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I actually loved how out there it was to reveal that robots and mundane animals can have a Persona, in a "not everything need to be explained" way.
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ApplesandOranges posted:Sae: okay, fine. So you just read a book or something that night, right?
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Jul 13, 2020 09:40
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NikkolasKing posted:I wouldn't object to P6 having an animal party member again, though. 
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Jul 13, 2020 10:40
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NikkolasKing posted:I wouldn't object to P6 having an animal party member again, though. A cat and a dog, with Caped Avenger and World War I Flying Ace as personas.
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Jul 13, 2020 10:47
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persona/ peanuts cross over is S tier
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Jul 13, 2020 10:52
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Even though the fox in Persona 4 never joins you as a party member, it still had to have a Persona in order to go into the TV world, right?
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Jul 13, 2020 15:38
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Mraagvpeine posted:Even though the fox in Persona 4 never joins you as a party member, it still had to have a Persona in order to go into the TV world, right? I wouldn't think so? Cause the main cast are put into the TV before they awaken their personas right? I guess maybe that means that the fox has the potential to awaken a persona? Honestly I've never been clear on how all the TV stuff works. Like why is it only MC, Namatame, and Adachi that can pull other people into the TV?
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Jul 13, 2020 15:45
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Elvis_Maximus posted:I wouldn't think so? Cause the main cast are put into the TV before they awaken their personas right?
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Jul 13, 2020 15:57
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No Wave posted:They got the magic power from the gas station attendant, I think she shook hands with all three of them. I guess that's true, and the gas station attendant is a god or something like that. But Naoto, after her awakening, mentions being able to go into the TV now right? So is it just anyone with a persona can go in? Could they pull someone in who's not awakened, or is that just the aforementioned people that have those abilities? It doesn't really matter to the plot I don't think, but I've always wondered what exactly the rules are around that.
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Jul 13, 2020 17:17
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Elvis_Maximus posted:I guess that's true, and the gas station attendant is a god or something like that. But Naoto, after her awakening, mentions being able to go into the TV now right? So is it just anyone with a persona can go in? Could they pull someone in who's not awakened, or is that just the aforementioned people that have those abilities? yes, they can access the tv by themselves once they have a persona, Izanami wanted to something something reach out to the truth so she flicked three ears in the boonies to see what would happen, all of which was later reactive to the murders she caused by giving them to Adachi, and I'd guess that access is conditional on wanting to do that
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Jul 13, 2020 17:21
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Elvis_Maximus posted:I guess that's true, and the gas station attendant is a god or something like that. But Naoto, after her awakening, mentions being able to go into the TV now right? So is it just anyone with a persona can go in? Could they pull someone in who's not awakened, or is that just the aforementioned people that have those abilities?
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Jul 13, 2020 17:25
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Going back to my original thought, that fox definitely has a Persona, otherwise how could it go into the TV world on its own?
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Jul 13, 2020 18:16
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Mraagvpeine posted:Going back to my original thought, that fox definitely has a Persona, otherwise how could it go into the TV world on its own? Now, it absolutely had the potential, but it might not've actually had one yet.
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Jul 13, 2020 18:20
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It's not going into the TV World on its own, it is explicitly meeting up with you beforehand. It's hitching a ride with everyone else.
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Jul 13, 2020 18:40
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The main prerequisite of a persona is a self-aware consciousness (a.k.a. baseline sentience) that can tap into the collective unconsciousness.
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Jul 13, 2020 18:43
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Foxes are supposed to be messengers of Inari, so given what made the tv world, I'm not overly surprised a fox can just go there as it pleases
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https://twitter.com/s666_1003/status/1282474427901329408
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Jul 13, 2020 19:14
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I would be down for a Reverend Hee-Ho in a future title.
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Jul 13, 2020 20:00
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TMS #FE, still good on the Switch. Better, I'd say, since the battle loading is instant. Anyone happen to have on hand a list of all the battle barks' translations? I know they're all boring stuff like "Let's go, Itsuki!" "Yes!" but I need to know.
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Jul 14, 2020 04:54
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TIL Dia is aid backwards  .
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Jul 14, 2020 11:01
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It's a nice double meaning but it's more likely to be based off the word in Greek (which means heavenly/divine).
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jimmydalad posted:TIL Dia is aid backwards gonna blow your minds when you see what a diarama is also today i learned how to spell diorama, an actual word which I have used/typed out approximately 1/1000th as much as diarama the healing spell
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Zvahl posted:gonna blow your minds when you see what a diarama is Am a raid? A mar aid?
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Jul 14, 2020 12:13
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A Mara ID
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Artelier posted:Am a raid? A Mara ID, my god..  How deep does this go
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Jul 14, 2020 12:24
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Elvis_Maximus posted:A Mara ID, my god.. 
