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So I'm after watching Deconstruction of Falling Stars and I have one small question. When the Nazi propaganda guy made holograms of the crew for his video, why exactly did he make accurate representations of them if he just overrides their personalities to make them say or do what he wants to anyways? Especially when you consider that making an accurate hologram of Garibaldi led to a nuclear war.
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Jul 15, 2020 13:49
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That's the only ep I gave up on half way, iirc they made it in a hurry when they got the fifth season.
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Jul 15, 2020 13:51
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Eighties ZomCom posted:So I'm after watching Deconstruction of Falling Stars and I have one small question. When the Nazi propaganda guy made holograms of the crew for his video, why exactly did he make accurate representations of them if he just overrides their personalities to make them say or do what he wants to anyways? Especially when you consider that making an accurate hologram of Garibaldi led to a nuclear war. It's been a while since I watched it, but I don't remember if he says anything. It may have been part and parcel of the tech used that it just inherently makes them accurate physically and mentally as an integrated unit. It may have also been the case that they thought some could be persuaded. The real answer of course is that it makes for a good story.
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Jul 15, 2020 14:03
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Eighties ZomCom posted:So I'm after watching Deconstruction of Falling Stars and I have one small question. When the Nazi propaganda guy made holograms of the crew for his video, why exactly did he make accurate representations of them if he just overrides their personalities to make them say or do what he wants to anyways? Especially when you consider that making an accurate hologram of Garibaldi led to a nuclear war. The nazi guy needed to know what the command staff knew and how they would act in order to properly manipulate it for the official record and narrative. Garibaldi was just the narrative getting away from them.
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Jul 15, 2020 14:29
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He starts by loading reference personalities (accurate representations) just to make sure the system's working fully for when they're running the modified personalities, and then just never turns them off.
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Jul 15, 2020 14:39
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MonsieurChoc posted:Earlier that episode Sinclair is complaining that they got a raise of the military budget while the workers got nothing. I think I was putting these two lines together then. It wasn't explicit but it sure is implied.
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Jul 15, 2020 14:42
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Slamhound posted:Fox News has one of the most accurate and reliable fact checking departments in the business. The reason is that you have to know exactly what the truth is in order to tell the best untruths that fall just short of being lies so you can avoid being sued for libel and slander. Any coverage of that you can point to?
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Jul 15, 2020 14:43
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For what it’s worth I can barely make it out.
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Jul 15, 2020 16:29
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Meanwhile we've got Alpha Centauri posting in the Younger Races thread with a spoiler avatar/text. They've already seen some of that scene, IIRC, but it's still kinda rude given his text adds context they're lacking.
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Jul 15, 2020 16:58
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TraderStav posted:For what it’s worth I can barely make it out. Polaron posted:Meanwhile we've got Alpha Centauri posting in the Younger Races thread with a spoiler avatar/text. They've already seen some of that scene, IIRC, but it's still kinda rude given his text adds context they're lacking. We're in a time warp/loop. I saw the comment on discord and for some stupid reason replied here.
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Jul 15, 2020 17:28
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TraderStav posted:We're in a time warp/loop. I saw the comment on discord and for some stupid reason replied here. I was wondering about that. Not the one.
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Jul 15, 2020 17:38
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CainFortea posted:I was wondering about that. Not the one. Nobody listens to Stavros.
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Jul 15, 2020 17:42
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TraderStav posted:We're in a time warp/loop. I saw the comment on discord and for some stupid reason replied here. I'm not even in the Discord. Am I? 
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Jul 15, 2020 17:46
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Jul 15, 2020 17:55
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Polaron posted:I'm not even in the Discord. I made a comment on discord. Though I should let you have your psyduck headache for not being on discord!
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Jul 15, 2020 17:56
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It’s the hair. Understandable mistake.
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Jul 15, 2020 18:53
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I didn't notice it because I almost never look at the avatars of posters. So maybe the blind watchers didn't see it, either. One can only hope. The image itself is also not that revealing, considering it's shown in Londo's prophetic dream. The text on the other hand is just not okay.
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Jul 15, 2020 18:57
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That feels like something JMS would've hinted at. Even if you know it's coming, there are a lot of questions about what happens between now and then. It should be avoided, but it's not the worst thing to see.
