted:Next season on Star Trek: Picard we learn that Boothby was secretly sexually abusing the younger cadets for decades and it was an open secret on campus the whole time. Picard must confront his inner demons while uncovering the conspiracy, Rios traps himself inside the ship's holodeck with dozens of copies of himself until he experiences ego death. He was a ploy by 8472 all this time They have infiltrated the Starfleet and Zhat Vash and Oui Timbuktu and their mission is to destroy all silicon based people before they will enter the fluidic space and conquer 8472, as it was foretold aeons ago!
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Jul 13, 2020 22:10
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bull3964 posted:It looks like VHS because it was (well, not VHS, commercial analog video tape, probably some form of beta). If nothing else, it'd be awesome to get the unused cuts as well. I bet there's tons of material in there that the INtakes Youtube channel could use. Too bad CBS would never release that stuff in a million years. Even if it's not HD, I'd kill for DS9 (and yes, Voyager too) in at least as good quality as my MASH dvds.
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Jul 13, 2020 22:13
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What’s really gonna gently caress remasters starting soon is the early digital stuff that was filmed at 1080p and that’s it. 4-8k for those is just not gonna be possible outside of upscaling. Hell, I think even Discovery is only filmed at 2k.
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How high definition does stuff really need to be, though? I feel like 1080p is fine.
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HD DAD posted:Hell, I think even Discovery is only filmed at 2k. Both Discovery and Picard shoot on Arri Alexa Minis, which can shoot in 4K UHD, but I don't know for sure which mode they use during the production.
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Timby posted:Both Discovery and Picard shoot on Arri Alexa Minis, which can shoot in 4K UHD, but I don't know for sure which mode they use during the production. There’s a production shot out there which indeed shows the Arri Alexas, but the info on the display shows they’re shooting at 2k, IIRC.
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Drink-Mix Man posted:How high definition does stuff really need to be, though? I feel like 1080p is fine. Like, I'd be fine with 1080p DS9 for the rest of my days. Watching Duet one last time while I'm hooked up to my DeathPod, surrounded by visitors in the hospice constantly streaming their AR entertainment on their cybereyes while trying not to pay attention to their surroundings.
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Timby posted:It's not unheard of. The recently retired director of the University of Wisconsin marching band, Mike Leckrone, was famous for remembering every student he ever had in his band, where they were from, what they majored in, and what instrument they played. And he held that post for fifty years. Our freshman class was only like 600 kids but the shuttle driver from campus to the local mall knew every single one to this level of detail, it was pretty amazing
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EimiYoshikawa posted:Like, I'd be fine with 1080p DS9 for the rest of my days. I’d happily settle for just 720p. The existing version has to be 360p in some episodes.
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HD DAD posted:What’s really gonna gently caress remasters starting soon is the early digital stuff that was filmed at 1080p and that’s it. 4-8k for those is just not gonna be possible outside of upscaling. Most major motion pictures from 2000 even through today only have a 2k DI. That's why the majority of 4k releases are upscaled. That's fine through, the real star of the UHD show is HDR and WCG.
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AntherUslessPoster posted:He was a ploy by 8472 all this time The angry synthetic tentacles invade our reality only to discover everyone's moved to fluidic space
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tentacles all swingin' like a dad's arm in the back seat while driving, "You kids quit advancing AI tech!"
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I’d happily settle for just 720p. The existing version has to be 360p in some episodes. Everything would have been finished at 720x480i for NTSC resolution.
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Alright, first dud of the DS9 "re"watch. Move Along Home is very bad. I feel like every 90s episode had the "we're all trapped in a game" episode, from X-Files to Baywatch Nights. And they were all the exact shade of terrible and inert. But to my surprise, Quark was still great in it. Why is Quark growing on me? How do I like Quark so much? This wasn't supposed to happen. You all should have warned me  e: I think the reason Jake works so well is that unlike Wesley, we're not supposed to relate to him as a kid—we're supposed to relate to Sisko as a father. It makes the typical kid-in-adult-show so much more tolerable. feedmyleg fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Jul 14, 2020 |
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I mean yeah Quark is a frontrunner for the best character in the entire series lmfao. The second any "evil" ST species is allowed to become nuanced and gets written by someone who gives a poo poo about them they immediately become great.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:I mean yeah Quark is a frontrunner for the best character in the entire series lmfao. The second any "evil" ST species is allowed to become nuanced and gets written by someone who gives a poo poo about them they immediately become great. Quark's rants in The Dogs of War, near the end of DS9, are just so delicious.