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Jul 14, 2020 12:33
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Elvis_Maximus posted:A Mara ID, my god.. I had Mara in my lineup in my original P5 run for way too long because it had good stats  I wanna recommend P5 to my niece because I think she'd like the aesthetic, but then you remember some of the wild poo poo from SMT like that guy. Is... is recommending Persona to normal people like the videogames equivalent of telling somebody to watch Madoka?
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Jul 14, 2020 12:34
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deadly_pudding posted:I had Mara in my lineup in my original P5 run for way too long because it had good stats I think Persona is fine for recommendations. It’s mainstream enough having representation in Smash bros and it’s not too far removed from typical JRPG nonsense. If you wanted to go Madoka, you could recommend Nocture or Digital Devil Saga. Honestly, most SMT PS2 games that weren’t Persona we’re pretty disturbing.
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deadly_pudding posted:I had Mara in my lineup in my original P5 run for way too long because it had good stats Tbh I'd sooner not rec persona because of the homophobia than the dick demon
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Jul 14, 2020 12:45
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That business aside, Joker canonically just spacing out IRL when he goes to the Velvet room is *almost* as good as Joker canonically telling Sae about how brave he was for eating all those giant hamburgers, because you get exactly moments like Joker goes slack-jawed for 5 minutes in the Mementos lobby, then blinks back awake. Ryuji: Hey, alright. He always has a cool new move after he does that. C'mon, man, whatcha got for us. Joker: Check this out  Almost Everybody: *horrified* Yusuke: *furiously sketching*
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I feel like recommending P5 is less like recommending Madoka to someone who doesn't know anime, and more like recommending Evangelion. There's not really bait-and-switches in terms of content, and they'll get most of it, but there's genre and social subtext that they won't be privvy to and it probably veers more mature in subject matter than they expect.
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Cleretic posted:I feel like recommending P5 is less like recommending Madoka to someone who doesn't know anime, and more like recommending Evangelion. There's not really bait-and-switches in terms of content, and they'll get most of it, but there's genre and social subtext that they won't be privvy to and it probably veers more mature in subject matter than they expect. There is no social subtext anyone will miss from any persona game. They do don't know how to even spell the word Subtle.
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Persona is baby's first SMT game.
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Ryuji, in every cutscene with the team together: "Those drat CORRUPT ADULTS IN POWER! They don't care about THE WEAK AND THE POOR LIKE US. We have to CHANGE THEIR HEART before the RUIN SOCIETY COMPLETELY and make like EVEN HARDER FOR THE DOWNTRODDEN." Evil Adult Seen In Palace Whipping 1000 Imaginary Versions of Random Weak and Poor People: Yes i love TO ABUSE HUMANS SO MUCH and take their EFFORT AND HARD WORK FOR MY OWN PERSONAL GAIN. When I am done with them I DON'T CARE IF THEY LIVE OR DIE. They are OBJECTS TO ME."
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Clarste posted:Persona is baby's first SMT game. Ehhhh, the appeal is pretty different. SMT is a dungeon crawler where you have a handful of characters you barely talk to. I was thinking about it just the other day when a similar discussion was brought up elsewhere, somebody saying they'd recommend Nocturne to a Persona fan  You interact with Chiaki or Isamu something like 4-5 times all game and these interactions are also really spread out. Needless to say this is totally different from any Persona game. Even Strange Journey which does its best to give characterization and focus to Zelenin or Jimenez and build the bond with the Red Sprite crew is still pretty limited compared to Persona. I personally recommend SMTIV Apocalypse or Devil Survivor 1 or 2 for people who start with Persona and want try out SMT as they blend SMT ideas and themes with Persona's focus on relationships. Of course, somebody could still like both SMT and Persona, just for different reasons.But there's no guarantee if you find one appealing you'll like the other since the appeal i s wildly different. NikkolasKing fucked around with this message at 13:41 on Jul 14, 2020 |
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persona protags have too many friends smt protags have all fake friends
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And then the original SMT is "All my friends are dead".
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:There is no social subtext anyone will miss from any persona game. They do don't know how to even spell the word Subtle. You say that, but it wasn't long ago that we had to explain the basics of how lovely the Japanese court system is in this very thread. It's not that the game has anything that's tied up too hard in Japanese setting details or RPG tropes, though, it's more that without knowing those things there might be a lot of 'wait, back up, what' moments. Off the top of my head I'd imagine those moments around the court and legal system, about a dozen demons, some of Futaba's deal (although I think these days that's not so foreign a concept to people), some of Igor's character history, and maybe a little bit about Japanese high school. None of it's necessarily a must-know or something you won't pick up, but that's some of the places where it presumes knowledge that someone may not have.
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MonsieurChoc posted:And then the original SMT is "All my friends are dead". they're just off screen, laughing, lost beyond finding in the great cathedral
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MonsieurChoc posted:And then the original SMT is "All my friends are dead". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVwSZDXr5LU
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