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Jul 15, 2020 19:10
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Legally, he is.
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Jul 15, 2020 19:57
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Is "The Gathering" not on amazon prime at all, even for purchase? I sure can't find it.
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Jul 15, 2020 22:09
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It's Conaway, not Conway. Show some respect for the dead. 
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Jul 15, 2020 22:27
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abrosheen posted:Is "The Gathering" not on amazon prime at all, even for purchase? I sure can't find it. Scroll down to the bottom of season 1.
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Jul 15, 2020 22:37
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Seeing the newbie thread got to Confessions and Lamentations, when is it that the series outright says the Shadows are attacking people who they feel wronged them? I've always felt the Markab plague was punishment for their ambassador being the only person to talk about the Shadows in one of the early S2 episodes (The Long Dark, I think).
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Jul 15, 2020 23:59
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I wonder if that would've come up in Crusade. Definitely seems like the bioweapon that was aimed at Earth.
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Jul 16, 2020 00:00
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Zaroff posted:Seeing the newbie thread got to Confessions and Lamentations, when is it that the series outright says the Shadows are attacking people who they feel wronged them?  I never thought about that!
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Jul 16, 2020 00:03
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Zaroff posted:Seeing the newbie thread got to Confessions and Lamentations, when is it that the series outright says the Shadows are attacking people who they feel wronged them? No, that's explicitly contradicted by the text of 2X18. This isn't the first go-around that the Markab had with the Drafa plague, but the first time was before they were spacefaring IIRC and they confined it to a single island on their homeworld.
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Jul 16, 2020 00:23
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From IMDB's bio of Stephen Furst:quote:Never had to read for the part of "Vir" in Babylon 5 (1993). When he went to the audition, he saw that the other actors had their hair done in the Centauri crest, while he didn't. A trip to the bathroom to raid the soap dispenser and plaster his hair up ended disastrously with his hair askew and tears running down his face where the soap had gotten in his eyes. When he was called in, he entered apologizing profusely in run-on sentences for his appearance, whereupon the creator and producers looked at each other and said, "Oh my God! It's Vir!" He asked if they wanted him to read and they said no, he had the part.
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Jul 16, 2020 02:15
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That owns
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Jul 16, 2020 02:16
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If you check YouTube, there are at least two con videos where either Furst or Jurasik tell that story.
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Jul 16, 2020 03:05
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Oberndorf posted:If you check YouTube, there are at least two con videos where either Furst or Jurasik tell that story. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTWg7n6AANQ at around 18 minutes.
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Jul 16, 2020 04:12
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Oof, TheAardvarks reply about "Divided Loyalties" "I will be interested to see what more we get out of Talia. It doesn't seem like she'll be returning as a good guy, but there's a lot of psi-corps to cover and we still have her secret TK abilities to worry about."
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Jul 16, 2020 16:31
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DrBouvenstein posted:Oof, TheAardvarks reply about "Divided Loyalties" Oof, ultrafilter's reply in which he demonstrates exactly WHY we shut the gently caress up in the Blind Thread. Lyta doesn't have her gills until after she's been to the Vorlon homeworld, which happens in between this episode and Passing Through Gethsemane in S3.
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Jul 16, 2020 16:48
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Ahem. Everyone shut the gently caress up in the younger races thread please. Thank you for your time.
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Jul 16, 2020 16:48
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Edited that out.
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Jul 16, 2020 16:50
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This is why you gotta kick all the older civilizations out beyond the Rim.
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Jul 16, 2020 16:51
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Midjack posted:“Wannabe manipulative jerkwads who aren’t as slick as they think they are having a laugh at the expense of people who haven’t been around as long” is an unfortunately accurate characterization of where this seems to be going. ultrafilter posted:Edited that out.
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Jul 16, 2020 16:53
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ultrafilter posted:Edited that out. Nothing plot relevant in the spoiler thread! It's not hard!
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Jul 16, 2020 17:34
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DrBouvenstein posted:Oof, TheAardvarks reply about "Divided Loyalties" 
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TheAardvark posted:S2E20 - The Long, Twilight Struggle I'm pretty sure we all thought this back in the day. 
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