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If Move Along Home was a TNG episode instead of a DS9 episode, it would be largely forgotten like a lot of mediocre TNG episodes are and not constantly pointed out as an egregiously bad episode. Instead, because it's DS9, it stands out a lot more.
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Apparently Bruce Botnick let slip he's working on a new Atmos mix for Star Trek: TMP. That lines up with rumors that the Director's Cut is being worked on for a UHD release. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnpacAuKnwc&t=151s He talks about how much he loves working with Atmos and he unwrapped the 16 track audio masters for TMP recently. bull3964 fucked around with this message at 02:56 on Jul 14, 2020 |
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I'm watching the fan film made by that one guy that's like 3 hours long and he does all the voices, you may have seen clips of. It is incredibly boring. Basically everything I would ever want in a star trek
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Move Along Home is like root beer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VhSm6G7cVk&t=105s
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Pakled posted:If Move Along Home was a TNG episode instead of a DS9 episode, it would be largely forgotten like a lot of mediocre TNG episodes are and not constantly pointed out as an egregiously bad episode. Instead, because it's DS9, it stands out a lot more. And if it were a TOS episode, it would be one of the most beloved episodes in trek canon.
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bull3964 posted:Apparently Bruce Botnick let slip he's working on a new Atmos mix for Star Trek: TMP. That lines up with rumors that the Director's Cut is being worked on for a UHD release.
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FlamingLiberal posted:I'm not watching through TMP again, you can't make me You cannot call yourself a Star Trek fan if the thought of seeing the full reveal of the Connie refit in glorious 4k with HDR while Goldsmith's theme blares out of 7 channels including overhead doesn't move something in you.
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mllaneza posted:And if it were a TOS episode, it would be one of the most beloved episodes in trek canon. people are hard on DS9 episodes that are basically TOS episodes. I don't think "Distant Voices" is that bad either. that'd be a completely ok TOS episode and a completely normal TNG episode.
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Distant Voices is fine in concept, it’s just underwritten. The plot is about facets of Bashir’s psyche getting “killed off”, but the facets are too poorly characterized and quickly killed and Bashir himself doesn’t really change as this happens. He just gets makeup-aged (not well but whatever). I think the idea of DS9 as mindscape is awesome, and the Bashir-Garak interplay is great as usual. Like a lot of Menosky episodes it’s just got more potential than it follows through on. Which is also true of like half of TOS
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skasion posted:Distant Voices is fine in concept, it’s just underwritten. The plot is about facets of Bashir’s psyche getting “killed off”, but the facets are too poorly characterized and quickly killed and Bashir himself doesn’t really change as this happens. He just gets makeup-aged (not well but whatever). I think the idea of DS9 as mindscape is awesome, and the Bashir-Garak interplay is great as usual. Like a lot of Menosky episodes it’s just got more potential than it follows through on. Which is also true of like half of TOS maybe I like it because I mentally use it to dismiss the stupid augment storyline and the associated "worst characters in star trek", the Jack pack 
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Pick posted:maybe I like it because I mentally use it to dismiss the stupid augment storyline and the associated "worst characters in star trek", the Jack pack Yeah I’ve been surprised by how much I’m enjoying Bashir episodes so far on this rewatch (about to finish season 3). I guess the augment and S31 stuff left bad tastes in my mouth
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The Jack Pack are cool Bashir creeping on the quiet one is very uncool though
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skasion posted:Yeah I’ve been surprised by how much I’m enjoying Bashir episodes so far on this rewatch (about to finish season 3). I guess the augment and S31 stuff left bad tastes in my mouth Bashir's not as bad as I think he was perceived at the time. I do think he sort of falls apart post-augment. I think his role as "the idealistic one" wasn't as kewl in the 90s but I find it refreshing today.
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Hm I don’t know I’m getting bored of this young naïf being a generally well meaning and fun guy. what if he had computer brain and calculated the odds like C-3PO. No wait. What if he were secret agent man
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skasion posted:Yeah I’ve been surprised by how much I’m enjoying Bashir episodes so far on this rewatch (about to finish season 3). I guess the augment and S31 stuff left bad tastes in my mouth I feel like there is this idea of the sort of dashing and somewhat roguish Star Trek character who can do no wrong, but it doesn't come to fruition until Bashir. Like the best TOS episodes end with Kirk being sad and conflicted. Riker's a dork. Paris is a gently caress up--although I think I'm forcing the archetype a bit with him. But Bashir genuinely is the sexy god man that I think people imagine Kirk being depicted as. Not that he doesn't have some good episodes ("The Quickening'), but often he's much more fun when he's played as a bit of a goof and a comedy partner with Miles than the handsome hero of the show. It just doesn't work when a holographic lounge singer is more compelling. My wife and I were also bitter of how much time season six and seven devotes to him being forlorn over Dax to the point that she was rooting for Ezri to end up with Quark. Also, I really just wish Section 31 was more of a Sisko plotline. Like Sisko acts like this weird neutral dad about it all. I don't want Bashir pouting about morals. I want Sisko somehow selling Section 31 out to the Orion Syndicate or some poo poo.
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skasion posted:Hm I don’t know I’m getting bored of this young naïf being a generally well meaning and fun guy. what if he had computer brain and calculated the odds like C-3PO. No wait. What if he were secret agent man 
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Timeless Appeal posted:My wife and I were also bitter of how much time season six and seven devotes to him being forlorn over Dax to the point that she was rooting for Ezri to end up with Quark. I genuinely think that would have been a really good capstone to both Ezri and especially Quark's arcs. Quark has a great scene where he proves he's the only one who "gets" that Ezri Dax is a new person, and he respected the poo poo out of Jadzia for scamming the crap out of him at tongo but yet never really came onto her. I think if Ezri were the initiator it would have been a great "Ezri gets with a guy who gets who/what she is" and "Quark ends up with an intimidating woman who has given him a lot to chew about wrt: respecting women". Ezri has the potential to have the same thrust as Grilka and Pel all in one go. I actually like what I think is the initially-conceived Bashir/Jadzia arc, where at first he's just horny for her but grows to befriend her as a person and understand her as an actual identity, but once she dies and becomes Ezri I really feel like the potential of that arc is gone and it's creepy to try to recapture it with Ezri. Really creepy. Because it's like a complete 180 from what the point would have been if he ended up with Jadzia at that point!
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We're told up top that trill symbiotes don't tend to befriend their old host's friends, but then the show just treats them as interchangeable. It's weird. It's a lot like how they made the decision that Ezri would be a softer, more vulnerable person than Jadzia, but them since this is the 90s, the show doesn't really know what to do to make a female character strong other than making her tough and aggressive, just like it's still not sure what to do with a therapist. Nullsmack posted:Move Along Home is like root beer I like Quark's root beer speech, but I don't feel like it's a good description of root beer. And like, Garak, you just drank a glass of maple syrup.
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SlothfulCobra posted:We're told up top that trill symbiotes don't tend to befriend their old host's friends, but then the show just treats them as interchangeable. It's weird. It's worse than that, they came up with this deadly serious Trill reassociation taboo and then threw it in the garbage with Ezri, she just dives right back into the beating heart of her last life and picks up where she left off like it ain't no thang. According to "Rejoined" both of them should be exiles from Trill society with no hope for the Dax symbiont to ever be passed on. Dead slug squirmin', we got a dead slug squirmin' here.
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